Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Vol. 7 Ch. 45 - Valuable Subordinates

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[Shelly]

As for everyone else, the matter in my opinion is even worse. Yeah hes got the skills to backup his rudeness, but he disparages people so often on the regular, that I find it hard to believe that it would be worth it to a lot of people. Maybe it's just because of the working environments that I've experienced, but I can name a shitton of people who would rather someone who was less efficient but got along better with everybody else, as opposed to someone who was incredibly efficient, but seemed like he hated everyone within a 10 mile radius of them. The fact that he's gotten no real, tangible blowback from his attitude just strikes me as hard to believe. It's all been offscreen occurrences, people SAYING that things have happened, but we never see it.

Most of the knight trainees hated him, possibly the full knights too. The members of the group he was placed into are a bit of an exception, and part of the reason he was placed there. The soldiers he went on expeditions with also supposedly hated him at the beginning, but changed later. The populace of his parent's territory hate him. Wasn't there a chapter about that when his fiance visited him and they went to town together? Does that not count?

He hasn't gotten real consequences because he's been protected by his status (from villagers and soldiers), and protected by higher-ups who see his talent in fighting (in the knight order).

There are plenty of people in reality that are hated but don't get tangible consequences because the people that hate them aren't in a position to do much about it. Lots of highly public people (politicians, celebrities, etc) have plenty of people that hate them, but don't do anything about it because (outside of extreme extremes) they can't.

Nepotism in the workplace is a closer example. You might strongly dislike coworker X, but X's mom is the big boss and X can do no wrong in her eyes. Big boss will freely fire anyone who X even mentions looks at her the wrong way. What can you do then? No matter how you speak out, you do not have the power in that situation to give her consequences without simultaneously putting yourself in a much worse situation.

Yeah it's odd that his knight group isn't more annoyed at him, but if I remember right it has something to do with their individual personalities and experiences that they care less about that sort of thing. Memories are fuzzy on that though. I read the web novel so my memories also might be mixed up a bit between that and the manga.

 

[saiki47]

What?? Even though he knows Harold is pre occupied with something, he still has the gall to waste his time. I hope he dies.

 

[saiki47]

He's not godly powerful yet. He's painfully aware of the fact that if Justus happened to pay him extra attention right now, he would lose automatically. That's also why he won't go and confront Justus, even though he knows all this time Justus is busy causing trouble and building disasters. Harold simply isn't powerful enough to survive that meeting.

I consider his forced, disagreeable personality one of the best parts of the story. Sure, you have to stretch your suspension of disbelief a little bit, but not as much as you suggest. At the end of the day, he's the first in line in an infamous noble family. Secondly, he's not a windbag. He has the strength to back his foul mouth. He also gets things done. The Sumeragi gladly tolerates his attitude because the Sumeragi hugely benefitted from his advice, as he basically saved the Sumeragi domain, and wasn't even a killer, despite the rumours.

Usually when an isekaied person takes over a character, nothing of the original is left, aside from the body. This is a rare example.



I can somewhat forgive Harold appearing so dense because he believes Erica is forcing herself for the sake of her family. After all, Harold still hasn't noticed the Sumeragi family knows the truth about the faked murder. The supposed unjust murder of a servant was what made Erica really hate Harold, at first. Furthermore, Harold has been adamant about isolating himself up until very recently. He dislikes Harold's character himself, he dislikes the Stokes family and doesn't want to drag anyone into the Stokes family's degeneration, he has to be extremely careful with his game knowledge. So, it's not as much about being dense as it's about believing it's for Erica's own good to have nothing to do with him or the whole Stokes family.

I also agree with you that the forced personality of the previous character is the best thing about this manga

 

[Kaarme]

Rereading this, it is quite annoying that Cody is the one that specifically and personally recruited Harold into the chivalric order, yet now Cody's spending his days spying on Harold and suspecting him of all kinds of conspiracies and whatnot. If it's going to be like that, why did you insist on recruiting him, despite needing to bend the rules to make it happen? Vincent is even worse: suspecting Harold might be some trained anti-chivalric order infiltrator, yet Harold was just minding his own business before Cody dragged him in.

They are awfully quick to suspect Harold, but don't seem to have suspicion left for the villainous looking regular army general who interrupted a chivalric order meeting, like he owned the place, and sent them suddenly on some mission based on intelligence reports he had obviously on purpose prevented the chivalric order from receiving. Yeah, that man has to be as clean as an angel, whereas Harold, who wouldn't have even joined the chivalric order for years (because of the age limit) is super suspicious.

When this is all over, Cody and Vincent should beg for Harold's forgiveness on their knees.

 

[zerio]

Rereading this, it is quite annoying that Cody is the one that specifically and personally recruited Harold into the chivalric order, yet now Cody's spending his days spying on Harold and suspecting him of all kinds of conspiracies and whatnot. If it's going to be like that, why did you insist on recruiting him, despite needing to bend the rules to make it happen? Vincent is even worse: suspecting Harold might be some trained anti-chivalric order infiltrator, yet Harold was just minding his own business before Cody dragged him in.

They are awfully quick to suspect Harold, but don't seem to have suspicion left for the villainous looking regular army general who interrupted a chivalric order meeting, like he owned the place, and sent them suddenly on some mission based on intelligence reports he had obviously on purpose prevented the chivalric order from receiving. Yeah, that man has to be as clean as an angel, whereas Harold, who wouldn't have even joined the chivalric order for years (because of the age limit) is super suspicious.

When this is all over, Cody and Vincent should beg for Harold's forgiveness on their knees.

For real. I understand being suspicious a bit. But some of his accusations were beyond stupid.
"Harold seemed to know about the mist monster. But why did he fight in a roundabout way? Oh! It's because he wanted to hide that he knew something!"

Like wtf. Isn't a more logical conclusion be that he knew something but not everything?
Why would you suspect him that much? As you mentioned, it was him who recruited Harold.

 

[Commenter]

Is this guy an actual idiot? Your soldiers are getting slaughtered in real time by confirmed enemies and you want to waste time duelling Harold while more of your men die? Who the fuck made this guy leader?

 

[PigeonHater]

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