Ookami Ryoushu no Ojou-sama - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

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if they fot back together i’m gonna drop this. for now i’ll continue reading though
 
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Lol I thought he would have some guilt but no. Also if this is simply a light hearted manga where they get back together just like that after all that shit that happen in chp 1 then I am dropping this.
 
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Hmmmm this definitely wasn’t the direction I was hoping for this manga to go... I thought it would be a serious drama but this just seems like light hearted fluff.
 
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Who can bet they'd draw a complete diagram of that people's connection that got her a job at the lord's mansion?
 
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I actually don't hate that they get back together since i'm pretty sure from the reaction of ML in the prison, he loved her.
However, HE'S 30 YEARS OLD and the current FL is 15... goodness
 
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I hope it takes wayyyyy longer for them to get together. I can't approve as of right now.
 
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ML did nothing wrong. He gave her every chance to live, but she intentionally did not take it. I wouldn't be surprised if ML was emotionally damaged by this and hiding it because of his duties.
 
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I think I'm gonna drop this. I like the MC but I don't like the fact that she will fall for him again/will end up with him.

If I were her, I would grab my stuff and go live in another country, fck this Lord and fck these people. They were so angry for revenge that they killed someone innocent. Is it stupid that I'm still angry with the towns people (and obviously, this fake/liar Lord)? Well, whatever. I still am.

Reason #1) He was the leader of the revolution, sure, but as leader he could have told everyone that she was innocent, that she didn't know anything about her family's misdeeds.
Reason #2) He killed her entire family. They were bad? Sure. But like someone else said in the comments of chapter 1: they were probably nice to her and they loved her and she loved them. So how can you fall in love with the murderer of your dear family (and by connections, your murderer as well)?
Reason #3) No matter how "kind" these people are now, I still can't forget that they weren't kind enough to try to know/understand if she was innocent in her past life. They blamed her as well without hesitation and without any proof. And again reason #1 with this.

This reminds me of two things:
The Abandoned Empress, which I also dropped because
I read a spoiler that in her second life (she went back in time) she ends up again with the Prince??? And he doesn't even change? Which makes it even worse than this manga, but still. Ugh.
And The "Daughter of Smoke and Bones" trilogy.
since MC ends up with the guy who murdered (or at least helped in a big way) her entire family and race
Issue with the innocence thing is she confessed she knew about everything. It wasn’t as if she kept mum about her role in it all. She told them she did it as that’s all they really cared about. It’s not like the forced her to confess so it’s perfectly understandable why they didn’t try to look to see if she actually did it or not. Not to mention she told him that she wanted to die so he was honoring her final wish. Sure he could have still told them she was innocent but then she’d love the rest of her life in misery for what happened (which can be seen by the way she’s treating herself in this new life).
 
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I am very irritated at his complete disregard of her personal space. I don't know why but I can't stand him. Prabably because he thinks he's hot shit but he's actually not.
Sameeeee. Like it just makes me so angry. Like he’s literally dragging her around. Not to mention that he’s changing her job without asking her at all? I mean she is the employee, but still. Like your male employer who you just met (not in her case, but as far as he knows they just met) is now you’re demanding you becomes his personal maid? Any other 16 yr old girl would be scared shitless. If I was her I would be double scared, bc he might have realzes my identity and decided to keep me close to harass me. He pisses me the fuck off like damn.
TDLR; exactly what sushi-potato said.
 
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I don't get why she would still feel guilty and thinks she needs to atone by becoming a nun. Didn't she refuse to become a nun to begin with? Or is she honestly thinking that she really was at fault for living a happy life thanks to her corrupt parents? I also find it stupid that she will go back to her previous lover, but I guess the author doesn't want us to think too deeply about this standard cliché.
 
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Leaving aside the fact that age gaps that large were pretty normal in these societies, that's kind of a moot point when you consider her reincarnation, isn't it?
In her past life, she was the older than he was-albeit without her knowledge. Heck, they were explicitly stated to be physically intimate at that point. Mentally, she's lived for longer than he has.

Considering all this and the fact that she has more important things to be worried about than rekindling romance, I don't see the problem.
I will contest this point quite heavily. No, these sorts of age gaps weren't very common in aristocratic societies.
Most large age gaps were between widowers and younger women (but notably, not at all in their teenage years). You are mistaking fiction and reality as mirroring eachother.

In the 16th century, it was most common for people to marry in their late 20s to people of a similar age. This gives them enough time, even if they were an aristocrat, to settle their livelihood before settling down.

Regardless, age gap marriages were not done out of love. If they occured, it was solely political in nature. More commonly, these nobles would be married to their peers at a young age, to solidify ties between houses.
 
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what is up with you people trying to justify age gaps with reasoning like that? why do yall keep using that? so what if it was used in societies like that? was this story written back then? of course not, which means that societal norms of the past dont really extend to the societal norms of today when this story was written. If a story with rampant rape and sexual assault and violence against women was written, would yall cape for that too? cause it was written when europeans didnt wash their asses? for real?
Reincarnation doesnt really matter if he didn't really know
which he does eventually find out
but that's beside the point. Now, in the events of the story, he is damn near THIRTY and she is FIFTEEN! and on god if you tell me that you would be comfortable with that just because it happens in a story eye-

And her 'mental' age is so really uncomfortable when yall use it as a reason cause all it calls back to is when predatory people approach kids because theyre old souls or mature for their age or whatever. its god awful.

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and you! for real? a fuckin racial slur? its fuckin 2020 and this is still how yall act?

fuckin brain dead the lot of you
I agree with you almost entirely.

I think the age gap is such a stupid thing for an author to include, they could have easily made her reincarnate at the very least at 18 to be, you know, a barely respectable mangaka.

Also, ignore anyone who dares bring up that classic "oh but real nobles did it" because very few nobles did. Most cases of child marriage were between children, to solidify ties, and there are very few cases of an age gap more than 5 years.

The ONLY THING is that she TECHNICALLY has lived 30 years, but that's a stupid argument because she clearly has not mentally processed jack shit since her reincarnation, and is mentally stuck as a stupid kid... so yeah, this manga's abysmal, imo.
 
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I will contest this point quite heavily. No, these sorts of age gaps weren't very common in aristocratic societies.
Most large age gaps were between widowers and younger women (but notably, not at all in their teenage years). You are mistaking fiction and reality as mirroring eachother.

In the 16th century, it was most common for people to marry in their late 20s to people of a similar age. This gives them enough time, even if they were an aristocrat, to settle their livelihood before settling down.

Regardless, age gap marriages were not done out of love. If they occured, it was solely political in nature. More commonly, these nobles would be married to their peers at a young age, to solidify ties between houses.
It seems I phrased that poorly because there's a reason I opened with "let's set this aside for now".

The point was to ignore that argument entirely so I could focus on the point I was actually making. I've heard arguments both ways, and know of political marriages with huge gaps-though those could just be exceptions to the rule.

I'm not a fan of "well it makes sense based on the times" rationale to justify skeevy things either.
 

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