Ori no Naka - Ch. 7 - Casual and Serious

[Robertinho]

Holy shit XDDD Her knowing all she does, and acting like this... IS SCARY AS HELL OMG....

Both are creep for me

 

[Quroh_JG]

Sexo?
I'd say he's gonna mess it all, but we know she's as crazy as him, so I have no idea what's gonna happen next

 

[danbellucci]

A

What's her game really? and why does she think she can play games with someone she already knows is a freak?

She has him on camera gooning to her menstrual pads, at work, and decided to give him a chance?

She said in her internal monologue that this insect is both like and not-like the other insects, referring to Gomi and the random men who grope her on the train.
This indicates to me that she actually enjoys gets turned on being objectified and subjected to men's perverted desires on some level even if she hates it/them at the same time.
If this hypothesis is true then it's likely she's getting frustrated/tired/turned off by Gomi being so timid and toothless and needing so many nudges.
Unless it's somehow the combination of herbivore-ness/shyness/timidity and perversion which Yumezoora finds attractive, but IMO that's a bit too specific and convenient and contrived.
I expect the author will punch us in the gut in some way with Yumezora's mindset. her finding herbivore men cute is too soft and safe and easy.

 

[chiiichan]

pinkys needed their own room, I felt like I was interrupting them pinkies 😔

 

[Ninja]

A

She said in her internal monologue that this insect is both like and not-like the other insects, referring to Gomi and the random men who grope her on the train.
This indicates to me that she actually enjoys gets turned on being objectified and subjected to men's perverted desires on some level even if she hates it/them at the same time.
If this hypothesis is true then it's likely she's getting frustrated/tired/turned off by Gomi being so timid and toothless and needing so many nudges.
Unless it's somehow the combination of herbivore-ness/shyness/timidity and perversion which Yumezoora finds attractive, but IMO that's a bit too specific and convenient and contrived.
I expect the author will punch us in the gut in some way with Yumezora's mindset. her finding herbivore men cute is too soft and safe and easy.

I think the difference to those men is exactly the aggression. The molesters on the train degrade and reduce her, Gomi is degrading himself to her discarded body waste. It's like he is a pathetic insect on the ground she relieved herself all over. It's the opposite power dynamic.

 

[Nosebleed]

She said in her internal monologue that this insect is both like and not-like the other insects, referring to Gomi and the random men who grope her on the train.

I just want to clarify this is not what she said.

She said, specifically, the disgust she felt toward Jirou is both the same disgust she felt for other men but also slightly different. Only disgust was mentioned as an emotion she felt.

Essentially implying that while other men just 100% repulse her, Jirou repulses her but also makes her feel something more, and that's clearly what she's been exploring since.

 

[ScarecrowB]

I don't think you are considering, or at least giving enough importance to, the chapter where he speaks of his ideals and views on romance and women. In the past, he made a decision for himself to never do anything to a woman because he doesn't want them to destroy his life. To be harmless in society (ie only goon to fantasy), 無害 in Japanese (a term that is often used on men who will never do anything sexual to a woman, meaning they're "safe" men). That is his big inhibitor and why he has not done a single thing to Kuroko despite the positive affirmation she has given him.

Notice how every bit of narration and internal dialogue (when it's not just being horny) is always worded in a cautious tone. He calculates his actions in minute detail not because he's trying to get in her pants, but because he does not want Kuroko to hate him. He doesn't want to disrespect her or do anything wrong, because ultimately he's more anxious/afraid than anything, no matter how unimaginably horny he is deep down. He has panicked over this multiple times now.

The door bursting open in this chapter metaphorically symbolizes him finally taking a step beyond that (or more precisely, the emotions finally being strong enough to tear those shackles whether he wants to or not), yet at the same time he is still doing everything he can to keep it together, hesitating, because of his huge fear of women. So him touching her finger was literally all he could muster in his jumbled emotional state after stepping out of his shell for the first time ever.

Him fantasizing about rape and having been with prostitutes does not at all undermine this because those were transactional relationships (or fictional ones) where he could feel comfortable he wasn't breaking social norms. Here it's entirely different, and it's also why he still calls himself a virgin.

His fears are all well grounded too, in current society his life could get utterly destroyed beyond repair if she as much insinuates that he did something inappropriate to her. He has seen the news, he browses the net so he knows the risks far outweigh any possible short term benefit.

 

[Alex646]

Haha, look how she is playing with him! Elegant manipulator and virgin killer I feel in her. I'm still thinking that Yumezora just pretends to be interested in Gomi. Anyway, Gomi is in the grave danger coz this is Japan.

Here it's entirely different, and it's also why he still calls himself a virgin.

He have just lied about whores.
Anyway, kudos to author for once again VERY detailed description of typical total virgin's mindset. Definitely author's past (or present lol) experience.

 

[Late_Komei]

Next chapter kiss, after that, invite to her home?? I'm rooting for Gomi to take that step.

 

[Alex646]

Next chapter kiss, after that, invite to her home?? I'm rooting for Gomi to take that step.

Haha, naive. That would be too boring.
Part of me hopes that Gomi will prevail her seducing. Other part thinks that something will happen. Very bad for Gomi.

 

[Ingway]

This feels really cute, and then you remember what lead up to this. She did question herself on why she seemingly likes the idea that he was the one doing it, while still feeling it's disgusting. I still think she wants to put him on the spot and get freaky with him, to see how he reacts, but maybe she also likes they fact they have so much in common with what she was testing.

 

[Ninja]

The

Next chapter kiss, after that, invite to her home?? I'm rooting for Gomi to take that step.

Then handcuffs and blackmail.

 

[ZhdanLyubav]

ts so fire but its hilarious watching the ratings of this series go down

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

How the hell did h*ndh*lding like this get past the Japanese censors? Gyat damn.

What's her game really? and why does she think she can play games with someone she already knows is a freak?

She is an even bigger perverted freak. That's her game.

 

[spons]

author's building this shit up so it can crash down even more spectacularly.

 

[Late_Komei]

Then handcuffs and blackmail.

Hopefully, hey as long as she executes whatever she's planning....

Haha, naive. That would be too boring.
Part of me hopes that Gomi will prevail her seducing. Other part thinks that something will happen. Very bad for Gomi.

The 'date' could end with hand holding, and Gomi planning to take it further on the next one but they already did that during the first meet up. I expect more escalation from Gomi before she reveals the blackmail or whatever she has in mind with him.

 

[mrboxeater]

I don't think you are considering, or at least giving enough importance to, the chapter where he speaks of his ideals and views on romance and women. In the past, he made a decision for himself to never do anything to a woman because he doesn't want them to destroy his life. To be harmless in society (ie only goon to fantasy), 無害 in Japanese (a term that is often used on men who will never do anything sexual to a woman, meaning they're "safe" men). That is his big inhibitor and why he has not done a single thing to Kuroko despite the positive affirmation she has given him.

Notice how every bit of narration and internal dialogue (when it's not just being horny) is always worded in a cautious tone. He calculates his actions in minute detail not because he's trying to get in her pants, but because he does not want Kuroko to hate him. He doesn't want to disrespect her or do anything wrong, because ultimately he's more anxious/afraid than anything, no matter how unimaginably horny he is deep down. He has panicked over this multiple times now.

The door bursting open in this chapter metaphorically symbolizes him finally taking a step beyond that (or more precisely, the emotions finally being strong enough to tear those shackles whether he wants to or not), yet at the same time he is still doing everything he can to keep it together, hesitating, because of his huge fear of women. So him touching her finger was literally all he could muster in his jumbled emotional state after stepping out of his shell for the first time ever.

Him fantasizing about rape and having been with prostitutes does not at all undermine this because those were transactional relationships (or fictional ones) where he could feel comfortable he wasn't breaking social norms. Here it's entirely different, and it's also why he still calls himself a virgin.

The MCs internal dialogue sounds like a realistic Kazuya from RaG, almost like a incel parody or satire

 

[Rainmoarr]

Both are creep for me

Like seriously, we kind of glanced over the fact that she illegally filmed someone jacking off in a bathroom, and now we have people here acting like she has the moral ground 😭

 

[Ninja]

Like seriously, we kind of glanced over the fact that she illegally filmed someone jacking off in a bathroom, and now we have people here acting like she has the moral ground 😭

She might have filmed orher people going to the bathroom. But she certainly has moral ground on MC given what he uses to jack off.

 

[miles5k]

She's trolling.