Raise Nante Nai Kara - Ch. 1

[SHTJ]

I mean, I feel like this is a lot more than just crossdressing. They mentioned wanting to be a girl, then were absent for 6 months, it's very likely they at least partially transitioned during that time. I'm curious then, if they transitioned, if we're not going to erase their gender identity, then this isn't BL or Crossdressing right? Like, is it or isn't it? Because if you recognize their choice as valid, they are now a full on girl, which means it's a straight relationship now, even if one of them is AMAB. Not saying that people HAVE to personally accept their own attraction to someone who has transitioned, everyone has their personal tastes after all, but if the other friend does then as far as they are both concerned there is nothing about being gay to do with their relationship.

That's a valid reading, but as nothing's confirmed it's still up in the air.

 

[SHTJ]

if you click on the 'Oneshot' it takes you directly to the pages without showing you the tags, I love oneshots so I always click, This thing however, Disgusting, For me at least.

It still shows you the scanlator group name. ElPsyKongroo and Danke fur Lessens already did a crapton of other crossdressing oneshots.

 

[Ultenth]

That's a valid reading, but as nothing's confirmed it's still up in the air.

Yeah, it's pretty uncommon in Manga, even twitter one-shots, to have a full on trans character. Which is why I'm surprised that this one actually seems to lean pretty heavily in that direction even if it absolutely leaves things open to interpretation somewhat. I think in part because I believe historically in Japan and other parts of Asia it's a lot more common for someone to just simply live like they are the other gender if that's what they feel they are. And a bit more accepted than in the west, so the whole concept of surgery and hormones to actually fully transition probably seems a bit superfluous and strange/new to them compared to just living as an Otokonoko. It's really only the 6 month gap that makes me lean hard in that direction, but I guess someone could excuse that as just time to let their hair grow out and do other things to pass in terms of learning about womens clothes and makeup etc., without necessitating surgery/hormones.

 

[AverageDudeWithAveragePenis]

I mean, I feel like this is a lot more than just crossdressing. They mentioned wanting to be a girl, then were absent for 6 months, it's very likely they at least partially transitioned during that time. I'm curious then, if they transitioned, if we're not going to erase their gender identity, then this isn't BL or Crossdressing right? Like, is it or isn't it? Because if you recognize their choice as valid, they are now a full on girl, which means it's a straight relationship now, even if one of them is AMAB. Not saying that people HAVE to personally accept their own attraction to someone who has transitioned, everyone has their personal tastes after all, but if the other friend does then as far as they are both concerned there is nothing about being gay to do with their relationship.

He didn't magically turn into a female y'know.

The relationship would still be classified as yaoi or shounen ai since both members are of the male sex.

The main reason he wants to be born a girl is because his crush doesn't at first appear to be interested in males, but it seems like he leans more into bisexuality from the conclusion of this story. He doesn't want to be a girl due to personal conflicts, but for someone else.

Also I knew someone would eventually say something like this, every time we got a character even mentioning wanting to be a girl in passing we got gender studies experts chiming in immediately assuming trans. When the situation requires more nuance. It's more complicated than that...

 

[ariel_haymarket]

if they transitioned, if we're not going to erase their gender identity, then this isn't BL or Crossdressing right?

Take it up with the people running this site, unfortunately.
As far as we know, the author also didn't clarify what happened, and DfL's and EPK's hands are collectively tied.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

if you click on the 'Oneshot' it takes you directly to the pages without showing you the tags, I love oneshots so I always click, This thing however, Disgusting, For me at least.

I'm going to call a spade a spade here and point out that you regularly do this kind of thing, especially with violent language. I know I'm one to talk, but maybe you should cool it or step away.

 

[Ultenth]

He didn't magically turn into a female y'know.

The relationship would still be classified as yaoi or shounen ai since both members are of the male sex.

The main reason he wants to be born a girl is because his crush doesn't at first appear to be interested in males, but it seems like he leans more into bisexuality from the conclusion of this story. He doesn't want to be a girl due to personal conflicts, but for someone else.

Also I knew someone would eventually say something like this, every time we got a character even mentioning wanting to be a girl in passing we got gender studies experts chiming in immediately assuming trans. When the situation requires more nuance. It's more complicated than that...

It's hilarious how you talk about things like gender and sex while conflating the two, and then talk about the situation being complicated and requiring more nuance, while at the same time showing a complete lack of understanding of the complexity and nuance of the situation.

Just to start with, your sex (what genitals and DNA you were born with), is not the same as your gender (whether you express yourself as masculine or feminine to yourself and others). Maybe do some research learning the most basic of basics when it comes to the discussion, before chiming in like you know anything at all about it.

Also, I thought I was pretty clear that it's definitely still very open-ended as to if they did anything like transitioning, or are just expressing themselves as a feminine gendered person but staying their assigned sex of male. Also, we don't know anything about the potentially many reasons they want to be a girl. They COULD be just doing it for this one partner (which is kinda sad), or they could be interested in this one partner as part of WHY they want to be a girl. Plenty of gay men get turned down because someone they are interested in doesn't like men, and only very few of them then go out and disappear for 6 months and come back presenting their gender as female. That doesn't mean they want or need to transition, but that also doesn't mean they didn't, and we don't know which is the case for this story.

My whole comment was if they DID (which again we don't know!), then it would no longer qualify as BL, because they would be by all accounts a girl, except for bigoted people like you that would probably try to still tell them that no matter what they are a man, like it's any of your decision/business.

 

[AverageDudeWithAveragePenis]

Just to start with, your sex (what genitals and DNA you were born with), is not the same as your gender (whether you express yourself as masculine or feminine to yourself and others). Maybe do some research learning the most basic of basics when it comes to the discussion, before chiming in like you know anything at all about it.

Being straight is a sexuality.

Gender has nothing to do with sex right?

So as I said, it would still be yaoi/shounen ai even if the character in question transitioned.

learning the most basic of basics

Basics of what? Biology? You clearly failed in that class.

Also;

He doesn't want to be a girl due to personal conflicts, but for someone else.

Did that fly over you? It has the same vibe as Ruka from stein's gate. He's not trans, just gay.

Or... Do you also think Ruka is trans? If so, I think YOU are the bigot here.

 

[abc003262202]

I mean, even if you despise gays, you should still admire how he (or she now?) was willing to become a girl for his crush

 

[ariel_haymarket]

I mean, even if you despise gays, you should still admire how he (or she now?) was willing to become a girl for his crush

I don't think he so much despises gay folks as did something few ostensibly heterosexual people do and check.

Unless you mean other parties.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

[pulled - not worth it]

 

[exxeld]

i respect that bro tried to see if he would be able to like dudes cuz he really did care for him

 

[Vomiy]

I mean, I feel like this is a lot more than just crossdressing. They mentioned wanting to be a girl, then were absent for 6 months, it's very likely they at least partially transitioned during that time. I'm curious then, if they transitioned, if we're not going to erase their gender identity, then this isn't BL or Crossdressing right? Like, is it or isn't it? Because if you recognize their choice as valid, they are now a full on girl, which means it's a straight relationship now, even if one of them is AMAB. Not saying that people HAVE to personally accept their own attraction to someone who has transitioned, everyone has their personal tastes after all, but if the other friend does then as far as they are both concerned there is nothing about being gay to do with their relationship.

There always has to be a retard like you in the comments

 

[Darcow]

Bros before hoes then your bro became a hoe just for you.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

i respect that bro tried to see if he would be able to like dudes cuz he really did care for him

Guy really went for New Game+ just to be sure and figured out what his hangups were.

 

[Ahmed142500]

I mean, I feel like this is a lot more than just crossdressing. They mentioned wanting to be a girl, then were absent for 6 months, it's very likely they at least partially transitioned during that time. I'm curious then, if they transitioned, if we're not going to erase their gender identity, then this isn't BL or Crossdressing right? Like, is it or isn't it? Because if you recognize their choice as valid, they are now a full on girl, which means it's a straight relationship now, even if one of them is AMAB. Not saying that people HAVE to personally accept their own attraction to someone who has transitioned, everyone has their personal tastes after all, but if the other friend does then as far as they are both concerned there is nothing about being gay to do with their relationship.

6 months isn't enough for a full transition.
Also, if he only partially transitioned then he is still a guy or atleast a transwomen so that tags here are needed... thats my opinion.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

6 months isn't enough for a full transition.
Also, if he only partially transitioned then he is still a guy or atleast a transwomen so that tags here are needed... thats my opinion.

Full? No. But ... also, that's not how transness works. Whether you transition "fully" or not, if you're trans, you're trans. Still, the confessing party felt something was worth trying and went for it and, given this being a one-shot, all we can do is guess.

In any case, this site needs more LGBT-friendly tags for certain, I would agree.

 

[ariel_haymarket]

slur

No need for that. We're all here for nice stories.

 

[saveme]

Hey what manga is this from? Asking for myself

 

[ariel_haymarket]

Hey what manga is this from? Asking for myself

shoot, I'll get back to you on this. I know it's by Waniwani Panic.

Here we go