Ore ni Trauma wo Ataeta Joshi-tachi ga Chirachira Mitekuru kedo, Zannen desu ga Teokure desu - Vol. 6 Ch. 26.1 - 「The Worst Outcome」

[RadDengar]

Btw, we haven't seen glasses sensei on the "current" timeline just yet did we? Is she actually getting trouble because of this?

She better considering how she didn't do shit when he was getting viciously attacked by multiple people and only stepped in when he was going to hit a girl. The immediate reaction for her and the other teacher should have been to immediately step in and break it up.

 

[habla]

she didn't do shit when he was getting viciously attacked by multiple people and only stepped in when he was going to hit a girl.

it's not like it matters, unless he has a hidden camera somewhere
in fact, I hope next chapter it turns out he did have a hidden camera in there 'cause otherwise there's no way the teachers would get punished

 

[Valkyria-Edge]

"perfectly normal reaction" no the fuck it's not? As teachers, or rather as adults, you'd expect them to INSTINCTIVELY rush to save the poor kid no matter how 'Oh so """stunned""" they might be. They deserve to be called out for being a bottlejobs and failing both as teachers and human beings.

Also she snaps right out of it the moment a girl is about to be hit, suuuuuure. MC was at the risk of getting permanent and possibly fatal injuries from repeated hits all over his head and body and had to go full Karate Kid to save his own life. Their teaching licences need to be revoked for being too retarded and incompetent.

love the armchair experts at human reaction and psychology truly love the ignorance

 

[Valkyria-Edge]

I still not feeling ok reading WN/LN ver yet ...

But based on this ...his current self pretending to be mentally damaged or he really damaged?? ..

Because b4 this flashback it's look like he really brain damaged ...but now it's look like he pretending to be one so everyone will move away from him

Spoiler: So

He is brainwashed by his aunt

 

[UrAvgReader-v2]

They finally found out. Go on, bask in the shining light from monster you created. For real though I thought he has some bad childhood but man this is actually far worse than I imagined, no wonder dude just gave up on everything. It's almost like his entire existence attracts only red flags...

 

[MrTurtleMan]

Other teacher quit because how she fucked up, but don't know how glasses teacher got away with this shit you can see her earlier in chapter she's still a teacher with new name probably she's married now and the childhood friend who supposed to be by his side, in future decides to fuck up her relationship instead of fixing the stupid decision she make she literally proceed to date the other guy. Why all Girls in this series is so fucking dumb?

When you post spoilers you should use spoiler tags so people that don't want to be spoiled can avoid being spoiled

But then again, people always say that there is a limit to what you can do as self-defense, and many countries have laws regarding what counts as self-defense.

Like you can't really kill a person in self-defense if that person was just trying to steal (while holding a weapon) from you without but no physical harm was done to you.

And even if some physical harm was done, self-defense shouldn't be more than what harm was done to you (like, breaking someone's body part be hand fingers or knee, for bruise injuries from being beaten-up, could be considered as excessive self-defense which is illegal in many countries).

But overall, since the situation involves childrens, nothing major can happen legally (atleast in Asian region), as long an no one was killed.

If someone threatens you with a weapon yes can kill them, and I live in a country where self defence is basically illegal, only the most retarded law makers would make it illegal to kill someone in self defence because it is possible to kill someone with a single punch (and it happens more often than you would think)

 

[Arcverson]

love the armchair experts at human reaction and psychology truly love the ignorance

You don’t need to be an ‘expert’ at anything to know it’s basic human nature to instinctively step in when a kid is being beaten up. Sure, it was shocking, but not to the point of freezing them in place. Stop making it as if they just witnessed a school shooting with bodies and blood everywhere.

 

[xAKLx]

but you seriously can't be saying that the opinion of the teachers involved in the situation in reporting it to the higher ups would have no weight on any potential punishments Kokonoe might experience?

oh yeah, about that, you will understand next chapter 😂 sorry that's my bad for having knowledge from the novel for what comes next. Regardless, I will be an asshole here and pretend that I'm just smarter: do you really think that he is trusting these fuckers to do a good reporting after everything they've done to him?

If you're gonna state something without justifying/substantiating it, you might as well not state it at all.

brother connect the dots pls, all of those movements started as deeply unpopular, ppl didn't give up just because it was "social suicide" to suport them

And since it seems like your view of "deserved punishment" is the girl basically being socked in the face with all of his might, idk how you can say that such excessive violence

A normal punch or slap would be fine

after it has achieved the 2 purposes I outlined time and time again

yet, once again, it hasn't. We can't possibly be sure about taking into consideration that the first kid attacked him again. At this point the girl is just like "well, that failed" instead of "I should never do that again"

Are you really saying that his words threatening violence against a girl who obviously knew how physically outmatched she was, wouldn't be enough to instill enough fear into her to decentivize a future incitement of violence?

absolutely, taking into consideration that now she knows he would never be able to touch her because a teacher will always protect her from harm

especially now that the teachers involved understand that Kokonoe was not at fault and was actually rather the aggrieved party.

The teachers have known this for a while, heard the students literally talking about beating the MC, and didn't stop shit

Reality is that while women are perfectly capable of agency, there are many aspects of life in which they simply do not desire it

Then go back to the kitchen~ and also don't vote

because as we know, elementary schoolers are renowned for their ability to stay brave in the face of violence and fear, and not you know... pissing their mattresses on the daily from the big bad monster hiding under their beds."

When you protect them from the consequences of their actions? yes, they will continue to do it. It is call pushing boundaries and kids learn that very early on. This is the concept of teaching ppl how you want to be treated because they will push and push to see how much they can get away with, and kids are amazing at this because that's part of how they come to understand the world

 

[Cross-21-]

I was reading some of your discussions... Don't want to quote anyone specifically since there is to much, so here is some info on a few things.

Consequences for Yuki: Zero! He will not be punished for what he did. The vice principal who will join them next ch will actually be on his side and scold the teachers.

Consequences for the classmates: The ones that hit him will become timid and scared kids, "pussies" is the right term. Akari who was his friend before this will try to be friendly with him again, but Yuki will shit on her since he still sees all of them as enemies. The thief will get punched in the face by Yuki and dragged in front of everyone to admit what he did. After that he will be isolated in class as no one wants to have anything to do with him.
The whole classroom will be gloomy and depressing from then as everyone is afraid of Yuki. But he will just mind his own business and ignore everyone.

Consequences for the teachers: I don't remember being anything severe. The glasses teacher vows to do better from here on out. There is a whole backstory of what happens with her but it's nothing major, i don't even remember the details as much. As we can see in the present she did learn from this mistake.
The neighbor finishes her duty as a practice teacher at their school, but she decides she is not fit to be a teacher after this so she quits completely. She did try to apologize to Yuki one last time at the end of her last day, even wanted to give him a letter, but he just ignored her and walked by her like she isn't even there. This will be expanded in the future when Yuki remembers her.

Present/Future: Most of this kids will appear again in another arc. Don't really remember all the details, it has something to do with online slander about Yuki. The thief, bullies and Akari will help him in a way. Yuki does not see them as enemies anymore, he even hangs out with them and also helps the thief become friends with everyone again...
I think him not seeing them as enemies anymore is because of his Aunt's brainwash, but don't quote me on that.

Oh and another thing i saw, would he beat up Akari if he wasn't stopped? Absolutely! He would have beaten up every last one of them in the class! He will say it out loud that he will do it, which will terrify all of them, but the vice principal will walk in at that time.

Btw. If any WN reader spots any mistake feel free to correct me. It's been a bit since i read it so some mistakes can happen

 

[xAKLx]

The problem here, is that the top of the hierarchy (teachers) effectively endorsed violence against the MC as "correct" in maintaining order within their classroom community. They carried the lie about him being a thief, they reinforced that lie among the rest of the class, and contributed multiple times toward ostracizing the MC and Othering him.

not to mention that the kids literally, and in front of the teachers, discussed beating up the MC! and the teachers didn't stop them

 

[xAKLx]

As soon as the three attackers were dealt with, any further violence would make him the aggressor and thus in the wrong.

why should we assume that the other kids who were literally cheering for him to get beaten, wouldn't also jump him, given the opportunity?

 

[Burner5]

why should we assume that the other kids who were literally cheering for him to get beaten, wouldn't also jump him, given the opportunity?

We can assume that the danger was gone as HE was the one who approached another person who WAS NOT blocking his escape. This person also cowered in fear as soon as he approached them. He could have easily left if he wanted to (before the kicking started but ESPECIALLY after he defended himself). After the three main attackers were incapacitated, there was no immediate threat that required physical violence to stop.

 

[wozbond]

Operant conditioning or not, it is still wrong from a societal perspective. He was no longer in danger and his violent self-defense already scared the entire class, thus he did not need to do further acts of violence.

No longer in danger? The entire class and both teachers are against him. Everyone is his enemy. This is not only about physical attacks. The entire class including the girls have waged a mental war against him. I hope there are grave consequences for everyone who blamed and ostracised an innocent party.

 

[xAKLx]

We can assume that the danger was gone as HE was the one who approached another person who WAS NOT blocking his escape.

So he needs to wait for her to attack him when he doesn't expect it to be a danger?

He could have easily left if he wanted to (before the kicking started but ESPECIALLY after he defended himself)

After he defended himself, he was attacked again, twice

After the three main attackers were incapacitated, there was no immediate threat that required physical violence to stop.

define "incapacitated", because at least one of those 3 kids received as much punishment as the first kid who attacked the MC again. And the rest of the kids, who were cheering for him to get beaten, who would've probably joined the beaten if there was more space around the MC to beat him, were in perfectly good condition. And this was literally a premeditated attack. Why should we assume that they were just scared and not already planning how to attack him next as soon as he shows any weakness?
And your "immediate threat" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for this argument. Should you wait for ppl who hate you to pour gasoline on you and approach you with a flame before you do something about it? These kids literally planned to gang up on him and beat him up; this wasn't a random occurrence, or a lapse in judgment, or something that "just happened", this was a predetermined assault

 

[Burner5]

No longer in danger? The entire class and both teachers are against him. Everyone is his enemy. This is not only about physical attacks. The entire class including the girls have waged a mental war against him. I hope there are grave consequences for everyone who blamed and ostracised an innocent party.

A mental war is different from a physical one. At that current moment (when the three attackers have been subdued), there is no one else actively trying to hurt him. He could leave the classroom if he wanted as his classmates were already afraid of him at that point. If he was allowed to act further and he did beat up the entire class then he would be a revenge seeking bully, not someone who was in the right.

So he needs to wait for her to attack him when he doesn't expect it to be a danger?

Yes. He needs to wait for her to ATTEMPT to attack him otherwise it is no longer self defense. He could quite easily leave if he wanted to.

After he defended himself, he was attacked again, twice

The people who attacked him were the same people who initially attacked him. I wouldn't count that sequence as seperate events as he was in the middle of fighting them. After he defeated the three attacking him, no one else opted to come in. It was him who went after a new person.

define "incapacitated", because at least one of those 3 kids received as much punishment as the first kid who attacked the MC again. And the rest of the kids, who were cheering for him to get beaten, who would've probably joined the beaten if there was more space around the MC to beat him, were in perfectly good condition. And this was literally a premeditated attack. Why should we assume that they were just scared and not already planning how to attack him next as soon as he shows any weakness?

By incapacitated, I mean unable to fight either by lack of will or physical ability. If he is able to A) command one of the main attackers to get his shoes and B) walk up to another person (who was not right next to him) and threaten her/almost attack her without being interupted once, then he is no longer in any immediate physical danger. There were many openings for a kid to try to attack him, hell even the teachers were able to stop him from attacking, but none of the kids took that opportunity. He was, at least in that moment, safe.

And your "immediate threat" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for this argument. Should you wait for ppl who hate you to pour gasoline on you and approach you with a flame before you do something about it? These kids literally planned to gang up on him and beat him up; this wasn't a random occurrence, or a lapse in judgment, or something that "just happened", this was a predetermined assault

My point is that he could have attempted to leave as nothing was preventing him from doing so. But he didn't. Notice that your gasoline example could also be solved by leaving. The kids were planning on attacking him, sure. If that was the case then why didn't he try to leave at the first opportunity?

 

[xAKLx]

He could leave the classroom if he wanted as his classmates were already afraid of him at that point.

And get jumped again the next day?

hell even the teachers were able to stop him from attacking, but none of the kids took that opportunity. He was, at least in that moment, safe.

Hindsight is 20/20

My point is that he could have attempted to leave as nothing was preventing him from doing so.

Leave so that he gets attacked the next day??? With how the teachers have acted throughout this whole flashback, I wouldn't be surprised if next time, when he arrives, the teachers chain him and leave the room for the kids to beat him freely.

The kids were planning on attacking him, sure. If that was the case then why didn't he try to leave at the first opportunity?

Maybe because he is solving the issue, instead of being you here, victim blaming 😂

 

[Burner5]

And get jumped again the next day?

Those kids are terrified of him. You really think these kids would jump the kid who came out top of a 1 v 3 where the other kids were crying to their mamas? They won't fuck with him.

Hindsight is 20/20

Nonpoint. They could have "jumped in" then but chose not to because they realised that they couldn't do shit. He knew this. That's why he acted so confidently.

Leave so that he gets attacked the next day??? With how the teachers have acted throughout this whole flashback, I wouldn't be surprised if next time, when he arrives, the teachers chain him and leave the room for the kids to beat him freely.

You really do like to exaggerate how bad the teachers are. They are incompetent, not malicious.

Maybe because he is solving the issue, instead of being you here, victim blaming 😂

"Solving" the issue by (if he actually attacked the girl)/the rest of the class getting suspended and/or worse punishment. Truly a genius plan. They are at a school, not a prison yard. Imtimidation tactics like that would blow up in his face further. ESPECIALLY since there are two teachers in front of him.

Here's the thing you don't understand, self-defense is a LAST RESORT where you attack your assailant only to the extent where you feel safe AT THAT EXACT MOMENT! It does NOT give you the right to beat up everyone on the "chance" they may attack you a few days later. He was safe at the moment he went to attack the new student.

He ONLY made the two teachers his enemy. He could have quite easily gone to the principle/the staff room and explained that he got jumped as it is shown that he has a good relationship with the rest of the schoolboard.

 

[Devil2475]

Let's go.
Gender Equality, yes.

 

[xAKLx]

They could have "jumped in" then but chose not to because they realised that they couldn't do shit

Or because they were temporarily shocked, that was why it was so important for him to continue asserting his dominance instead of running away. Presenting himself as someone who was capable of hitting ppl who were just cheering on was really important to make sure NOBODY would try this shit again

You really do like to exaggerate how bad the teachers are. They are incompetent, not malicious.

I see we all agree with them being incompetent, taking into consideration that they started the issue and did nothing to stop it, even tho they had many opportunities to do so. Now, let's review the "malicious" part.
When the MC proved he couldn't possibly perform the crime because of the timing, the temp teacher literally started changing her story to make it such that the MC could've done it. This was not a stressful situation; they were talking normally, and that bitch was like, "It happened at this time, but if you couldn't do it, then it happened at another time." because the MC for some reason HAS to be the culprit, no matter what.
And when the MC tried to present proof of his innocence, the main teacher literally slapped him.
If this is not malicious, they acted exactly in the same way as someone malicious would

He ONLY made the two teachers his enemy. He could have quite easily gone to the principle/the staff room and explained that he got jumped as it is shown that he has a good relationship with the rest of the schoolboard.

Oh yeah, about that,

Spoiler

wait for the next part 😂

 

[Stratomizer]

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