Remove the "Demographic" and "Genres" section from the description and add a "Categories" section.

[TotoroTheGreat]

I've noticed that the demographic tag is provided for lot of series, even those that don't originally have one. Which means that for series that don't have a demographic tag, people base it on the content of the manga. It is known that the current usage of demographic tags in Japan are not really content based, but rather magazine based. Having the demographic of some manga based on the magazine, while others based on the content is kind of inconsistent. Not to mention, many magazines don't have a demographic tag at all even in Japan. Many manga that are not published in a magazine or in a magazine without a demographic tag shouldn't have one. The overall practice of using demographic tags is outdated and inconsistent as well.

A few examples of inconsistencies would be :
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[li]relife - Tagged as a seinen. Kakao 79% and Bocchan to Maid is from the same platform but has been tagged as a shoujo. The original platform doesn't have a tag aside from webcomic. [/li]
[li]Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami - Tagged as a josei, but Kenja no Mago and Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? which are from the same platform are tagged as seinen. Originally, the platform doesn't have a demographic tag associated with it. [/li]
[li]Every manhua and manhwa that has a Japanese demographic tag shouldn't have it since the Japanese tags wouldn't apply there.[/li]
[/ul]
Suggestions :
[ul]
[li] Rename the "genres" section to "Categories", since a lot of the tags there are often not genres. [/li]
[li]Remove the "demographic" section completely. A series' demographic, if it has one, can go into the Categories section. [/li]

 

[ununseti]

The target demographic of a manga series is a very broad and limited way of classifying manga into a very small number of buckets, but it still seems to be a very prevalent way of talking about manga (sort of like Hogwarts houses, I guess), so I think it'll probably stick around in some fashion.

I'm not sure how I feel about merging the demographics back into genres (I believe it was that way originally). I don't know if it'll make any difference or not.

That being said, I agree that there are lots of series that don't fall under under of those four bucket demographics, so perhaps the upload UI could make that more clear: e.g. "Demographic is based on the magazine that it's published in, NOT the content. If the demographic isn't clear, leave this field blank!"

Because of course, there are manga have been moved around to different magazines that have different demographics, there are some magazines that have changed their target demographic, there are magazines out there that are neither shounen, seinen, shoujo, nor josei (e.g. yuri magazines, children's magazines), there are series that aren't even published in magazines (e.g. doujinshi, Pixiv/Twitter comics), and there are lots of series that aren't even manga (e.g. Korean or Chinese comics), so does it even really make sense to apply these demographic labels in these cases?

Some more example edge cases:
- Kagerou Days is either Shoujo, Shounen, or Josei, depending on who you ask. A possible source of confusion here is that it's published in Comic Gene, a magazine "intended to blur the line between shoujo and shounen manga", and one that markets itself as a "shounen manga magazine for female readers".
- Hayate x Blade was published in Dengeki Daioh but then was moved to Ultra Jump, so it is both Shounen and Seinen.
- Ebisu-san to Hotei-san is published in Tsubomi, a yuri magazine.
- Doraemon has been published in various Shogakukan kids magazines, including CoroCoro Comic.
- Kyon no Tea of Sagittarius is a doujinshi series that was released gradually over multiple Comikets.
- Shogi Senpai is a manga released on Twitter.
- The Descending Moon at the Foot of the Mountain is a webtoon serialized in Daum Webtoon, a publisher that, according to MU, apparently has Shounen, Shoujo, Josei, and Seinen series!

One suggestion that I'd like to push again is #25020: Add "Serialized in/Published in" info field on title page and form a Magazine DB with current and past titles published by that Magazine, which should make it easier/faster to check if a publisher has a clearly defined demographic or not.

One thing I'd like clarified: Does it make sense to apply Japanese demographics like "shounen", "shoujo" to non-Japanese works like manhua and manhwa?

Some comparisons wrt how other sites handle target demographics:
- MU puts the demographics like "Shounen", "Shoujo", "Josei", and "Seinen" with the other genre tags: https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?act=genresearch
- MAL also puts the demographics with the genres: https://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre
- A-P includes the demographics with the other genres and tags: https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags
- AL includes demographics with all the other tags, although its "advanced genre & tag filtering" search UI displays the tags under separate "genres", "demographics", "setting", "cast", "technical", or "theme" categories: https://anilist.co/search/manga
- Kitsu includes demographics with all the other categories, although its "advanced search" UI displays the categories under separate "content indicators", "dynamic", "elements", "setting", "target demographics", and "themes" groups: https://kitsu.io/manga
- ANN doesn't include the demographic at all; it only lists genres and themes: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/search/genre
- Wikipedia's animanga infobox has a demographics field in the Print part ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_animanga/Print ) and a genre field in the Header part ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_animanga/Header )