Osananajimi Kanojo no Morahara ga Hidoin de Zetsuen Sengen shite Yatta - Ch. 53.2

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Yeah I hope she is dealt with too but that might be more complicated especially if she has done this many times and got recorded evidence or stuff of there's as insurances, for example their boss
Oh, my Gosh another one of you people don't you ever disrespect Hanabi they heck you think you are talking about hoping she is dealt with she barely did anything she's suffering more than anyone right now and she is not the only one in the wrong Souma is in the wrong as well.
 
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To be honest as much as I want to say your wrong you are right but I meant what I said I will defend Hanabi till the end, though what you said is true take into account that he gave her time to experiment and push his boundaries when they were kids as wrong as that may be you got to take into account that kids don't just listen to other kids you could argue that Souma is "is not like other kids" but really that doesn't make a difference in the end the thing that started all of this is him basically giving her time to experiment but at the same time Souma and Hanabi both equally lived their own versions of hell just for Souma to break up with Hanabi.


No, I won't accept how this story is put out around Chapter 30 Souma completely changes the subject when it was on Hanabi he dodged everything in that conversation you say he started believing everything she said alright but at the same time him admitting that then switching up makes absolutely no sense and I will not respect what ever that sexual plot was what they did to Hanabi and she was being threatened by some freaking videos of SOUMA then come to realize he just doesn't care then he gives a weirdly cliche speech I will never respect that.

The, thing I'm trying to get across is Souma is also in the wrong here because he could have told his mother he had so much time to stop all this we don't even know how long they have been dating and in all those times he could have changed things but you claim he started to believe everything she said well wrong because he broke up with her and time and time again he keeps proving he didn't believe what she said he talking about he won't let her take center stage again DONT FRICK WITH ME SHE IS FREAKING GROVELLING BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO APOLOGIZE SHES FREAKING GRIEVING she has been grieving for the longest and I am genuinely tired of it she does not deserve to go through all this just give her, her peace and let her live her life without grief or any of this is going to far.
Ever heard of victim blaming? This really isn't any different from seeing a woman who'd suffered from psychological abuse, who spent years convinced that her boyfriend/husband was completely right and she deserves the treatment she's getting, and saying "she could have said something or stood up for herself, she's just as much to blame for this as her husband is!" And no, he did clearly believe what she said up until he finally left her. He followed her orders and believed what she said, believed that no one would side with him, believed that people would react the way you did or even just dismiss him outright. The problem was that Hanabi pushed him past the threshold. She'd managed to keep him for years in this state where no matter how badly she treated him he was sure others would treat him worse and losing her as his "support" would just lead to an even more hellish existence. But being forced to push himself to the point that his life was in danger for a laugh finally convinced him that the future she insisted he'd have without her, alone and outcast and hated by all, would still be safer and less painful than staying with her.

The recent plot was definitely over the top. I can see the idea behind it, as I said of her being convinced that her actions carry huge weight, that the ways she'd put him down were so extreme they'd ruin his life, despite the fact that someone who'd really stayed on Souma's side and watched his friends with something other than self-centered jealousy would easily realize that the guy's life is now built around individuals who would see those clips and not feel any contempt, pity or other unwanted feelings toward him. Good lesson for her, but badly executed and really didn't need to go so far as rape and prostitution.

And that's not to say I think Souma is entirely correct. I think he's in the right, but he's not judging clearly or correctly as he has an understandable bias against her. After more than a decade of abuse, he doesn't believe she can care about others or that she can be sincere about her regrets, and so when she apologizes or even grovels all he can see is a big public act designed to make everyone look at her and pity the tragic heroine. This is clearly not the case, and it seems like Yukishiro realizes this just like she realized there was a form of love in Hanabi's actions back in 30. Like I said before, she's not like he believes, a drama queen who's desperately trying to make herself the main character regardless whether it's a love story or a tragedy. She may have been a bit like that in the past, but she's made it past that and seems to hate that past behavior. She just needs to grow a bit further and realize that she indeed CAN live her own life without worrying. She's basically treating her past abuses as an unforgivable sin that ruined Souma's life rather than a cruel experience that ruined their potential relationship with one another. If she can get that through her head, she will indeed be able to move on, find her own path, make friends who exist for reasons unrelated to her relationship with Souma, get a boyfriend who's not just there to make him jealous, achieve a future career and lifestyle that is completely separate from him and not at all unfulfilling for that.
 
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Ever heard of victim blaming? This really isn't any different from seeing a woman who'd suffered from psychological abuse, who spent years convinced that her boyfriend/husband was completely right and she deserves the treatment she's getting, and saying "she could have said something or stood up for herself, she's just as much to blame for this as her husband is!" And no, he did clearly believe what she said up until he finally left her. He followed her orders and believed what she said, believed that no one would side with him, believed that people would react the way you did or even just dismiss him outright. The problem was that Hanabi pushed him past the threshold. She'd managed to keep him for years in this state where no matter how badly she treated him he was sure others would treat him worse and losing her as his "support" would just lead to an even more hellish existence. But being forced to push himself to the point that his life was in danger for a laugh finally convinced him that the future she insisted he'd have without her, alone and outcast and hated by all, would still be safer and less painful than staying with her.

The recent plot was definitely over the top. I can see the idea behind it, as I said of her being convinced that her actions carry huge weight, that the ways she'd put him down were so extreme they'd ruin his life, despite the fact that someone who'd really stayed on Souma's side and watched his friends with something other than self-centered jealousy would easily realize that the guy's life is now built around individuals who would see those clips and not feel any contempt, pity or other unwanted feelings toward him. Good lesson for her, but badly executed and really didn't need to go so far as rape and prostitution.

And that's not to say I think Souma is entirely correct. I think he's in the right, but he's not judging clearly or correctly as he has an understandable bias against her. After more than a decade of abuse, he doesn't believe she can care about others or that she can be sincere about her regrets, and so when she apologizes or even grovels all he can see is a big public act designed to make everyone look at her and pity the tragic heroine. This is clearly not the case, and it seems like Yukishiro realizes this just like she realized there was a form of love in Hanabi's actions back in 30. Like I said before, she's not like he believes, a drama queen who's desperately trying to make herself the main character regardless whether it's a love story or a tragedy. She may have been a bit like that in the past, but she's made it past that and seems to hate that past behavior. She just needs to grow a bit further and realize that she indeed CAN live her own life without worrying. She's basically treating her past abuses as an unforgivable sin that ruined Souma's life rather than a cruel experience that ruined their potential relationship with one another. If she can get that through her head, she will indeed be able to move on, find her own path, make friends who exist for reasons unrelated to her relationship with Souma, get a boyfriend who's not just there to make him jealous, achieve a future career and lifestyle that is completely separate from him and not at all unfulfilling for that.
That person went off on me too which is weird because in my post just above yours, that they replied to, I wasn't talking about Hanabi, but the skank at work who's drugging, raping and blackmail people, so far former employees and she has dirt on the boss.

I think they wanted to assume I was talking drama about Hanabi to fit the agenda of an attack reply, odd.

As for my thoughts on Hanabi she's done bad things the level of blow back has gone 100 times over what she did and reminds me of healer hero getting even
 
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I still can't wrap my head around this. I remember I dropped this because of how dumb this is but now we have the stupid bitch getting pimped because of a video of a kid getting bullied? Really? This can't be real. Also I think the mc got drugged but he acts like he took advantage??? No wonder I dropped this..
 
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Ever heard of victim blaming? This really isn't any different from seeing a woman who'd suffered from psychological abuse, who spent years convinced that her boyfriend/husband was completely right and she deserves the treatment she's getting, and saying "she could have said something or stood up for herself, she's just as much to blame for this as her husband is!" And no, he did clearly believe what she said up until he finally left her. He followed her orders and believed what she said, believed that no one would side with him, believed that people would react the way you did or even just dismiss him outright. The problem was that Hanabi pushed him past the threshold. She'd managed to keep him for years in this state where no matter how badly she treated him he was sure others would treat him worse and losing her as his "support" would just lead to an even more hellish existence. But being forced to push himself to the point that his life was in danger for a laugh finally convinced him that the future she insisted he'd have without her, alone and outcast and hated by all, would still be safer and less painful than staying with her.

The recent plot was definitely over the top. I can see the idea behind it, as I said of her being convinced that her actions carry huge weight, that the ways she'd put him down were so extreme they'd ruin his life, despite the fact that someone who'd really stayed on Souma's side and watched his friends with something other than self-centered jealousy would easily realize that the guy's life is now built around individuals who would see those clips and not feel any contempt, pity or other unwanted feelings toward him. Good lesson for her, but badly executed and really didn't need to go so far as rape and prostitution.

And that's not to say I think Souma is entirely correct. I think he's in the right, but he's not judging clearly or correctly as he has an understandable bias against her. After more than a decade of abuse, he doesn't believe she can care about others or that she can be sincere about her regrets, and so when she apologizes or even grovels all he can see is a big public act designed to make everyone look at her and pity the tragic heroine. This is clearly not the case, and it seems like Yukishiro realizes this just like she realized there was a form of love in Hanabi's actions back in 30. Like I said before, she's not like he believes, a drama queen who's desperately trying to make herself the main character regardless whether it's a love story or a tragedy. She may have been a bit like that in the past, but she's made it past that and seems to hate that past behavior. She just needs to grow a bit further and realize that she indeed CAN live her own life without worrying. She's basically treating her past abuses as an unforgivable sin that ruined Souma's life rather than a cruel experience that ruined their potential relationship with one another. If she can get that through her head, she will indeed be able to move on, find her own path, make friends who exist for reasons unrelated to her relationship with Souma, get a boyfriend who's not just there to make him jealous, achieve a future career and lifestyle that is completely separate from him and not at all unfulfilling for that.
I didn't see any slander against Hanabi in this text I did read the whole thing and I believe what you say to be true though their are still somethings I would try to defend it would be for no reason you are quite right and you know that so thanks for having a constructive conversation with me.
 
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That person went off on me too which is weird because in my post just above yours, that they replied to, I wasn't talking about Hanabi, but the skank at work who's drugging, raping and blackmail people, so far former employees and she has dirt on the boss.

I think they wanted to assume I was talking drama about Hanabi to fit the agenda of an attack reply, odd.

As for my thoughts on Hanabi she's done bad things the level of blow back has gone 100 times over what she did and reminds me of healer hero getting even
I apologize if your comment wasn't directed towards Hanabi but though you may believe your words weren't a shot at her based on what I read I probably misunderstood but right now your pushing it.

Redo of healer don't even get me started with that load of crap she never did anything that could potentially end his life maybe his social life but in redo of healer the main character was going through it and it drove him psychotic though he had a clear understanding.

So now stop throwing shots at Hanabi and I would not have to get defensive I said I would defend Hanabi but I will still acknowledge her mistakes those can't ever be subsided but you throw out comments completely ignoring my first statement I said I would defend Hanabi and I plan on doing that.
 
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And... She whoring herself out for nothing... Just for readers to sympathize her. I would much rather read the doujin of her getting it though. She's hot.
 
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And... She whoring herself out for nothing... Just for readers to sympathize her. I would much rather read the doujin of her getting it though. She's hot.
Ok bro your kind of weird you act like she knows she's in a manga so your kind of weird for that one though I do wish she didn't do that.
 
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I drop this because the plot and the conversation really not make sense anymore for me, the excitement of early chapter is gone. I honestly think this manga just brain rot in sense how it handle the plot, it's true the response is adult like but how it handle the plot with over the top harassment rape in park with conclusions just pretending in never happening just lazy honestly. Thank you for the translation until now, please stay healthy and stay safe
 
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From one nosensical drama to another... can't wait... (at this point this is nothing but a cash grab for Japanese readers)
It baffles me that a lot of good manga are getting axed, meanwhile shit like this manga & rent a gf still ongoing
 
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dropped this half a year ago and author decides to end the "teenage girl gets blackmailed, raped and pimped out" arc with a "um, actually totally I dont care" like, ok little bro, sure you dont.

I hope everyone knows this doesn't make MC look cool or even a well adjusted human being.

Rape and sex trafficking aren't something you use as "punishments" bc a (fake) women was a pos to you your entire life. jesus.
 

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