When we have story with heavy fanservice like Mato Seihei no Slave, Highschool DxD and Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete who also have decent story, there is no reason to think that trash like this is "normal" for a fanservice heavy manga.
In the first place, I'm not concerned about whether or not this is "normal". I never speak to that, in fact. I'm arguing that it's unabashedly what it is, and that it went above and beyond to telegraph what it was to the reader.
You're not winning me with those examples, either-- I follow Mato Seihei no Slave mostly out of inertia, I never really cared about Highschool DxD one way or the other, and I dropped Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete very early on. I didn't and haven't found any of their narratives to be more than functional.
But as far as I can tell, they're also unapologetically what they are. They're not trying to be something that they're failing at.
It's also reductive to lump all these works together under the category of "fanservice heavy", as if that's the core of each of the manga at hand, or as if the value of a work is relative to other works. It's not, and it isn't. Most pertinently, the core of
this manga is the common (and I
only mean
"common", if you don't fall under this generalization, then congratulations) male fantasy of performing a heroic deed and being rewarded for it with the intense and unambiguous affection of multiple women.
You know what? Fair enough, I overdid it.
I wouldn't say it was totally uncalled for--
Why are you trying to justify yourself? The problem wasn't that you called me stupid in varying ways, it's that you called me stupid in varying ways
and then accused me of being "defensive" about something I was never arguing about.
There were still a half million possible ways to handle it FAR better
I'm sure that you have half a million possible ideas for how this story could better suit your palate.
Why should anybody else care, though? Why should I care? Why should anybody that (somehow) finds deep value in this narrative care? Why should the author care? This story could have met the standards of the author and the wants of his intended audience
perfectly. The author could have executed his vision perfectly. At that point, why would your ideas for improvement be relevant to them?
Those aren't rhetorical questions.
To be clear: I'm
not arguing that your opinion is equal to everyone else's. I'm arguing that your opinions don't have
inherent relevance or value to anyone else but you for as long as you don't demonstrate that they should. Merely stating what are ultimately your preferences-- without establishing why they are/should be relevant or valuable to others-- isn't sufficient.
This is a point that I already made in my precedent comment and that was summarized in my example about porn.
The one sentence you incidentally chose to omit in your reply.
That wasn't an "example", that was just a statement, and it was attached to another statement that I
did address by pointing out that it was never an argument of mine.
without changing what it is at its very core ("spicy wish fulfillment" + "side dish of yandere vibes").
The "yandere" isn't just a "side dish", and it's not just "vibes", either-- it's a critical aspect of the very wish fulfillment this story peddles, and it's part of the intended "sexy appeal". Myon is seemingly a yandere wish-fulfillment peddler.
And yes, if you think all ecchi series are equal and no one has any right to comment on how they may fluctuate in quality
Did I say or imply this? No, I didn't. I've implied at least once that I don't care for the story, myself.
What I've been mocking you for, is the inappropriate application of standards to a story that doesn't merit them, that never once implicitly asks to be taken for more than its somewhat peculiar wish fulfillment. For this work in particular, the standards are solely "how much do you wish you were this guy", and the privilege to consider that is gated by whether you want obsessive and mentally unbalanced women lusting after you.
I've expressed this directly and with so many analogies. That's at the heart of the "Berserk" jab.
It matters because it didn't exactly took me ages to reach a conclusion.
It "took me 8 chapters" to comment on it because I binged these 8 chapters today, in minutes, right before commenting.
Right. You went through eight chapters of this story that telegraphed its substance and seriousness level in the first chapter.
