Ohitorisama ni wa Naremashita no de. Konyakusha Houchi-chuu! - Ch. 12 - Past Self and Current Self

[Eclipse616]

I want the new guy to fall in love with her and then she beats him out for the position without giving him a thought. No interest at all. She's becoming an exchange student and getting gainfully employed come hell or high water, dammit!

I relate to Nicole too much. I had to fight with the government since September to give me the funding for trade school (very much 'men's work', I'm going to be a welder-fitter) and I'm just starting June 9th. If I had to throw my progress away from some dickbag I'd be pissed.

 

[Niviik]

Honestly, the princess's plan to use Nicole's studies as a reason to have her spent a bit more time with Keios wasn't bad. Nicole turns her down because it would be unfair to other students is a good reason that makes sense with her personality. The reason why the classmates dont want her to spend times with Keios was stupid and infuriating. They are mad at him because he neglected her for years, now he wants to be with her more but their claim is "We can't let this man get too close to a lady." They are litterally treating him as if he raped her regularly during years but it is the opposite. It doesn't make sense.

Nicole's character developpement until now has been that she is fine being alone. But the next logical step of her character developpement would be for her to make friends. The classmates are protecting her, but she is still going to town, shopping, to the theater,... alone. If they were friends, they would spend time with her out of school. Human are sociable creatures, so she needs to bond with other people eventually.

Keios needs to take a real interest in her and stop hoping for her to be interested in him. If he wants her to stay with him, he should start thinking about making efforts to stay with her. I think he still hasn't told her that he cared about her or that he loved her. Well, that would be hard to believe with his behaviour anyway...

For Claude... I think author is going to give us an asspull looking like "So he isn't a mysoginistic asshole, he believes in meritocracy but because his family is poor he needs the scholarship... blablabla..."

 

[Raeandra]

I feel like Liam's Guide. Keios' suffering revitalized me

 

[Georgeorat]

But why? Because he is new? Hot? He is ML 2.0 but arguably even worse because he is an actual misogynistic asshole multiple times, completely denying her development, future and dream.
A stranger with a wildly negative view on women that is completely offensive and contrarian to what her whole character has been about. Can't just explain that away.

Why should she ignore all her growth and allow him to speak, listen to anything he says/does and even question it afterwards when she doesn't with ML (she sadly already out of character did all that this chapter).

If she engages him any more literally all of her character development until now would be betrayed and moot.
Her character is more than able to distinct between men good and bad for her (e.g. the café guy and the foreign prince).

Because she ignores ML not because she believes he is an asshole, but because she believes it's something he doesn't want/need.
She is a dense idiot. Now with some sense of self worth, but still, a dense idiot.

 

[Georgeorat]

I want the new guy to fall in love with her and then she beats him out for the position without giving him a thought. No interest at all. She's becoming an exchange student and getting gainfully employed come hell or high water, dammit!

She most likely will, and she will not be aware of it. She won't have an interest, because she is incapable of having an interest.

On a side note, everyone here who thinks she has ever had any real feelings for Keios in the first place reads a different story from me, I think.

 

[Caribou31]

Thanks for your works.

I hope the author go to the direction were basil is the second Ml to be taught a lesson by Nicole!

 

[Caribou31]

She most likely will, and she will not be aware of it. She won't have an interest, because she is incapable of having an interest.

On a side note, everyone here who thinks she has ever had any real feelings for Keios in the first place reads a different story from me, I think.

If Nicole was unable to have interest, she would have continue to be passive. She is an active protagonist, finding a new passion(novel of an other country) and study language for it.

 

[VON_WA]

a bit confused here.. didn't she grow quite a bit these past some chapters? Why is she silently getting manhandled by a stranger playboy in broad daylight in public (literally 1 panel before shows another man chilling)?

Also, is the mean misogynist allowed the benefit of the doubt because he could be considered hotter than ML? Kinda weird of her considering her overall stance until just now. I really don't see why she would stay and engage him like this.

Ngl, the original second half has been quite a lot worse and out of character even with it being only 2 chapters in.

I think you're jumping the gun a bit with him. We know from chapter 11 that it's the common view in the country that "A young, unmarried women of a noble family working a job would be considered disgraceful" and from even earlier chapter that having no fiance after graduating is problematic. It is a misogynistic view, but it's not a him problem, it's just the common sense in that country. Still a rude person tho.

Because he's barely had any screen time, and so far he was rude to her at one meeting, as his competitor. Compared to Keios, who has been a neglectful moron for years.

Basile can show that he's not misogynistic to his core and was only a jerk at first glance. He could show that he has circumstances that led him to being a jerk. And most importantly, he could help her so much that it invalidates his jerk time. He's clearly being set up as someone who helps her find a conversation partner. That would more than make up for his poor behavior.

You know, technically Keios becomes the way he is because of "circumstances that led him to being (the way he is)" as we've seen from chapter 10.5.

I'm a little conflicted. On one hand, Keios is the way he is not because of malice, but because he's just a dum dum, so I can't abhor him. On the other hand, reading these "Women becoming strong and independent" always makes me think "yas girl slayy" (I know it's cringe, but it's perfect for the occasion). One that i really wanted the FMC to get away from the MMC was "What It Means To Be You". But it slowly seemed like it was heading towards reconciliation, so I dropped it.

 

[lenovoaxioo]

thanks
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[Elandriel]

Keios being a dingbat or not, I want all those people surrounding her and trying to separate them to fuck off as it's hampering his own efforts to overcome the mistakes of his past. They're fucking annoying.

 

[Mythicalmagi]

I think you're jumping the gun a bit with him. We know from chapter 11 that it's the common view in the country that "A young, unmarried women of a noble family working a job would be considered disgraceful" and from even earlier chapter that having no fiance after graduating is problematic. It is a misogynistic view, but it's not a him problem, it's just the common sense in that country. Still a rude person tho.

You know, technically Keios becomes the way he is because of "circumstances that led him to being (the way he is)" as we've seen from chapter 10.5.

I'm a little conflicted. On one hand, Keios is the way he is not because of malice, but because he's just a dum dum, so I can't abhor him. On the other hand, reading these "Women becoming strong and independent" always makes me think "yas girl slayy" (I know it's cringe, but it's perfect for the occasion). One that i really wanted the FMC to get away from the MMC was "What It Means To Be You". But it slowly seemed like it was heading towards reconciliation, so I dropped it.

I had dropped that one for the same reason. It was frustrating.

 

[hihighhullo]

Hmm, ik I said earlier that Keios has like pathetic himbo potential but damn the 1, 2 combo of his thoughts and the misogynistic supporting cast of the last few chapters makes him just annoying 🙂‍↔️

Should've known better than to invest in his unrealized wasted potential

Also wth, why is the possible new love interest like not an upgrade?

 

[hihighhullo]

Hmm, ik I said earlier that Keios has like pathetic himbo potential but damn the 1, 2 combo of his thoughts and the misogynistic supporting cast of the last few chapters makes him just annoying 🙂‍↔️

Should've known better than to invest in his unrealized wasted potential

Also wth, why is the possible new love interest like not an upgrade?

Also the more I read this frustrating story, the more angry I get with the adults. Like as much as Keios' dumb butt, neglectful actions and shitty mindset is his own fault, it's also the fault of all the unseen adults in his life that completely failed to educate him on this stuff.

Like as a noble he would have had an etiquette teacher no? Aids? Even his friends kinda deserve side eyes for having 0 observation skills to notice how their friend always spent their social events with the princess and EVERYONE around Nicole was snickering at her for being shunned. Like how was there literally nobody who taught him or the fucking princess these standard social practices?

I'm literally only reading this story for Nicole's passion for self-realization at this pt. So pls stop fucking showing me Keios' POV

 

[Rafalga]

lol what would have happened if this dude wasn't there? Story just hand waved it like its nothing if not straight up proving everyone right when they go "don't go alone without your fiancé/man". Nicole has zero self preservation

 

[spiffinn]

Maybe put brackets around the text when they're speaking the other language [like this?]

 

[moderateTrouble]

Interesting. Still has its hooks in me, Im quite curious to see how this goes since it's been handled surprisingly well so far..

 

[Kirin-kun]

Of course, there needed to be a rival...

Seriously, we're supposed to feel sorry for Keios, but I'm not really feeling it. I can only feel possessiveness from him, not love.

 

[HaxtonFale]

Agreed, I hope his growth will eventually lead to him just genuinely supporting Nicole but that's it.

 

[sweet-potato]

I was so excited to read the new chapters, but honestly, I'm disappointed. This Claude guy is just not it. Having "misogynist" as a character trait to be overcome is not that attractive and now people are pairing him with Nicole?! Can't say "it's their culture" as an excuse because Kaios' friends were pretty chill about it.
And why was Nicole such a pusho-over with this clown?!

 

[Another_Astartes]

Thats it. Ive had it. I don't want some new boy toy who’s secretly a softie. The old one clearly likes you he’s just retarded. Just once i want a story where two people work through their problems. This sucks. Dropped.