Only Sense Online - Ch. 101

[homerman87]

What are you actually responding to here? You wrote a lot of stuff that has no relevance to what I said, or things I've already explained, so there's really nothing for me to respond to here.

Then your reading comprehension is low or you're so biased in your own opinion that no evidence will ever be good enough to counter your apparently "oh so great opinion." Just because the players aren't behaving exactly as you think they should, it doesn't mean this isn't a fairly realistic scenario for a game that, in universe, really isn't that old (if memory serves, it's about a year, year and a half at best with consistent updates, that tends to leave a lot of a game on this level rather unexplored, as I said before, not that you seem to care in the slightest since this truth runs counter to your "oh so great opinion."

 

[Dragou]

What are you actually responding to here? You wrote a lot of stuff that has no relevance to what I said, or things I've already explained, so there's really nothing for me to respond to here.

I refuted what you "explained" with a explanation why the skills/senses are viewed as they are and what it would need to change that very perception. Which is completely related and relevant to this whole discussion.
By this point you dont even bring arguments anymore besides your own: "People are not like that in my eyes."

Which is 100% subjective, without even one argument or example like I did. Which leads me to the conclusion that you either to thickheaded to adjust, are too intitled or just a plain troll. that is the very vibe you give off from your replies. Even ignoring points and claiming I refute everything from you 100%, even though I do give you at least a point and Parts where you do have one.

But again it seems the whole thing is pointless with all people that are part of one of the 3 above groups. So we will stop the discussion here, because that would be utterly pointless anyway.

 

[AnotherDuck]

I refuted what you "explained"

My point, as I said the very first time, is that players somehow haven't figured out very basic skills and combinations. Like I clarified later, skills like archery and hawk eyes.

You went on with stuff about META, which is only a point if it draws EVERYONE into it. It doesn't, we agreed on that, so there's nothing left for me to defend. There's no point in giving more examples or making new arguments.

I'm not going to defend the points you think I'm making, because I'm not making those points. If that causes you to think I'm a troll or whatever, that's on you for making up strawmen.

 

[Maybei]

If OSO allows players to create multiple avatar then I wonder if that player will have enough time to level their main avatar senses. Or is it just one avatar per account? Or one avatar per helmet?

Time seems to be the most important aspect when it comes to exploring senses.

Can you delete a sense when you don’t want it in your playstyle?

Most casual players look up walkthrough’s like Al and Rina.
Figuring your playstyle in a game like this is not good for a rpg gamer like me. Tank is a tank for me and same for dmg dealer and healer. No wait. I’m definitely more into damage dealing than support of any kind. Can’t handle having a life in my hands except for one cat. The nightmare of having the party blame you for bad healing is enough to dissuade me.

Although having auxiliary senses for hobbies can be nice too but complicated stuff like crafting and combining senses will be left to the walk throughs lol. It doesn’t earn me money to go that deep.

Lol maybe I should read the LN. Though there are probably differences between it and the manga.

Are they ever going to make an anime? Hope they do.

Hope you continue to translate! Amazing job to the translators!

 

[ArchivistAlex98]

Ya ever notice how characters in VRMMO manga/light novels just find one set of gear at like launch day and never update it or change it? Like they just find endgame gear at the start or something pretty much.

This applies to crafters as well. Crafting Class gear exist in some MMOs.

 

[mikmoo01]

Ya ever notice how characters in VRMMO manga/light novels just find one set of gear at like launch day and never update it or change it? Like they just find endgame gear at the start or something pretty much.

This applies to crafters as well. Crafting Class gear exist in some MMOs.

thats cuz most mangaka that seem to do the whole mmo shtick never seem to have actually played that many and are likely only doing "vrmmo" to give a reason for a fantasy setting that isnt just an isekai. like this manga is so far off from how mmos actually work its kinda dumb

 

[mikmoo01]

gotta love that its 101 ch in and the MCs friends still consider the skill senses that MC picks as bad despite him literally being groundbreaking in terms of development and crafting while also somehow still being really close in terms of power to people that focused on combat senses

also how tf are they dunking on telekinesis. its always been literally one of the strongest utility skills in RPGs that have it for decades.

 

[ArchivistAlex98]

gotta love that its 101 ch in and the MCs friends still consider the skill senses that MC picks as bad despite him literally being groundbreaking in terms of development and crafting while also somehow still being really close in terms of power to people that focused on combat senses

also how tf are they dunking on telekinesis. its always been literally one of the strongest utility skills in RPGs that have it for decades.

From what I've heard the Meta about the Skills in question were set in stone by Beta Testers. Going off memory of the manga

From what I remember archery was considered useless they ran out of arrows and had low accuracy at low levels. Which from the perspective of an actual RPG enthusiast makes no sense to me.

I think another Skill of his that's ostracized is Potion making but it's been a while. The problem there I think was just idiots not realizing that crafters can make potions way better then NPC vended potions.

Cooking was useless at the start because they apparently didn't have a Hunger system and food didn't give stat buffs. It was just a thing they could do just because until the first update.

Essentially every Skill that is hated was specifically hated because idiots who have no patience and just wanted to use the skills that are immediately useful instead of investing in long term skills were the vocal minority who defined the common players perception of the Meta

 

[mikmoo01]

From what I've heard the Meta about the Skills in question were set in stone by Beta Testers. Going off memory of the manga

From what I remember archery was considered useless they ran out of arrows and had low accuracy at low levels. Which from the perspective of an actual RPG enthusiast makes no sense to me.

yeah imagine being a beta Tester and not testing out everything, its kinda impossible to imagine by todays standards let alone the future. look at PoE2 for a recent example that very much fits the theme of this, people testing out everything on day 1 and finding combos.

archery being bad because you have to buy arrows didnt make sense to me either because they were also willing to buy potions and just based of the manga the cost of both is inconsequential beyond the start of the game. running out was mentioned once before near the very beginning of the manga but mc found a way to "stack" them almost instantly too and we never actually get to see how the inventory system in this game works in the manga so who knows.

I think another Skill of his that's ostracized is Potion making but it's been a while. The problem there I think was just idiots not realizing that crafters can make potions way better then NPC vended potions.

yeah this one just makes no sense because early on it said the npc vendors had a limited stock of potions meaning you will need to find other sources, so i dont know how potion crafting would ever be labeled as bad.

Cooking was useless at the start because they apparently didn't have a Hunger system and food didn't give stat buffs. It was just a thing they could do just because until the first update.

Essentially every Skill that is hated was specifically hated because idiots who have no patience and just wanted to use the skills that are immediately useful instead of investing in long term skills were the vocal minority who defined the common players perception of the Meta

yeah mc only picked up cooking after the update that gave players a hunger bar. i dunno how people hate on the other skills though without even trying it, not like everyone plays meta in the first place meaning stuff like this shouldve been discovered pretty quick.

(i binged this whole manga when i made my original comment so its all fresh)