by being rude or attempting to strong-arm you've actually inspired me to dig in my heels. [...] You would've had the last word and it wouldn't have escalated. But as it stands, I feel driven to challenge your hostility and assertion that I don't belong here.
You realize that lampshading one's immaturity does not justify it?
And since i was technically polite, yet in no way, shape or form courteous, there really wasn't any need on your part to write this long-winded explanation, other than to present yourself in a better light, or to maintain your mental self-image.
These discussions will always happen in fiction that deals with gender bending because many of us are trans
That is statistically untrue.
Also, kudos for trying to establish dubious credibility by bringing your "identity" into a conversation. Gotta get those brownie points any way you can, huh?
We will have discussions here and in other places, including many you frequent.
These discussions almost never happen when fiction in question has some degree of sophistication to it. "Bokura no hentai", which deals almost exclusively with that issue, has
one comment to it. As well as many others, more relevant works, some of which i already pointed out.
And that was my entire point.
You people always try to weasel your way into relevance by starting "the talk" in reference to extremely light, or in worst case scenarios fetish fueled works, when targeted demographics doesn't give two shits about your "social issues".
We're here, we'll always be here and you're just going to have to get used to us existing and having opinions. If that's a problem for you, that's on you mate.
Nice! Now you're casually trying to paint me as a bigot, without any proof for that being the case in what i originally wrote. That's oh-so-typical, that i really can't get angry about it anymore. After you've seen it first five hundred times, it just doesn't have the same sting to it, you know?
...but it's still pathetic and weak.
Also, it vaguely sounds like a start of a pamphlet, which is in its own way amusing.
It is precisely your problem, just by the sheer power of numbers. Not mine.
Anyways, in regards to what I was posting here, the gender identity themes were kind of more on the side anyway. My thrust was more on talking about Mahiro's relationship with his sister and the state of his place in society. There's a lot to unpack there regarding the hikikomori/NEET phenomenon and the implications of a college-aged man being essentially taken care of by his own little sister. Even if you leave the gender identity themes totally alone, it's an interesting and relevant topic to this manga.
You're still not making sense, which you yourself already admitted:
"There's a lot to unpack there " - obviously, but not here ; author himself doesn't have any intention of doing that. This particular title lacks finesse and depth in relation to topics that you're so intent on bringing up.
So once again, why not seek stimulation somewhere else, instead of missing the point? My guess is, because you don't want to. Your response to that was: "well, because i
can and it's perfectly within my rights to do so".
And my reply to your response is: "duh doy". But in the end, that's not the answer to a question about reasons for doing something so counterproductive.
But I do think the gender bender element makes an already-interesting story concept even moreso.
It really doesn't, unless you still wanna yap about "sex expected traits and roles" (which would've been more appropriate to do in "Otomen" or "Boku to Kanojo no XXX", if only in comparison).
It would be nice to get one "serious" chapter at some point, though I absolutely agree that this isn't that kind of manga like those others. And I wouldn't want this manga to become serious/dramatic, [...] It wouldn't tonally fit the story to suddenly become a drama.
"I don't wanna, but i'm gonna". Yeesh.
we have stuff like Shishunki Bitter Change and other similar manga for that.
I think you either didn't read it, or once again are projecting stuff that you wanted in it into the story. I sense a pattern.
Every comedy manga I've ever read does have a serious chapter eventually and I'm hoping when/if this one does, it'll touch on the topic of identity.
Then read more, maybe? This isn't the rule,
especially when it comes to web serialized / pixiv stuff.
if you examine the context I was actually trying to challenge an opinion condemning this manga's plot because I love this manga. By your very own standards, it could be said I was actually trying to douse what you'd consider to be a "dumpster fire".
That is not the conclusion that i came to, and while that fucking condescending attitude assuming that i didn't put any thought into what i was commenting on (combined with the initial "you really should read this and that") may be expected from your side of social spectrum, it's still annoying.
I only brought up conversion therapy to let the other person know that I respect the gravity of the stuff they were talking about in an attempt to connect with them and show them that I understand even if I disagreed.)
1) That does not make it any less cringe worthy.
2) Was there any point to that, apart from you feeling better about how good of a person you think you are? There is no merit in establishing emotional connection with the other party when you're discussing ideas. Whole point of a discussion is to stab each other's established notions, bleed them out as much as you can, and see if they still hold up after that.
edit: just to clarify, this isn't a discussion.
