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It's better to not have upvote since that way people can use their own opinions to decide what's right and wrong.
Upvote systems like in reddit create a circle-jerking ecosystem... makes people follow others instead of trying to think by themselves.
 
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Meanwhile, people are really innovative with the reacts on Discord :p

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"Except in this case please make the dislike functional by having an x amount of dislikes as the limit before said comment is auto-deleted."
Disgusting.
 
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There are many times that I would like to express friendly agreement without making a separate comment.

However, I'm sure that, whenever a disagreement developed, Likes and Dislikes would be ways of effecting low-cost pile-ons. Pile-ons have been a perverse feature of the 'Net since the days of Usenet, before there was even a WWWeb, and they characterize Mangadex to the extent that they are facilitated.
 
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I'm in favor of a mechanism allowing people a couple of different sorting options for comments. If folks want to place a priority on which comments they see first, that's fine.

I am adamantly, absolutely ironclad against a comment voting system. A huge part of this community's relative civility (unless @Zephyrus is suddenly getting a lot more reports recently - are you?) is that there is as yet no easy method of forming tribes and the resulting internecine cold war that plagues so many other sites. If you want to find people who agree or disagree with you, there is no option to do so except hunting them down yourself.

If you came up with something creative that was utterly, completely disconnected from and made absolutely no addition to comments, you could maybe convince me to accept a user voting system where it is possible to give them a star or something.
 
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All things considered, MD is surprisingly civil. I think that's because from the start we've had very clear standards of conduct along with allowing readers a certain level of abrasiveness when they argue. Myself and @Daviot try to only step in when it gets pretty bad. So as far as reports go, I'd say it's actually pretty low.

I'm ok with some sort of system like Facebook but I'm personally against positive and negative marks on a post. It becomes a popularity contest and can lead to the formation of cliques. None of that would serve MD's users well.
 
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Please don't. Outside of chats or websites with a lot of quick comments, post rating systems are crap. They just promote dumb, disposable posts of people trying to collect as many "Likes" by reposting funny images, cause people to form annoying cliques and create mini-cults of personality where everyone without at least a hundred votes gets ignored. If you have something worthwhile to add, just say it.

MD forums aren't very fast either, making it a pretty pointless addition.
 
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Please don't make a rating system for comments... I just want to read manga in peace and do some retorts here and there and some occasional questions for when I'm baffled.
 
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I am adamantly, absolutely ironclad against a comment voting system. A huge part of this community's relative civility (unless @Zephyrus is suddenly getting a lot more reports recently - are you?) is that there is as yet no easy method of forming tribes and the resulting internecine cold war that plagues so many other sites. If you want to find people who agree or disagree with you, there is no option to do so except hunting them down yourself.

Y'know, Batoto had an upvote-only system for comments ("likes", not anonymous) and was roughly the same civility level as Mangadex, heck possibly slightly more civil on average (though I wouldn't attribute that to this, of course; see my final paragraphs).

Between that and just my gut feeling based on my own experiences with such systems, I'm semi-convinced that downvotes are really what make things toxic: With upvotes you can see who's winning in popular opinion, but in general it doesn't have the same flame-fanning effects as the "you suck" (downvote) button. Which makes intuitive sense—with a bunch of downvotes one feels the need to defend oneself against attack, whereas with just a lack-of-likes, one usually just feels a bit, well, ignored.

Having said that—the first difference between different sites' civility is usually the people on the site. Webtoons.com, as an example, has the upvote-and-downvote system but the site is full of friendly/touchy-feely/open-minded sorts and pretty much the only way to get downvote-bombed is to be sexist, racist, or homophobic (or just mean). Seeing a comment with any downvotes is rare. That's just a byproduct of the audience the site attracts, but, the audience a site attracts is affected by the community it has so this gets recursive quickly.

This site imported a bunch of Batoto's population so it has a good start; Batotonians were pretty civil on average by internet standards. Beyond that, it's pretty much up to the mods to nudge the site population subtly in a certain direction (e.g. rules that discourage shitpost-culture) to keep the existing community from succumbing to random noise and becoming, essentially, internet-average.
 
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I'd be onboard with some kind of reaction system.
I see how a like/dislike system can be abused and lead to unneeded conflict, but I often have found myself looking for a simple way to react to a comment, that I thought was witty/funny. Quoting that comment/adding the comment writer in a comment of my own and just writing "Haha" or "Cool" feels so cumbersome.
A reaction system, that Facebook or other sites are using, seems to be a good way to encourage user interaction.
 
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Methinks this needs a poll but either a like-only or fb-reaction-like system would be interesting.

But if we’re gonna do this i want the ahegao emoji lol
 
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We will add reactions like discord at some point.
 
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I'm not against a voting system per se, but when it comes to switching comments and altering the chronology then it gets really messy. Plus there's the whole thing with the quality of the post decreasing because some people just want to fish likes/reactions.
 

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