Otomege Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu - Ch. 64 - Reality of the Kingdom

[greatninja3]

OK...this was the single silliest excuse for having a woman supremacy(if not tyranny) centric kingdom...
It explained nothing other than the "reason".
But not, why the men, who obviously constitute most in not the entirety of the workforce, the military and merchant power, took the creation of such a caste system where they are at the bottom without fighting back?

If nothing else instituting such a system would be a surefire way to destroy the kingdom in many ways.

A) Not only nobles but commoners as well were greatly affected, that in and by itself are grounds for a good old revolution followed by having each and every member of the royal family visit the guillotine(or whatever other method they use in that world).

B) It would all but ensure that wealthy merchants and other wealthy individuals would cut ties from the kingdom and leave before their wealth becomes property of a woman whom they are forced to marry.

C) It would also ensure that an and all capable men would leave the kingdom for places where their talents would be rewarded, instead of them being turned into essentially slaves for women who live off lavishly from the results of the male hard labor.

D) It would kill any and all motivation for productivity. What's the point of being productive, when in the end all your hard work's earnings will go to a random woman who does nothing all day but literally fuck around with her boy-toy slaves, who technically might even outrank you.


And for those who will say "well Nobles of antiquity were the same", well no, it was a class system but the nobles made sure to have the military power(a well rewarded military power) to suppress the lower classes, in this manga world, the lower classes ARE the military power AND are treated as such.
Yet they keep taking it...it's ridiculous.

this has happen in real life just look at Sparta

what this fantasy setting might have look dumb but legit this is how Sparta worked.

 

[Skyblue454]

But it turns out they can't even start up said ship... without true love (lol)
The first king who started this plan must have been a genius, and so are the following kings

Spoiler: They did not use "True Love" it was all thanks to the 1st or 2nd saintess power.

Similar to Olivia stopping Luxion's mini robot when they attack the pirates.

 

[motheblackcat]

So it goes "We the royals gave all the privileges to the woman to push them to live luxurious life with multiple husbands and sex slaves to lower the powers of the nobles and now it went so far we can't turn back"?
No wonder they're fucked heh, also damn what over stupid thing did Julius got into...

 

[NotSomeone]

The slow part is important.
...

I understand it, the boiling frog thing.
But it's still strange the lack of backlash and revolutions.
Remember that it is par for the course in a kingdom for nobles to kill and make alliances with eachother in bouts of power.
Heck, in some empires the kingdoms that made part of said empire would go to war with eachother.
The women here are a class not much different than the emperor of Japan back then (~1200 - 1870). He held importance, sure. But all of the power was in the hand of the Shogun, they had the land and the army, so they were the de-facto rulers.
Thats what important, in a feudal setting money is not all that important, whats important is having land to produce, and men to fight. You can't do much without a big stick to wave around.

That's why there are no records of a real Matriarchal society existing at large, and those who were theorised to exist in small scale, quickly turned to patriarchal systems really quick, violence and war...

I am not saying that the plan should have failed, the kingdom is backing it up and they have this universe's version of a nuke, but there being no uprisings, no civil wars, nothing of the sort when men are holding the guns and the means of production, just feels silly.

 

[Fitew]

So it goes "We the royals gave all the privileges to the woman to push them to live luxurious life with multiple husbands and sex slaves to lower the powers of the nobles and now it went so far we can't turn back"?
No wonder they're fucked heh, also damn what over stupid thing did Julius got into...

With the stupid shit he got so far is enough for his mom to try and get someone to set him straight.

The ones planning this didn't really think about how they kinda created a group ready to go full "Invaders this way" group among the important forces, or that they'd need what amounts to Superman coming in to save the day for the country to not fall apart.

 

[rluka]

Thats what important, in a feudal setting money is not all that important, whats important is having land to produce, and men to fight. You can't do much without a big stick to wave around.

It could be the other part of the plan.
The author separately explained that the academy also successfully shows the young nobilities the difference in power and push into their head how standing against the kingdom is a vain attempt.
This could also kills off ambition and leave pleasing the ladies as the only alternative to compete.

My thought besides that is, if their society treats those who try to raise a rebellion as dissidents.
It’s like a form of social pressure, like being threatened of being cancelled. The kingdom was in this, so they would have plants to steer public opinion into their favour.
Nobles who try to turn things around could be criticised by their peers for being brute and unrespecting to women. Attempts to rise arms could be treated as reason to rally other nobles and the kingdom’s force to destroy the “evil”.

Of course, fictions and motivational story gives us a lot of story about amazing people who is so amazing they have bargaining power against the society. But in reality, not many have that kind of power, and eventually they will hit wall for one last time and unable to stand back anymore if the society refuse, or too afraid to be associated with them because of the stigma.

Especially in the earlier time when the male discrimination is not as bad yet. What passed down is just that you got more to lose from trying to change things, and most people are not ready to take that risk.

Unrelated, I think the modern effective way to stop population from fighting back is not by taking away their means to fight back, but to make them feel they got more to lose from trying to stir the calm waters; and give them enough to not reach the “nothing to lose” position.

 

[Beraudo]

About time we went back to focus on the real best girl.

 

[thunderer1000v]

I still can't forgive what the author did to principality, he made the principality and the black girl so naive and still make principality end up in slavery. We all know slavery is an option for a war crime but at least don't force the black girl to be that naive, the author makes her look so dumb to even think about surrender after all she did, this is not fair, they deserve a lower punishment and a happier end.

 

[R2D2TS]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[Someone011]

this has happen in real life just look at Sparta

what this fantasy setting might have look dumb but legit this is how Sparta worked.

Dude...you obviously don't know the first thing about spartan history.
Women in sparta were respected as mothers, wives and daughters.
They would have way more freedom than their contemporary women in other Greek city-states.
They were considered equal to men, but not above them, and by no means ruled over them.
Furthermore women in ancient sparta could make their own business and were actually working for the household in many ways but first and foremost by fulfilling their role of being mothers. They were not just sitting back there enjoying a lavish lifestyle at the expense of their men while doing nothing.
They were responsible for running the farms, operating businesses when their men were away at war.
Those who ended up being land/business owners were usually those who were widowed because their husband died at war.

So all in all no, Sparta of all places have nothing to do with how this manga world worked.

 

[Carn109]

JULIUS YOU TWAT

 

[greatninja3]

Dude...you obviously don't know the first thing about spartan history.
Women in sparta were respected as mothers, wives and daughters.
They would have way more freedom than their contemporary women in other Greek city-states.
They were considered equal to men, but not above them, and by no means ruled over them.
Furthermore women in ancient sparta could make their own business and were actually working for the household in many ways but first and foremost by fulfilling their role of being mothers. They were not just sitting back there enjoying a lavish lifestyle at the expense of their men while doing nothing.
They were responsible for running the farms, operating businesses when their men were away at war.
Those who ended up being land/business owners were usually those who were widowed because their husband died at war.

So all in all no, Sparta of all places have nothing to do with how this manga world worked.

that was the idea even in this world.

yet again sparta shat itself to death all their fear of being destroyed by revolution from their slaves or from other greek nations but really it's from the inside

all you are saying are the idealized sparta in reality several woman only wanted greed if your statement is true why is sparta just a tiny village like some indigenous tribe when rome set foot in greek if those women did their job as a mother I doubt sparta will shat itself to death

 

[Someone011]

that was the idea even in this world.

yet again sparta shat itself to death all their fear of being destroyed by revolution from their slaves or from other greek nations but really it's from the inside

all you are saying are the idealized sparta in reality several woman only wanted greed if your statement is true why is sparta just a tiny village like some indigenous tribe when rome set foot in greek if those women did their job as a mother I doubt sparta will shat itself to death

For starters, you sentences here are next to incoherent, so I'll answer as best as I can depending on what I can extrapolate.

Sparta was not "some tiny village" as you say it was one of the four largest city states in ancient Greece.
But even so, a city state is BY FAR smaller than an entire empire like Rome was who could draft soldiers from many of their provinces, if you fail to realize that a city-state is not a country as large like Rome was, then that's a failing on your end.
And again the women of Sparta did the job excellently as mothers, but there is only so many children a number of women can have. And having a woman from a city-state like sparta who almost never had more population than 24000(and only about 9000 of them were full citizens) produce enough babies to combat ancient Rome's who had almost 8.3 times that at 200000(at the time they invaded Greece).

Anyway, as I said you are very wrong and your knowledge of history leaves much to be desired. SO please don't cite false history you have no real knowledge about.
Especially when that is my own country's history.

 

[greatninja3]

For starters, you sentences here are next to incoherent, so I'll answer as best as I can depending on what I can extrapolate.

Sparta was not "some tiny village" as you say it was one of the four largest city states in ancient Greece.
But even so, a city state is BY FAR smaller than an entire empire like Rome was who could draft soldiers from many of their provinces, if you fail to realize that a city-state is not a country as large like Rome was, then that's a failing on your end.
And again the women of Sparta did the job excellently as mothers, but there is only so many children a number of women can have. And having a woman from a city-state like sparta who almost never had more population than 24000(and only about 9000 of them were full citizens) produce enough babies to combat ancient Rome's who had almost 8.3 times that at 200000(at the time they invaded Greece).

Anyway, as I said you are very wrong and your knowledge of history leaves much to be desired. SO please don't cite false history you have no real knowledge about.
Especially when that is my own country's history.

me when I don't know sparta shrank too just the city and only had like max 700 of soldiers by the time they met the romans maybe part of it is the fact powerful rich family practically owned the country and any reform to help them gets shut down by said rich family who are obviously headed by the mother cause if you are a smart female you'd marry a rich spartan men let him die get his money maybe make your daughter do the same and keep getting rich.

don't worry even Japan's citizen don't know certain part of their history they don't teach those part sometimes

 

[CyanHide]

I wanted more shenanigans after victory. Like rubbing it in someone’s face. Oh well!

Yeah, MC can't catch a fucking break in Fujoshiland. Taking pride in surviving well would've been nice but now he has to be called back into action.

 

[CyanHide]

OK...this was the single silliest excuse for having a woman supremacy(if not tyranny) centric kingdom...
It explained nothing other than the "reason".
But not, why the men, who obviously constitute most in not the entirety of the workforce, the military and merchant power, took the creation of such a caste system where they are at the bottom without fighting back?

If nothing else instituting such a system would be a surefire way to destroy the kingdom in many ways.

A) Not only nobles but commoners as well were greatly affected, that in and by itself are grounds for a good old revolution followed by having each and every member of the royal family visit the guillotine(or whatever other method they use in that world).

B) It would all but ensure that wealthy merchants and other wealthy individuals would cut ties from the kingdom and leave before their wealth becomes property of a woman whom they are forced to marry.

C) It would also ensure that an and all capable men would leave the kingdom for places where their talents would be rewarded, instead of them being turned into essentially slaves for women who live off lavishly from the results of the male hard labor.

D) It would kill any and all motivation for productivity. What's the point of being productive, when in the end all your hard work's earnings will go to a random woman who does nothing all day but literally fuck around with her boy-toy slaves, who technically might even outrank you.


And for those who will say "well Nobles of antiquity were the same", well no, it was a class system but the nobles made sure to have the military power(a well rewarded military power) to suppress the lower classes, in this manga world, the lower classes ARE the military power AND are treated as such.
Yet they keep taking it...it's ridiculous.

You forget that this took place over generations. It's the slow-boiling crab problem, the situation worsened slowly enough for things to seem normal, and all the right people noticed too late to effectively do anything to the status quo.

 

[dsfargeg]

I still can't forgive what the author did to principality, he made the principality and the black girl so naive and still make principality end up in slavery. We all know slavery is an option for a war crime but at least don't force the black girl to be that naive, the author makes her look so dumb to even think about surrender after all she did, this is not fair, they deserve a lower punishment and a happier end.

I disagree, she should be executed instead.

 

[Someone011]

You forget that this took place over generations. It's the slow-boiling crab problem, the situation worsened slowly enough for things to seem normal, and all the right people noticed too late to effectively do anything to the status quo.

The "slow-boil crab" doesn't really "fit" the bill.
We've seen that in human societies people refuse to "acclimate" when the conditions put them on the spot.
We've seen it with revolutions all the time. Nobles could only get away with living lavish lives and being tyrannical towards commoners only so much before it was guillotine o'clock.
And even with that it worked because the nobles had the arms to fend off unruly subjects and at the very least acted in politics and ruling.

Now in the manga world, we are talking about a bunch of people who produce, nothing, no work and no services and only consume.
At that point, there is no relative acclimation.
We've seen with MC's father, he and his men are working the fields all day, his wife comes in, takes the lion's share of the crops and money then berates him and demands even more all while she keeps her male sex slaves in tow. If her behavior is indicative of how women are in this world(and if you take a look at MC's sisters and how entitled they are, you know that's how it is) then there is no reason for the men not to at least TRY to take control, they have next to nothing to lose at this point.

 

[maruftim]

back to babysitting....

 

[thunderer1000v]

I disagree, she should be executed instead.

Like i said, if the event didnt end like that ill take whatever punishment the author can think of, but it ends with unreasonable wholesomeness, so she deserve to end in wholesomeness as well, tho since its already end this way i would rather have her executed than her to be a slave.