One Piece - Ch. 1105 - The Height Of Folly

[MangaDex]

 

[nomadicengi]

Any bets who or what is coming to the rescue?

 

[isoycrazy]

Any bets who or what is coming to the rescue?

The Giants of Eblaf or S.H. Grandfleet?

 

[Makenai]

I think its the revolutionaries.

 

[Iratana]

Yeah, I can only think of the revolutionaries, or the strawhat grandfleet being the ones who are approaching. At least assuming that the group in question are allies.

On another note, I'm not sure why Sanji left Vegapunk by himself in the first place, nor do I get why Saturn and Kizaru hadn't immediately killed him.

 

[isoycrazy]

On another note, I'm not sure why Sanji left Vegapunk by himself in the first place, nor do I get why Saturn and Kizaru hadn't immediately killed him.

Kizaru is conflicted over hurting a close friend on orders from on high.

Saturn's an evil man. To quote the Maestro Terry Pratchett, from Men at Arms

If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat. They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar. So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word."

 

[REMasher]

Ooooh, everything's coming together~

 

[Iratana]

Saturn's an evil man. To quote the Maestro Terry Pratchett, from Men at Arms

Honestly, that's an apt description.

 

[isoycrazy]

Honestly, that's an apt description.

Indeed. Pratchett further demonstrates that quote by

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having the heroic Carrot Ironfounderson run his sword through the bad guy and into the stone pillar behind him. And does it without aword.

I can only hope that when Luffy recovers, he does the same thing to Saturn.

 

[BitterButter]

oh hey, I just realized that the plot right now can more or less fit to the story of Heaven with Adam and Eve- or at least echo some aspects of it: Vegapunk created the replicas of Kuma(creation of man), and researched the history of the lost century (had a taste of the forbidden fruit of knowledge, and his fruit is the Nomi Nomi fruit).
Not to mention that Lilith was Adam's first wife (though not in the cannon hebrew text).
I realized that Kuma represents Jesus, but didn't connect the dots till this chapter lol.

 

[isoycrazy]

oh hey, I just realized that the plot right now can more or less fit to the story of Heaven with Adam and Eve- or at least echo some aspects of it: Vegapunk created the replicas of Kuma(creation of man), and researched the history of the lost century (had a taste of the forbidden fruit of knowledge, and his fruit is the Nomi Nomi fruit).
Not to mention that Lilith was Adam's first wife (though not in the cannon hebrew text).
I realized that Kuma represents Jesus, but didn't connect the dots till this chapter lol.

But in a reverse, Satan (Imu and the Elders) is trying to keep knowledge from humanity to allow his falsehoods rule the world, and the truth comes in part from Luffy's fruit.

So, I think Luffy is the Jesus figure. There are other martyrs Kuma could be referencing.

 

[BitterButter]

But in a reverse, Satan (Imu and the Elders) is trying to keep knowledge from humanity to allow his falsehoods rule the world, and the truth comes in part from Luffy's fruit.

So, I think Luffy is the Jesus figure. There are other martyrs Kuma could be referencing.

Hmm, Luffy possess the sun god's power (Nika).
The liberation of people seems to be more present with him, rather then the aspect of atoning for human's sins- something that Kuma with hes Paw Paw fruit has done (repelling the sickness, injuries, etc from the people, and taking them upon himself).

you got a point, with the elders trying to keep knowledge from humanity- but to me it seems like heaven is actually the entire world, and they 'banish' (kill, destroy etc), anyone who was tempted by knowledge.
It's also interesting that they don't particularly care about human's advancement, the status-quo is what they care about (which makes sense), which keeps their "heaven" perfectly in balance.
maybe.