My Childhood Friend the Vampire - Ch. 4

[kerrowe]

I guess the rice goes well with her gift?

 

[squerl]

@Tamerlane Bold of you to assume he ever has enough bodily fluids to piss with

 

[SeekingSolace]

goddamn she’s sooo blunt i love it

 

[BakedBanana]

nice

 

[Pandawanka]

A non-tropey interesting fmc in a romcom?????????

Fck me it's like finding diamonds in a salt mine

 

[BCS]

@Pandawanka "teasing cunt" is a trope.

 

[Pandawanka]

@BCS Really? Name some.

 

[Eplayer]

thanks for the chapter

 

[Plippity]

Him bringing a separate box of rice is really what makes this chapter

 

[Alrange]

kyuuuuu-tsuki!

 

[NaciremaMi]

How cute

 

[Kisato]

Liver tastes great so I wouldn't mind

 

[Rarez]

@Pandawanka @BCS

Trope: The Gadfly. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheGadfly
The Gadfly is a character who often says things that make fun of or provoke other people.

Maybe they have a hard time really expressing themselves. Or it could be they just like to watch others get annoyed, confused or angry at them. Or maybe the impolite behavior is a Secret Test of Character for the other party.

 

[Pandawanka]

@BCS @Rarez

I was thinking more along the lines of the typical Japanese female character archetype. Like Tsunderes, Kuuderes, derederes... etc. I'm not saying her personality isn't something we haven't seen before but it certainly isn't common.

 

[Rarez]

@Pandawanka

It isn't common because you're doing a checklist

ex.
1. Female Character
2.Japanese Media
3~.... FMC traits

The closest character that has the same trope and traits of the fmc is Takagi from Karakai Jōzu no Takagi-san

note 1: Tsundere, Kuudere, are the japanese names for said archetypes. The Archetypes or trope already existed in different cultures just under different names (Tsundere = "hard to get") or have no names at all

note 2: The earliest example (that we know of) of the Gadfly archetype is Socrates.

 

[Pandawanka]

@Rarez

Well yeah. If you leave the scope of japanese female personality archetypes the scope becomes too broad. It's like saying that sharks are common where you live but you're using the entire ocean as your point of reference.

I'm not talking about every archetype in existence - then obviously it would be something that most people have seen before.

 

[Rarez]

@Pandawanka

What are we arguing about?

what do you mean the scope becomes too broad?. It's the opposite.
The inclusion of a qualifier makes the number of hits lower thereby making it seem rarer.

Searching "gadfly" and "gadfly + japanese media + female" will still turn Gadfly archetype characters. the difference is one will pick all gadfly characters and the other do the same but will only include the picks that are female and found in japanese media thereby logically having less picks.

 

[Pandawanka]

@Rarez

I was arguing with BCS over this being a very common trope/personality archetype in Japanese media - which I said this FMC's archetype isn't that common while he is arguing the opposite. You quote the Gadfly to us, therefore making it seem like you're condoning his position by reinforcing that yes, this is an archetype and it is common based on the fact that you're quoting TV tropes.

I tell you that if you take the entire population as a sample size (western media, japanese media etc), then obviously there would be more than enough occurences to count this as a trope. You're arguing that since the sample size is bigger, then technically the percentage of actual occurences/sample size becomes smaller.

And now I'm telling you that I'm looking at absolute numbers - I'm not trying to delve into the bigger picture here with bigger sample sizes and etc. Look at the japanese audience/sample size here.

 

[Rarez]

@Pandawanka

I get it. GoalPost Shifting.

Pandawanka: Gadfly type characters are rare
BCS: No
Pandawanka: Name some.
Rarez: "Provides a list"
Pandawanka: No. Only Female Japanese Media

Pandawanka: I was thinking more along the lines of the typical Japanese female character archetype. Like Tsunderes, Kuuderes, derederes... etc. I'm not saying her personality isn't something we haven't seen before but it certainly isn't common.

btw. How would I know what were you thinking!?!

btw2: if you want examples look at the "Anime & Manga" section of the trope page. since that was your original question.

 

[Pandawanka]

@Rarez

Lol well my bad for assuming that we were speaking within a Japanese context on the comment section of a Japanese manga.