Please Bully Me, Miss Villainess! - Vol. 7 Ch. 101 - Two Daughters

[Kaguya-Sama]

Given that their society still has a feudal government and values class-based discrimination, I think the best our protagonists can hope for is something like this.

Or you know they could always abandon human and become Demon citizen... After all, they personally know the demon lord

 

[solamente]

yuri authors butting heads with the social limitations of feudalism will never cease to be funny

 

[QueenEtna]

Get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant

 

[PhoenixQNebula]

I FUCKING CALLED IT. I commented on an earlier chapter something to the effect of "Unless explicitly stated otherwise, I'm going to assume that there is a magical way to for two women to have children," and I was right!

 

[ErikTheRed]

So my point sailed right past you. Sometimes you need to let go of your prejudice long enough to recognize that the other person is not saying what you are assuming they are saying.

And my point sailed past you. Adjusting to the rules of a heteronormal society is still adjusting to that society, without fundamentally altering the unequal pillars that societys rule stand on.

 

[Fushiginiku]

And my point sailed past you. Adjusting to the rules of a heteronormal society is still adjusting to that society, without fundamentally altering the unequal pillars that societys rule stand on.

Nope, I understood the point you thought you were making just fine. You're just wrong. You can't 'alter the unequal pillars' without taking steps to undo the thinking that holds them up. You aren't trying to undo anything. You're just trying to brush aside the beliefs of the opposing side. That will never work.

 

[Lowfyie]

Just give the dad some time, hed be beating the shit out of Yvonne's partner right now if it was Elsa

 

[Lowfyie]

Also, Lesbians can want to have kids, so can gays, I dont think its following the rules of a heteronormal society as much as it is just a way to further one's love by creating life

 

[hjm44632]

The father is gross, they haven't even talked about kids. They should just say that they'll be together with or without his blessing.

 

[solamente]

Also, Lesbians can want to have kids, so can gays, I dont think its following the rules of a heteronormal society as much as it is just a way to further one's love by creating life

Its interesting that nowadays we can talk about having kids as being a "want", like wanting ice cream or wanting to go to italy. did ppl prior to the 20th century do this, or was it simply assumed to be a social obligation in addition to a familial one? Or for that matter, do women living in kenya or somalia discuss children as being a hobby project of their love for their husbands, or is it that having children is an economic necessity for them?

in interviews i keep seeing them tacitly assume their sons will become labourers & support them in old age. and that their daughters can be married off in exchange for a dowry. They dont seem to see their children as being a sort of hobby project with their husband or an expression of love. maybe what we have rn (the assumption that we are essentially free to choose who we marry) is just historically weird and aberrant which is the source of the confusion here

 

[Lowfyie]

Its interesting that nowadays we can talk about having kids as being a "want", like wanting ice cream or wanting to go to italy. did ppl prior to the 20th century do this, or was it simply assumed to be a social obligation in addition to a familial one? Or for that matter, do women living in kenya or somalia discuss children as being a hobby project of their love for their husbands, or is it that having children is an economic necessity for them?

in interviews i keep seeing them tacitly assume their sons will become labourers & support them in old age. and that their daughters can be married off in exchange for a dowry. They dont seem to see their children as being a sort of hobby project with their husband or an expression of love. maybe what we have rn (the assumption that we are essentially free to choose who we marry) is just historically weird and aberrant which is the source of the confusion here

Yeah I think youre right, its a shame that a system which prioritizes seeing children as simply offspring and opportunity to make more assets has always been more common than just having a kid with someone you love - like in medieval times when royalty would make their kids marry other royal's kids simply to maintain a status

But with same sex couples nowadays it really is essentially just affection based since its already frowned upon by more conservative folk (the kind that sees their children as just "offspring") and they cant have traditional children without assisting methods. Then I feel like it really is easier to assume it as just a love thing instead of a responsibility thing

 

[TanyaTheEvil]

That was such an awesome chapter and the message at the end from author was great. Thanks for the translation

 

[Manchura]

sesbian lex babies inbound

they'll have 40, I know it

 

[Manchura]

Its interesting that nowadays we can talk about having kids as being a "want", like wanting ice cream or wanting to go to italy. did ppl prior to the 20th century do this, or was it simply assumed to be a social obligation in addition to a familial one? Or for that matter, do women living in kenya or somalia discuss children as being a hobby project of their love for their husbands, or is it that having children is an economic necessity for them?

in interviews i keep seeing them tacitly assume their sons will become labourers & support them in old age. and that their daughters can be married off in exchange for a dowry. They dont seem to see their children as being a sort of hobby project with their husband or an expression of love. maybe what we have rn (the assumption that we are essentially free to choose who we marry) is just historically weird and aberrant which is the source of the confusion here

there is only 12.5% human exclusive brain mass in a human brain so across most of time humanity has acted on animal instinct and even with that 12.5% we humans have used it to aid the rest of the brain in functioning for most of our time on this planet and still do to this day when individuals cant guarantee food and water security. As such it's not that parents in poorer areas have less love for their kids because of the desired outcome are not aligned with a very liberal "individuals who want to be a vice should be free to be a vice" mentality that you see in the west.

the outcome of seeing their boys not starve because they can work while their daughters don't have to brave the world alone IS love to people who don't have food or water security like the developed world and they value that highly... it's why parents in those regions also talk about kids taking care of them when they are older, they cant get any resources themselves anymore and it's love to give those things to those people

Yeah I think youre right, its a shame that a system which prioritizes seeing children as simply offspring and opportunity to make more assets has always been more common than just having a kid with someone you love - like in medieval times when royalty would make their kids marry other royal's kids simply to maintain a status

But with same sex couples nowadays it really is essentially just affection based since its already frowned upon by more conservative folk (the kind that sees their children as just "offspring") and they cant have traditional children without assisting methods. Then I feel like it really is easier to assume it as just a love thing instead of a responsibility thing

as for you, no, if royals merely married off kids to maintain a status there would not be many, many, MANY cases of forced marriage throughout the ages and you see this if you read into antiquity on how many royals didn't marry their daughters off willingly they simply gave them up after a war or under threat of war. You see it decline as history goes on and like many things the modern version is an oddity that runs against the grain of nature like the "medieval" (AGE OF EXPLORATION and beyond, you mean) part of royalty's history

same sex couples run on the same logic the rest of us do, they are just unreproductive with the outcomes, their base instincts that create the concept of love ARE demanding kids it's just crossed wiring that led them to feel that urge for the same sex and you can see this in other animals as well.

also trying to dig at conservatives by using an example of African family social structure as a morally objectionable state kind of sounds... anyways, it's not utilitarianism son, just because people like family structures that promote kids and resource security does not mean they never feel any love and are heartless... that's a socialist education speaking

 

[solamente]

there is only 12.5% human exclusive brain mass in a human brain so across most of time humanity has acted on animal instinct and even with that 12.5% we humans have used it to aid the rest of the brain in functioning for most of our time on this planet and still do to this day when individuals cant guarantee food and water security. As such it's not that parents in poorer areas have less love for their kids because of the desired outcome are not aligned with a very liberal "individuals who want to be a vice should be free to be a vice" mentality that you see in the west.

the outcome of seeing their boys not starve because they can work while their daughters don't have to brave the world alone IS love to people who don't have food or water security like the developed world and they value that highly... it's why parents in those regions also talk about kids taking care of them when they are older, they cant get any resources themselves anymore and it's love to give those things to those people


as for you, no, if royals merely married off kids to maintain a status there would not be many, many, MANY cases of forced marriage throughout the ages and you see this if you read into antiquity on how many royals didn't marry their daughters off willingly they simply gave them up after a war or under threat of war. You see it decline as history goes on and like many things the modern version is an oddity that runs against the grain of nature like the "medieval" (AGE OF EXPLORATION and beyond, you mean) part of royalty's history

same sex couples run on the same logic the rest of us do, they are just unreproductive with the outcomes, their base instincts that create the concept of love ARE demanding kids it's just crossed wiring that led them to feel that urge for the same sex and you can see this in other animals as well.

also trying to dig at conservatives by using an example of African family social structure as a morally objectionable state kind of sounds... anyways, it's not utilitarianism son, just because people like family structures that promote kids and resource security does not mean they never feel any love and are heartless... that's a socialist education speaking

ok i didnt read that but it sounds like u went to some trouble typing it up so tldr it? im reading exorcist reina rn and its getting good

 

[Manchura]

ok i didnt read that but it sounds like u went to some trouble typing it up so tldr it? im reading exorcist reina rn and its getting good

tldr: when you cant get food and water easy, the best gift it food and water so that's why they view having their boys be able to secure it themselves while their daughters can get it without work is the best show of love to the impoverished

 

[solamente]

tldr: when you cant get food and water easy, the best gift it food and water so that's why they view having their boys be able to secure it themselves while their daughters can get it without work is the best show of love to the impoverished

yeah i mean ok i think we're on the same page here but isn't that a pretty uncontroversial premise? anyway im not super interested in this particular line of discussion but im sure someone else would be willing to play devil's advocate with you

 

[bregas]

sutanari fex

 

[weleasewodger]

Damn ,now I'm shopping mom and Elsa

 

[yeetumsprime]

Mom in a witch's hat and round glasses is PEAK CHARACTER DESIGN