Osoraku Kanojo wa Ore no Aniki wo Neratteru - Ch. 17

[Phantasmoon]

The way I see it is if he did notice hes kind of a jackass for not shutting it down with his influence, if he didnt notice then he is legitimately stupid and doesnt actually notice his brothers pain out of pure ignorance.

Finally, someone who understands it, damn every time I point that out people go writing a bible on how "he gets along with his family" despite the fact no one pointed that...

 

[UdenEmpati]

This i fully agree with.

I meant it more like people are generally more or less indifferent to others.
Cruelty would require being proactive, and most people truly care about very limited number of people (and acts of kindness to strangers are usually limited by the effort it requires - people will easily give a seat to elderly stranger on a public transport when they spot one getting on, how many people will start bringing them groceries themselves?).
You have yourself and your immediate family (where people are able to make significant sacrifices), then maybe few close friends and further family members (people that you'll do a lot for, but won't give up your life or get a significant hit in for example standard of living), then acquaintances (people you won't lose sleep over if they have problems), then finally more or less strangers.
Which group people would let crash on their couch for few weeks/months because their living situation is messy? Take a call from at 2AM and stay with them till morning, because they just need someone to talk to? And for which group people would do that w/o getting annoyed somewhat, just because they genuinely want to help?

My actions with a friend in this situation would be a) listening to their situation if they start talking, b) if i get asked for my advice too, what i would probably say would be along these lines: that other people can help them, but in the end they have to do the heavy lifting - and that girls won't drop into their lap, so 2 choices i see are either giving up and being alone, which is easier and lonely, or not giving up, potentially getting hurt again, and potentially not being alone.
IMO problem here isn't with blunt advice, problem is unsolicited blunt advice from people who don't really care (and fact of looking for advice from people who don't care - you either get superficial cheering you up that doesn't change anything, or some blunt advice you are not prepared to take and as you said might be more damaging).

The original person who spawned all of this called the MC weak for "letting his trauma get in the way".

Which remains the focus of my entire point - as you said, unsolicited advice that does nothing constructive and is cold and uncaring.

You make good points, but I maintain that it really does involve how things are stated. Language is a powerful thing, and the words used matter in what results are obtained. We see that in the manga with how many times Tohno was burned, especially by insidious people being sly or secretive in how they went about using him to get to Rei.

And just by your intitial and then expanded comment - what you stated here, goes much further in convincingly conveying your point than your initial comment. Maybe you were less invested in the conversation before and spent less time, but as shown, your initial comment came off much more negatively than this one.

That's what I'm saying when I said there's more constructive ways. Blunt advice isn't bad, but there's ways to make ot actually helpful, and it has to come from a place of actual desire to help.

You conveyed that. The original person everyone was bagging on, didn't.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Finally, someone who understands it, damn every time I point that out people go writing a bible on how "he gets along with his family" despite the fact no one pointed that...

It's because you're not taking into account how insular Tohno is. If he felt put out from a young age over being constantly compared to his brother, he'd become closed off and not talk to him about these things. If he otherwise acts normally at home, his family wouldn't know what was up.
His friends do, because they know his situation because he's confided in them to some degree, and/or they see first-hand what he's gone through by virtue of being in the same class & grade and thus being present at school when girls would approach Tohno to use him -something Rei wouldn't be able to do.

People can only help if they actually know something's going on.
Maybe we'll get further illumination on the matter pertaining to Rei and the family, but we've gotten enough to show that they're not bad people or simply being uncaring about Tohno's plight.

 

[RooktheRH]

If she turns out to be playing him, we march at dawn.

 

[DMassiv]

Dang tis is a good shi

 

[GambierBay]

Yay! Relationship level up!

 

[JaceG13]

OUCH that flashback definitely justify why he hated all girls that try to coming onto him and why he guard up against Houjou so much at least their relationship is progressing now. I hope no forced drama between them in the future

Imagine something happens to older bro and Tohno innocently asks if he's ok and sets lil bro off.

 

[Rafflesiaa]

Absolute Cinema

 

[theshet]

I like how that was done, the risk is there but the trust and recognition of her was so well done.

 

[ududjeisie]

Houjou, you finally did it. He finally bites. Now you can start working toward the real target. His brother! 🥰

Nobody thinks you're funny

 

[ududjeisie]

Eh, I mean, it sucks that girls only come to him for the sole purpose of getting close to his brother but surely it only amounts to small annoyances. Why are you sulking when they pay attention to your brother, do you also want to be popular with the girls? Kinda shallow and immature, but I guess it’s spot on for his age

Do you turn your brain off while you read?

 

[gggadget]

Im glad Tohno has good people like his friends and Houjou around him to help him through his trauma. Takemiya especially is an absolute bro. Possibly bro of the year

 

[pengsu]

ts so peak 😭

 

[kuro0102]

It's only been 17 chapters but this is 100% getting an anime adaptation.

 

[Lewd_Beast]

Darn it.... I've already given this 10 ⭐ I can't raise it any higher.

 

[duagreste]

honestly, I always thought this whole drama was pretty weak and wouldn't hold up for long. thankfully, the author realized that and made it overcome that problem relatively quickly.

we need an anime adaptation of this 🙏🏽

 

[Drcool]

Thanks for the translation!

 

[Mededwa]

I doubt she will betray him but if she does bro is killing himself

 

[Stardarkdust]

I'm gonna die from diabetes because this chapter was so sweet <33

 

[dreadedsoarer87]

WOOOOOOO