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Only Sense Online - Vol. 11 Ch. 59 - A Wish and the God of Death
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@Dragou This is a game were the NPC's had an AI so advanced that they can interact with the players no matter the situation, move in patters so random that it feels like they have true free will, speak accordingly to what is being said by the players and other NPC's, they are even able to analyze their surroundings and decide how to act based on 'their own wishes' (like picking certain items to change a potion or casting an aggro spell at some random mobs), and what you find odd is that some random Boss spawn in a mid level zone? (something that some MMO's really does) and that the devs were too slow in resolving a problem involving Pk's going too far? (Again, something that many MMO's devs do too some times, even WOW had has those issues). I think logic in game mechanics is the last thing we should ask from this manga.
Well, as you said, you like the story, so let's get what we can of this and let it be.
In another note, I, on the other hand, find it odd that only Jun though about trying to keep his fairy. Many players of MMO's and most games in general are hoarders by nature, at least game wise. If they were given something many will most likely try to keep it or recover it if lost. At least I know I will try to get my fairy back.
Well, as you said, you like the story, so let's get what we can of this and let it be.
In another note, I, on the other hand, find it odd that only Jun though about trying to keep his fairy. Many players of MMO's and most games in general are hoarders by nature, at least game wise. If they were given something many will most likely try to keep it or recover it if lost. At least I know I will try to get my fairy back.
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Wow, so many complaints toward the fairy of mischief. Guess the author/mangaka failed to make her likeable enough before this chapter.
Honestly, I kind of like the fairy of mischief:
[ol]1. Free monster aggro means more loot, which also means more material for item creation.
2. Messing with recipes while mostly negative, does mean there is a small percent chance of getting a rare good item.
3. The personality is lively and fun, this makes it a lot more enjoyable to play with. This is even more true of you go along with the pranks some.
4. Its a slice of life game. If everything just goes according to plan then it would be boring. There is a reason the phrase, "Variety is the spice of life" exists.[/ol]
[ol]1. Free monster aggro means more loot, which also means more material for item creation.
2. Messing with recipes while mostly negative, does mean there is a small percent chance of getting a rare good item.
3. The personality is lively and fun, this makes it a lot more enjoyable to play with. This is even more true of you go along with the pranks some.
4. Its a slice of life game. If everything just goes according to plan then it would be boring. There is a reason the phrase, "Variety is the spice of life" exists.[/ol]
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If anything you can get from your reward feels like a waist of the effort put into getting said reward, that is indeed a truly crappy reward... For the MC the ACTUAL reward was not having the fairy around anymore, and he promptly squandered it away...
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@Redice yeah that common in Asian story telling, that does not mean that can't piss me off every time
And yeah i totally agree with you about the challenge, but in MH you can go try again just after, you get information the more you fight, collect track of the monster, there you got one shoot and 3 time the death penalty
I would say some story do get the MMO aspect at least in the player interaction, but rarely they do get the video game part
A video game is limited, from the input device to the time you can put in it, and well game design is pretty hard to do
Now most VRMMO remove the limited part of a video game but still keep all the limited game design and limite them even further for story sake (gold award to SOA and the fact you need a dual welding skill to ... use your second hands even VR game at the time already let you use 2 hands)
one good find is "Kono Sekai ga Game da to Ore dake ga Shitteiru" it's not in a MMO (it's isekai btw) and that one of the rare isekai that actually use the video game system more than "YEAH WE GOT LEVEL SO THE MC DO NOT NEED TO LEARN TO DO ANYTHING" (it piss me off so much a skill system in a real world)
Well it use it because it's a niche video game full of bug and with a cult following so it's good pass time to read
the webtoon "RPG" (cool name i know) that is also great when it come to player being ... well player
And yeah i totally agree with you about the challenge, but in MH you can go try again just after, you get information the more you fight, collect track of the monster, there you got one shoot and 3 time the death penalty
I would say some story do get the MMO aspect at least in the player interaction, but rarely they do get the video game part
A video game is limited, from the input device to the time you can put in it, and well game design is pretty hard to do
Now most VRMMO remove the limited part of a video game but still keep all the limited game design and limite them even further for story sake (gold award to SOA and the fact you need a dual welding skill to ... use your second hands even VR game at the time already let you use 2 hands)
one good find is "Kono Sekai ga Game da to Ore dake ga Shitteiru" it's not in a MMO (it's isekai btw) and that one of the rare isekai that actually use the video game system more than "YEAH WE GOT LEVEL SO THE MC DO NOT NEED TO LEARN TO DO ANYTHING" (it piss me off so much a skill system in a real world)
Well it use it because it's a niche video game full of bug and with a cult following so it's good pass time to read
the webtoon "RPG" (cool name i know) that is also great when it come to player being ... well player
@Zblurth Near as I can tell nothing in SAO actually explicitly stops you from having weapons in both hand slots, and while not shown in SAO itself later games/VR worlds in the series that implement its sword skill systems just let Kirito get away with having swords in both hands and using sword skills with both...but that generally only refers to triggering "one-handed sword" sword skills with either hand, which presumably is only fair for lefties and ambidextrous types; Kirito is sort of abusing the developers' generosity there.
However the dual blades skill of SAO fame comes attached with completely new sword skill animations with their own triggers, attack movements, and intended uses, which essentially makes it a distinct specialized "class" of sorts, or as near as you can get in a game with no class restrictions. Limiting it to a single player in the world is ofc a questionable game design choice (as are a lot of other things about SAO) but I believe it being a separate skill in general is fair.
However the dual blades skill of SAO fame comes attached with completely new sword skill animations with their own triggers, attack movements, and intended uses, which essentially makes it a distinct specialized "class" of sorts, or as near as you can get in a game with no class restrictions. Limiting it to a single player in the world is ofc a questionable game design choice (as are a lot of other things about SAO) but I believe it being a separate skill in general is fair.
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Yeahhhhhh....she's really shit. Like its one thing being a prankster. Annoying in the moment but it can be fun. Its another when the pranks include MURDERING you by pulling extra mobs and not participating in the current fight to do it. Or not acting up while you gather up rare materials but then wasting all of them all at once a couple minutes from the completion of what you were trying to make wasting what could be days of effort gathering for this or that you can't gather again for some days. (Its notable she NEVER fucked with something like minor potions. She only screwed up the potion her master really wanted to make and required materials she couldn't immediately replace.) If the ONLY way you can get the prankster to be obedient for more then 5 minutes is by threatening them with inescapable imprisonment or death there is something seriously wrong. Add in that all the other crafters got fairies beneficial for their craft while hers instead causes massive damages to her income at random......she should be rightfully pissed. For that matter her 'if you were here' bit if she followed that through for about 5 seconds more it'd be the fairy showing up and shooting him in the face.....then dying or just watching her die because it'd have functionally no effect like the dozen bombs.
There were plenty of good fairies with the only shown bad ones being hers and the guy's who caused him to waste his wish. (Though given the guy....might have just been that the two had very low affection for each other more then the fairy just always being belligerent.) I'd have quite enjoyed most the other crafters fairies in different ways, though I think I'd prefer something like a earth elemental fairy (my preferred element) and for her even it'd have been beneficial if it could help take care of plants.
Yeahhhhhh....she's really shit. Like its one thing being a prankster. Annoying in the moment but it can be fun. Its another when the pranks include MURDERING you by pulling extra mobs and not participating in the current fight to do it. Or not acting up while you gather up rare materials but then wasting all of them all at once a couple minutes from the completion of what you were trying to make wasting what could be days of effort gathering for this or that you can't gather again for some days. (Its notable she NEVER fucked with something like minor potions. She only screwed up the potion her master really wanted to make and required materials she couldn't immediately replace.) If the ONLY way you can get the prankster to be obedient for more then 5 minutes is by threatening them with inescapable imprisonment or death there is something seriously wrong. Add in that all the other crafters got fairies beneficial for their craft while hers instead causes massive damages to her income at random......she should be rightfully pissed. For that matter her 'if you were here' bit if she followed that through for about 5 seconds more it'd be the fairy showing up and shooting him in the face.....then dying or just watching her die because it'd have functionally no effect like the dozen bombs.
There were plenty of good fairies with the only shown bad ones being hers and the guy's who caused him to waste his wish. (Though given the guy....might have just been that the two had very low affection for each other more then the fairy just always being belligerent.) I'd have quite enjoyed most the other crafters fairies in different ways, though I think I'd prefer something like a earth elemental fairy (my preferred element) and for her even it'd have been beneficial if it could help take care of plants.
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Wtf !? "If she were here" ??? Really dude ? The only time that I think that the fairy made something that was not absolutely detrimental for the MC was during one fight and it didn't even help that much. Anyway I hope it becomes just another pet that ends up forgotten while MC go get a new pet
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That prankster fairy belongs in a glass jar with no breathing holes. Fuck her.
Yun, you complete idiot! You could have asked for a debuff cleanse!
Having a wandering hard to kill boss is complete bullshit, especially when it chases players.
Yun, you complete idiot! You could have asked for a debuff cleanse!
Having a wandering hard to kill boss is complete bullshit, especially when it chases players.
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The fairy is honestly annoying af and i just kinda wished she'd have stayed as a fuckin ring lmao
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He should have wished for the fairy to an-hero.
And that 3 day penalty for dying to the random grim reaper is such incredible bullshit. If anything there should have been no penalty for it whatsoever since it is a wandering one-hit-kill unbeatable boss. What kind of idiot would design such a thing?
And that 3 day penalty for dying to the random grim reaper is such incredible bullshit. If anything there should have been no penalty for it whatsoever since it is a wandering one-hit-kill unbeatable boss. What kind of idiot would design such a thing?
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Wandering mob that you can't get away from that kills you in 1 hit, and then makes it so you can't play for 3 days.
That's the nail in the coffin, right there. This game has been garbage from the start, but this just goes right over the cliff into outright malicious dev territory. What sort of Chi-com fever dream MMOs has this retarded author been playing to think that any of this trash passes for a game people would actually play for longer than an hour?
That's the nail in the coffin, right there. This game has been garbage from the start, but this just goes right over the cliff into outright malicious dev territory. What sort of Chi-com fever dream MMOs has this retarded author been playing to think that any of this trash passes for a game people would actually play for longer than an hour?
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