Oroka na Tenshi wa Akuma to Odoru - Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - Shedding Tears.

[MangaDex]

 

[gwings01]

Thank you for the chapter~

 

[ultraleaf]

Sensei your sacrifice will be in vain

 

[tkmisere]

Poor sensei, you don't just blow someone wig

 

[depzdai]

Was page 4 a foreshadowing?

 

[definitionofinsanity]

...Okay, I'm very confused as to how... why... what... this... chain thing... And if the chain thing this "doll" as well or are they two separate things (and if they aren't, why in the fuck did the "doll" come out with the chains when she tried to change the spell)? Because if they're the same, how can she still control and use the chains? Why was it crying while trying to kill Akutsu? None of this is making any god damn sense.

 

[yarnnnn]

@definitionofinsanity
The doll faked crying to create openings in Akutsu's defenses. He did say that the doll was similar to Amane, who also uses trickery to make him submit to her.

The doll was literally made out of the chains so they aren't two separate things.

Because if they're the same, how can she still control and use the chains?

I don't exactly understand how it didn't make sense to you. The doll is practically a golem. It wouldn't be a surprise if a golem made out of mud shoots mud at you.

Don't think too hard about it, dude.

 

[kwendy]

Senseeeei!
Ok, will demon-boy try to charm the doll next chapter?

 

[Al_Azif]

RIP Sensei

 

[OniBarubary]

SENSEEEEEIIIIII!

;----;

 

[definitionofinsanity]

@yarnnnn

The doll faked crying to create openings in Akutsu's defenses. He did say that the doll was similar to Amane, who also uses trickery to make him submit to her.

...Yeah, no.

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and it even continues...

Even Akutsu doesn't seem to understand the meaning of it. Which makes sense, because... she... it... whatever... keeps on doing it. Even when it has STOPPED creating opening in his defense, which it only did so once.

The doll was literally made out of the chains so they aren't two separate things.

Is it? Or does the doll make the chains? Or vice-versa? Or maybe they actually AREN'T the same thing and are separate and the chains merely set her off because... I dunno... it sensed Amane was in danger because of what she was doing and it isn't actually the chains.

The point is this is a lot of assuming about some shit we've seen briefly little bits of before and have never seen this shit before and it's not being explained or making sense. Especially when, logically speaking, if both the chains and the doll are the same thing, AMANE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONTROL ONE BUT NOT THE OTHER LIKE WE SEE HERE. That... is not logically consistent.

I don't exactly understand how it didn't make sense to you. The doll is practically a golem. It wouldn't be a surprise if a golem made out of mud shoots mud at you.

See above. Not consistent. Or poorly explained. I don't see how this DOES make sense to you.

Don't think too hard about it, dude.

I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I really, really hate seeing this argument. Especially in light of clusterfucks like "The Last Jedi" which are also logically inconsistent (and in the case of TLJ, to the point of wanting gouge out my eyes and eardrums with a fucking soldering iron). Yes, it's a manga about demons and angels on earth in a Japanese high school falling in love in a rom-com. I get it. But when I'm reading it and I'm confused and going "what the hell is happening, what is this? why? ...huh?" in the middle of reading it, it subtracts from the experience and fun of reading it. Same goes for other media that also have plot issues or bad writing. I don't expect the core of my soul to twist and weep at the grand and moving writing in manga like this, but I expect that it be written well enough that it doesn't actively interfere and bring me out of the story as I read it.

I think about these things because I'm convinced that the authors didn't do it in the first place.

 

[rediscover]

Is it just me or are the translations kind of dogshit?

 

[TheUnusualDemon]

@rediscover While they aren't spectacular and I notice more and more spelling mistakes as the chapters go on, the translator themselves said that they are quite busy and this is probably something they do in their free time.

 

[Yautja]

@rediscover
Yes.

@definitionofinsanity
+1, I'm also confused as fuck. +100 to them bits about assumptions and the stupid argument.

 

[yarnnnn]

@definitionofinsanity
The crying. Didn't the doll do it only twice for the same reason? Both when Akutsu was about to hit it. In page 16, he did say "So it was like that" then at page 17, "She is similar to this person". I thought that he was talking about the crying. Or was he talking about something else?

I get that it is as you said about the doll. It's too early to assume that this is this and that is that since the only description they said about the doll was that it's the real form of Amane's weapon. Other than that, it was just them trying to stop it. That was my bad.

About that "Don't think too hard about it". I realized that that's dumb and wrong. It seemed like I was telling you to not bother thinking about things that don't add up. Even if it's a rom-com with extra bits, it still needs explanation. I apologize for that.

 

[dankdevice]

glad im not the only one who had no idea what was going on this chapter

 

[Sollertia_]

Lmao I knew that there was too much romantic progression so it's time to throw this in and develop some backstory as well

 

[DarklordVor]

It started off well you know, but now that it returned back to its original story... it kinda feels meh to me. I guess I'm just a romance sucker

 

[JumboWheat01]

Sensei, no! You will be remembered!

 

[JustCallMeDaBoss]

Damn that manifestation looking bad as hell that should have been Amanes look the bigger tits make a better impact.

Is the eye supposed to look demonic is she getting changed by Akkuns aura?