Records of the Mystic Gardens - Ch. 62 - Accomplice's Sin

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@Legion_01 I def wasn't questioning what you thought about the series. However I feel like saying he's "dangerous to whoever crosses his path" is an exaggeration, he managed to live until his teens without ever being acknowledged for what he was or causing any major trouble, which should show just how likely he was to randomly break into violence. Regarding his uncle, I think his dialogue there shows that the reason he persuaded Zhan Hao's father not to remove the charm was more for the sake of him than for the sake of those around him. I'm 90% sure he even said something like "I didn't want Zhan Hao to live like those crazy ones." Which would make sense, no good uncle would want their nephew to live a life of solidarity and violence where they were likely to die young and with more people who cursed him than people who loved him.
 
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@Legion_01 "she is perfectly normal outside her obsession with the MC"

Come on now, she just cut a guy's arm because he was coming on to her like it was the most natural thing to do then proceeded to kill both him and the woman who came to his defense...
She's crazy
 
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@jazz9 if a guy who you knew was a rapist that was likely to manipulate you and eventually turn you into a pill to eat and grow stronger came on to you, would your reaction be much better?
 
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The point is she cut his arm without even realizing it.
Her first instinct was to cut the guy's arm because she felt "disgusted" even though she planned not to do anything for a while.
She's crazy
 
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below me resides an argument going in circles
but ye i was like dam them thighs
and as chapters pass i like her less n less
 
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As you should but would you instinctively stab/shoot/etc that person?
Honestly I'm pretty sure she would also cut some random guy's arm should he tap her on the shoulder to ask for directions...
 
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She really didn't need to kill the girl. The girl was defenseless and even if she had the courage to seek vengeance in the future there is no way that she would be strong enough to kill the fmc. It was wanton and excessive, but thats the whole point. Her mind has already been poisoned by the "law of the jungle" mindset.

Also she thinks shes smart but she isnt really. Joining that trashy sect was a very dumb decision. Typically in cultivation novels the justification for joining a sect is twofold, one you gain access to cultivation resources and techniques and second you get the protection of the senior members of the sect. Its pretty clear that these outlaw sects are both poor and unsafe, so why in the world would you join one?
 
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@jazz9 He was notorious for killing girls and turning them into pills for his own cultivation. She knew it would be her turn soon and in a dog-eat-dog world like that of the ones who cultivate the mystic instead of the saint garden was a proper reaction, imo. It wasn't a matter of if, but only when he would have attacked her. As for the girl, she had no probs helping the guy that she knew would have killed the FMC, so it was proper for the FMC to return the favor in kind.
 
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@Atmosk didn't you hear what she said, the girl deserves to die because she was in accomplice in the actions of the other dude, plus, in her mind she'd already justified it since she's an obvious threat to the MC, and we know how obsessed she is with him.
 
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@Blastronaught12 I dont really buy that she could go after the MC or his family. Hes a cop and lives in a fortified compound, it would be suicide to go after him. From the sounds of it, his family aren't pushovers either and would probably slaughter her if she stepped on their doormat.
 
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@Atmosk You say that like there's any merit to her sparing her. There isn't; not legally and definitely not morally. She truly doesn't give a shit about tricking, murdering, or mindfucking anyone, just as nobody else in that sect should. It would have broken character for her to do anything else and been a really poor survival strategy in an environment that doesn't reward that type of behavior at all, not to mention that the beheaded chick wronged her target of obsession which is just fully unforgivable for a yandere. She's a ruthless cunt, and she's in love with the MC because he's also a ruthless cunt. That's the kind of manhua we're in right now.

That said, I'm also not fully clear on why she joined that sect. It might be because she wanted to do the illegal type of garden that pulls other people in and possibly kills them, or more likely that she was already cultivating it, and now that she survived a garden she was obligated to report to the authorities who would've detected it so she had to skedaddle and settle down in the first safe haven she found on account of the pigs in the city and the bogeymen out in the wasteland. Don't quote me on it though.
 
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@twinklecake I think her being a yandere is a small factor in her decision. Its more her wanting to emulate her master and the MC. That does fall in line with her character, I just dont agree with her choice. What merit is there in killing her? Shes not accomplishing anything by killing this weakling, so shes just being cruel for cruelness sake. If you want to say, "well shes an evil criminal so she deserves death!" then doesn't that apply to basically everyone in the wasteland? If she cared about justice she would have joined the police not an evil sect. I think this was intentionally set up by the author as an example of her slowly sliding towards becoming evil. The only reason I even bother to point out that her action is morally unhinged at all is that some readers forget that killing a defenseless opponent is supposed to be a bad thing to do.
 
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@Atmosk >slowly sliding towards becoming evil

She literally mindfucked her favorite person, stabbed a hand to make a point, chopped off an arm out of casual disgust and disregard for life, emulated the sociopathic tendencies of her former master who she tried to steal techniques from, played accomplice to the actual protagonist's multiple and completely ruthless acts of murder, and you're still going on about a slide?

She is and has from the beginning been fully evil, sitting very, very close to the moral event horizon with no signs of redemption. The MC too. None of what you consider bad are bad things in this universe. The rules of any given fiction depend on the author and this is clearly one in which nobody really thrives, ever, by being a good guy, so following your advice would be objectively a dumb thing to do.

It doesn't matter if an opponent represents a small threat because that's still a threat, so it should be removed, with the added reason that not killing her would mean Tao Hua comes across as weak in a place where ruthlessness holds merit. I've also made plenty clear why she'd personally gain satisfaction from killing her, so I still don't see why it's so hard for you to accept how much merit there is in just chopping her head off and removing a bad variable from the equation while attaining some vindication in the process.

Matter of fact, since she's an enemy, the burden falls on you to prove there's merit in sparing her from where I'm standing. Actual merit, instead of your personal ideas which are clearly not held by Tao Hua or otherwise relevant to this particular manhua in any way. Nobody here cares about the sanctity of life, some arbitrary sense of justice, or something as counterproductive to survival as fairness or honor. This is what her character has been established as and what we've come to like her for, and it's clearly what should keep happening.

At some point you gotta realize the difference between valid criticism and opinionatedness. Don't read NTR stories if you're angered by adultery, and don't read amoralistic stories if you can't enjoy a bitch being ice fucking cold.
 
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Mindfucked isnt really accurate. From how I interpreted the uncles speech it seems like the charm spell isn't really harmful to the MC. Shes been haughty and arrogant for awhile now but has done very little that I would consider evil.

The rules of any given fiction depend on the author and this is clearly one in which nobody really thrives, ever, by being a good guy, so following your advice would be objectively a dumb thing to do.

That would be true in alot of cultivator fiction, but it seems pretty obvious here that this world has a functioning government, police and law and order. This is clearly not a "kill or be killed law of the jungle" world like so many other cultivator novels. It seems like within the city atleast, society functions basically as our own does. I think your pulling in the assumptions common within the genre without really considering how big of a divergence this is from other typical cultivation stories. In something like renegade immortal it makes sense for wang lin to finish off his opponents because there are no laws or society in place. The only thing that will prevent you from being robbed or murdered by others is strength or reputation. It is considered common sense in those stories that the strong can do whatever they want to those weaker then them (although to a degree its seen as a loss of face for members of the senior generation to bully member of the junior generation). Thats clearly not the case here however since it seems like 99% of people don't even know about the existence of mystic gardens and even those who do are under the regulations of the paranormal patrol pavillion. Despite being supposedly more powerful then the saint garden cultivators, they are hiding in fear of the PPP and to make matters worse they are at a much higher risk of losing control then the saint garden practitioners. These roguish mystic garden cultivators seem to be the only ones really suffering in this world.
 
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Lol. her level of hypocrisy is on pat with zhan hao's. They're a match made in heaven
I don't think he's hypocritical, just straight up insane.
She's very arrogant, makes sense she'd sound hypocritical when trying to "care" (obsession isn't caring) for mc.
You could say he is naive at first, then ruthless, but I don't really see why hypocritical.
 
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