Ochinai Yogore wo Boku wa Nanto Yobeba Yokatta noka - Ch. 20

[shadowmasstitan]

where's the "I hate you"? here???

I was making funny of his poetry

Poem:
I love you
I hate you
I love you
I hate you

 

[tammylikesart]

I never said it was to process emotions. Are you okay? I said situation which can cause emotional responses. So you never reflect on your past actions? But you never addressed the problem with going fast. I was basically saying slow down and think. And if you can't see how this effects your mental stability. (going fast) then I feel sorry for you. And everyone that has to interact with you. 😬

It think the problem is that I'm still not sure what you mean by "going fast".

She already knows the situation. She knows he likes someone else, she knows what that means for her chances, and "I'm not giving up" doesn't mean she genuinely believes everything is fine. It can just mean she doesn't want to accept the conclusion yet.

Then the wind takes the charm away, losing it makes her stop resisting what she already knows, and she cries. That isn't necessarily "processing the situation too fast". The realization may have been there already; what changes quickly is her willingness to admit it to herself.

If by "slow down and think" you mean people shouldn't make major decisions impulsively while emotional, sure, I agree. But she isn't making some reckless decision here. She's crying after rejection. I don't see how the timing of that demonstrates poor mental stability.

You may want to slow down yourself before diagnosing strangers over a disagreement about a manga scene.

 

[NerimaShinjuku]

I wish Tsuzuri was the MC

 

[shadowmasstitan]

It think the problem is that I'm still not sure what you mean by "going fast".

She already knows the situation. She knows he likes someone else, she knows what that means for her chances, and "I'm not giving up" doesn't mean she genuinely believes everything is fine. It can just mean she doesn't want to accept the conclusion yet.

Then the wind takes the charm away, losing it makes her stop resisting what she already knows, and she cries. That isn't necessarily "processing the situation too fast". The realization may have been there already; what changes quickly is her willingness to admit it to herself.

If by "slow down and think" you mean people shouldn't make major decisions impulsively while emotional, sure, I agree. But she isn't making some reckless decision here. She's crying after rejection. I don't see how the timing of that demonstrates poor mental stability.

You may want to slow down yourself before diagnosing strangers over a disagreement about a manga scene.

Lol 😆 you completely over look her change of thought happened in less than an hour. I think you need to slow down because you are just word vomiting trying to prove me wrong. When it was my observational opinion on a situation. I didn't know I am not allowed to say my opinions on this matter. Lol 🤣 🤣 🤣 you " your words hurt me" reeeeeeee lol 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[tammylikesart]

Lol 😆 you completely over look her change of thought happened in less than an hour. I think you need to slow down because you are just word vomiting trying to prove me wrong. When it was my observational opinion on a situation. I didn't know I am not allowed to say my opinions on this matter. Lol 🤣 🤣 🤣 you " your words hurt me" reeeeeeee lol 🤣 🤣 🤣

You're allowed to have an opinion. I'm disagreeing with the claim that changing your mind within an hour means poor mental stability.

She already knew he loved someone else. Saying "I'm not giving up" and then crying shortly after doesn't mean she suddenly processed everything from scratch in an hour. That's not how people work.

And comparing that to being more likely to act on homicidal thoughts is a much bigger claim than "this scene felt too fast to me."

Also, calling disagreement "word vomiting" doesn't actually answer any of that.

 

[shadowmasstitan]

You're allowed to have an opinion. I'm disagreeing with the claim that changing your mind within an hour means poor mental stability.

She already knew he loved someone else. Saying "I'm not giving up" and then crying shortly after doesn't mean she suddenly processed everything from scratch in an hour. That's not how people work.

And comparing that to being more likely to act on homicidal thoughts is a much bigger claim than "this scene felt too fast to me."

Also, calling disagreement "word vomiting" doesn't actually answer any of that.

Lol 😆 your allowed your opinion. Next line and this is why your opinion is wrong. Lol 🤣 🤣 🤣 yep word vomiting. You don't even realize what you are saying. Please slow down. Lol 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[MarcoMook]

If you went from "I am not giving up" to depression in the span of an hour. Your mental stability is very bad. Because most deal with it slowly. then it hits usually a day or a week after. This is to help the mind to fully process the situation. If you process too fast means if a random thought such as offing someone just because they made you mad. You are more inclined to actually do it. Without seeing the results of such thoughts. If you off someone you go to jail, people see you as a monster, you turn on friends and family because you're afraid of them turning you in, and a lot more depending on your situation.

This is not hate. I am genuinely concerned for you. Please seek help and talk about it. The best way to stop yourself is to talk with others. If you can't talk at least stop yourself from any actions until you properly process the situation. I wish you the best 👍

I'm catching second-hand embarassment from this cringe-ass response. Update your medication, homes. This isn't even slippery slope or jumping the shark- I don't even know what this is.

She isn't depressed. She's sad. I don't care what you read on Bluesky or Reddit or whatever your horoscope told you, you're not a psychologist. "Putting on a brave face/front to keep up appearances in front of others" is also just as valid an explanation for her behavior. I'm giving you outs, just fuggin' take one.

 

[bigboygng]

he doesn't deserve her anyways, literally put zero effort in their friendship. this arc just sucks

True and the fact he was ready to let go so quick was such a pussy move I mean she literally supported him for years and he was just quick to let go like it was nothing. Good for her that she moved on quick

 

[bigboygng]

Her pov wasn't needed author but it was necessary for us. But please I hope he/she makes the plot or chapters better instead of this bs

 

[shadowmasstitan]

I'm catching second-hand embarassment from this cringe-ass response. Update your medication, homes. This isn't even slippery slope or jumping the shark- I don't even know what this is.

She isn't depressed. She's sad. I don't care what you read on Bluesky or Reddit or whatever your horoscope told you, you're not a psychologist. "Putting on a brave face/front to keep up appearances in front of others" is also just as valid an explanation for her behavior. I'm giving you outs, just fuggin' take one.

Lol 😆 so your a person that believes meds solve everything? No wonder you thought it was cringe because you are to scared to think about it. Which is sad lol 🤣 🤣 🤣 you never said I was wrong. And you are just putting labels on me. Ps I have never been on blue sky or reddit and I don't believe in the horoscope garbage. A way out? you literally just put fake labels on me. Assuming my life is absolutely hilarious. Lol 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[Raphael_gt]

Home girl did her service. Shot her shot knowing already since several chapters ago that she was already gonna lose and here we have the results. As I remember saying a while back, these are just kids discovering their first romantic feelings. Any ideas they might have about love and relationships are probably based on what they’ve seen in manga, books, tv or from their friends and family, etc. Our boy just barely started to understand his own romantic feelings towards the fmc until his childhood friend brought in her romantic chaos. His assumption that their friendship was ending is probably based on how confessions and rejections are often portrayed in all sorts of media. Somebody confesses, and they either get together or never speak again and move on with their lives. In the real world there can be more nuance to those kinds of relationships, especially ones that have been built over many years. His childhood friend wasn’t planning on abandoning him either, since as she said he’s not dating his crush yet so she still might have a chance to move into his heart in the chance that his feelings aren’t reciprocated.

The symbolism of her bookmark being carried away does reinforce to her though that her fantasy and his reality are very likely to not align. And as much as that sucks for her, that’s just the way that life works. Her moving away put one of the biggest possible obstacles in place for the development of romantic feelings in a teenager. It’s not often that young people develop romantic relationships built fully on long distance communication. The years she was gone didn’t allow her to see the day to day changes that the MC was going through and the methods that the FMC used to break down his barriers went completely against the way that she assumed he had to be approached. In the end, she still cares for him and we’ll see how their relationship continues to develop from here, depending on if the author continues to explore her character in any other ways.

Now that he’s taken the initiative to travel all the way out to see her for once (something that also shows how he’s grown; being able to stomach being stuck in close proximity to strangers and their germs for a long train ride) and that he’s starting to come to terms with his own romantic feelings, we are hopefully going to start to see some further development between him and the FMC. I don’t think that the childhood friend’s involvement was a waste of time, but rather I think she was used as a tool to show an alternate approach towards opening up the MC may have panned out. If she’d never moved away it’s likely that she would have continued to coddle him and maintain her safe distance from his barriers and he may never have started to open up in school the way that he has been thanks to the FMCs actions.

 

[Aspidochelon]

The only purpose of this whole thing is to show the boy's character depth and the origin of his issue, but it's unnecessary to use childhood female friend archetype

 

[sp0ffee]

Fuck sake... welp unlucky i guess

 

[123moh555]

This arc doesn't really make sense. MC and main girl's relationship is sailing smoothly without the need of rivals. Would have been way way better if the good childhood friend was not introduced. Dropping this shit cause author is a retard.

Even worse the childhood girl is actually a good person who just was too late for the race

 

[Kaito57]

Why was she here... ? Just to suffer... ?

CURSE YOU, AUTHOR !!!

 

[DrarRV]

Why not... both, both are good.

 

[CrowLee]

Al final del dia es tu corazón el que decidio, más allá de las palabras dichas en el fondo ella ya se rindio. Que niña mas valiente.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

This arc doesn't really make sense. MC and main girl's relationship is sailing smoothly without the need of rivals. Would have been way way better if the good childhood friend was not introduced.

Tsuzuri presents a good compare/contrast with Nishino
where Tsuzuri was willing to go along with his hang-ups and he'd never have grown with her but Nishino keeps challenging him to improve.

The issue was this was handled pretty badly, and part of it is other than slowly ripping Tsuzuri's heart from her chest and stomping on it for the past 4-5 chapters, almost a quarter of the series' run, they don't really explore the topic. Tsuzuri is just there as a "good girl" for MMC to reject to show his growing awareness of his feelings for Nishino... for that there was no good reason to introduce Tsuzuri or have her done this fucking dirty.

It would have been much better for MMC to have accepted her confession, have that made Nishino feel conflicted, and for Tsuzuri to realize that what she feels for MMC isn't romantic love.

Yeah, he's trash for many reasons. Like, where is the ambition? Not even considering a 3p outcome? Or even dating both girls? Perfect set up with Tsuzuri living far away!

Ah, a man of culture.
I mean, we've seen the number of guys who are able to keep juggling two families and have it be a total secret, surely he'd be able to pull off having Tsuzuri as his second wife.

 

[Alex_ZXZ]

All the time?

Hmm, his backstory kinda messed up

 

[ItzUhMe]

Honestly expected him to dive into the water to go and save that, maybe a change of heart or something