Saiaku no Avalon - Ch. 33 - The Secret Meeting at Midnight

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I really want this series to br good because of the art but damn the webnovel is hot garbo. Even though I like hot garbo I still wanna pluck my eyes whenever I read that thing
Because of the art?!??!

Damn, son, did you see the last page?

Look, he's fat so he's going to be bigger in some areas--waist, chest, neck, limbs, and anywhere where fat cells accumulate--but it doesn't make his bones bigger, right?

Now check out his head...it's frickin' massive. It's as big as her whole upper torso, including her bosom. Getting fat does not make your skull expand.

And even worse, look at the hands. The artist was even nice enough to put their fists side-by-side so you can see how ridiculously huge his hands are. Fat people don't add hardly any weight on their fingers, but that's not the worst part. Look at the first bone on each of their pinky fingers. Hers is closest to the camera and his is farthest from the camera. Not only are all the bones in his pinkies three times longer than hers are, but because of perspective, it appears that each finger gets larger as they go from index finger to pinky finger. Just imagine what your hand would look like if all the fingers were larger than the next as they went across, with your pinky longer and thicker than your index finger. Pretty freaky, right?

The best part of the art is all the parts that are not humans and their clothing, and all of that is 3D models rendered out as sharp-edged line drawings. And if you notice carefully, almost all of the shading information from those 3D models is missing. Nothing casts any sort of shadow, aside from a perfunctory scribble underneath the characters' feet to keep them from looking like they are floating in space.

Maybe these are all artistic choices--going for a minimalistic style. Or maybe the artist knows they have insufficient technical skill and they are doing every trick they know to make it look intentional. Or maybe they are rushed, or lazy, or both. Impossible for us to know without asking them directly. But one thing's for sure. The art is in no way "good". It's passable enough that it doesn't distract you from the story, as long as you don't look at it too hard.
 
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The artist was even nice enough to put their fists side-by-side so you can see how ridiculously huge his hands are.
That part really stuck out to me too. The art in this is fine but not a selling point.
 
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Check out his head...it's frickin' massive. It's as big as her whole upper torso, including her bosom. Getting fat does not make your skull expand.

And even worse, look at the hands. The artist was even nice enough to put their fists side-by-side so you can see how ridiculously huge his hands are. Fat people don't add hardly any weight on their fingers, but that's not the worst part. Look at the first bone on each of their pinky fingers. Hers is closest to the camera and his is farthest from the camera. Not only are all the bones in his pinkies three times longer than hers are, but because of perspective, it appears that each finger gets larger as they go from index finger to pinky finger. Just imagine what your hand would look like if all the fingers were larger than the next as they went across, with your pinky longer and thicker than your index finger. Pretty freaky, right?

The best part of the art is all the parts that are not humans and their clothing, and all of that is 3D models rendered out as sharp-edged line drawings. And if you notice carefully, almost all of the shading information from those 3D models is missing. Nothing casts any sort of shadow, aside from a perfunctory scribble underneath the characters' feet to keep them from looking like they are floating in space. But one thing's for sure. The art is in no way "good". It's passable enough that it doesn't distract you from the story, as long as you don't look at it too hard.
Thanks for saying this so I didn't have to. Up you go!
 
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This girl could have some crazy OP power that she can use effectively at low levels that she inherited from her original character and MC's not even going to consider it? Bizarre. Especially considering he could use that giant death laser from level 1.
 
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I kinda hate the fact that he always follows the fatso in him when it comes to girls (like how he rejected the offer this chapter. Not saying he should just fuck whoever but still). Fatso loves the childhood bitch but she obviously is not interested and only will be interested in the future because he gets stronger.

Thankfully MC steers clear from her during most of the story but he acts like they will be able to leave the game/world at the end and he doesn't want to cross the fatso inside and do anything that makes him upset. I think he is the only one with this problem (inhibiting a body with the original soul still inside)
 
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Because of the art?!??!

MC's proportions make this all the more funny
I mean when MC is next to people and we can see the contrast ahahaha :haa:
and the art looks good enough, can't expect your random isekai to have Miura or Inoue tier art
 
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and the art looks good enough, can't expect your random isekai to have Miura or Inoue tier art
Considering every manga about manga artists tells us that manga artists are all hungry and driven to break into manga, you would think that there are a ton of wannabe manga artists out there--enough so that even D-list isekai-of-the-week mangas should have enough people clamoring to draw it to allow the editors to only select artists that actually understand human anatomy enough not to embarrass themselves in every panel.

Back in my college days, I took 1 semester of Anatomy for Artists--one day a week in class, and one day a week doing life drawing for about 12 weeks. The basics of the basics. And yet with that rudimentary introduction, I can safely say that about 95% of manga artists don't really know how the body parts actually connect, where the bones actually are, what a trapezius is, and how boobs work. (Hint #427: Boobs never overlap.) And the 5% who know, for example, how the rib cage connects to the spine, really should be paid a hell of a lot more than whatever they are being paid now.
 
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Considering every manga about manga artists tells us

Is there really a need for accurate human anatomy? Or knowledge of bone structure and titty physics?

At the end of the day, most manga doesn't have that much accurate anatomy. So long it looks good/decent and the reader can understand the situation, isn't it all good?

Most of the videos I have watched regarding Manga production or 'Life of a Mangaka' or 'Life of a Mangaka's Assistant'. Most artists used to draw when they were a child/teenagers and later got to become Mangaka or started as Assistants. Even the reference book on 'How to Become a Mangaka', didn't have much about anatomy but mostly character proportion based on Head to body ratio. How much importance anatomy is given by manga publishers is also a question.

All the anime/manga I have consumed over the last 20 years I don't feel it was that important for enjoyment.

I feel this also has to do with expectations. Your expectations are too high. I am also a sucker for art, but not so much for anatomy, unless it looks very off. (sure the Fat MC here looks very off, but to me, it is funnier that way, and we do know how slim MC looks)

What we hear a lot as well is how hard it is to maintain a weekly schedule or how awful the pay rate/per manga chapter is. Also how most of the manga with detailed art move over to monthly releases. I doubt they are just being lazy and lying about getting sick or not being able to deliver within a week. I mean we have so many examples.

Then we also have Mangaka who does both the art and story. Some of them have trash art but a story to tell, a famous example would be 'One-Punch Man'. There an less famous titles I have come across with horrendous art but great stories. So long it is enjoyable I don't really care.
 
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Maybe they drop since so many people complain. Seriously don't understand people that complain about free services
They dropped because Google started banning scanlators sites from receiving money though Ads.
Because of that they lost a huge amount of revenue and can't afford to pay their staff anymore, without money they had to shut down.
So far they only uploaded a few chapters of manhwa, but the group collapsed entirelly.
 
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I think mcs skill is in passive mode. (BATTERY SAVE) and he will rapidly burn calories for a buff, but downside if he doesn’t eat he’ll die.

So he gonna stay fat forever unless he finds a way to make his body burn for the buff, but not enough where he dies
 
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If you saw Fat Bastard in The SPY who shagged me, there are fat people with huge heads, and yes, huge heads like doorknobs. MC becomes technically Saiaku every boss fight.
Because of the art?!??!

Damn, son, did you see the last page?

Look, he's fat so he's going to be bigger in some areas--waist, chest, neck, limbs, and anywhere where fat cells accumulate--but it doesn't make his bones bigger, right?

Now check out his head...it's frickin' massive. It's as big as her whole upper torso, including her bosom. Getting fat does not make your skull expand.

And even worse, look at the hands. The artist was even nice enough to put their fists side-by-side so you can see how ridiculously huge his hands are. Fat people don't add hardly any weight on their fingers, but that's not the worst part. Look at the first bone on each of their pinky fingers. Hers is closest to the camera and his is farthest from the camera. Not only are all the bones in his pinkies three times longer than hers are, but because of perspective, it appears that each finger gets larger as they go from index finger to pinky finger. Just imagine what your hand would look like if all the fingers were larger than the next as they went across, with your pinky longer and thicker than your index finger. Pretty freaky, right?

The best part of the art is all the parts that are not humans and their clothing, and all of that is 3D models rendered out as sharp-edged line drawings. And if you notice carefully, almost all of the shading information from those 3D models is missing. Nothing casts any sort of shadow, aside from a perfunctory scribble underneath the characters' feet to keep them from looking like they are floating in space.

Maybe these are all artistic choices--going for a minimalistic style. Or maybe the artist knows they have insufficient technical skill and they are doing every trick they know to make it look intentional. Or maybe they are rushed, or lazy, or both. Impossible for us to know without asking them directly. But one thing's for sure. The art is in no way "good". It's passable enough that it doesn't distract you from the story, as long as you don't look at it too hard.
 

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