Saikin Haitta Shiro Madoushi ga Party Crusher de, Ore no Isekai Boukensha Seikatsu ga Houkai ni Kiki na Ken ni Tsuite - Ch. 17 - Transmigrator and Tr…

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I'm pretty sure that the only thing that's saving the hero party is demon lord Aisu's obsession with destroying the party using seduction. If the MC abandoned his principles here and used violence she would conclude that he's "just like the other men" and easily murder the whole party with magic. That is trivially simple for an enemy with the power to teleport straight to your location when you are bathing, unarmed and vulnerable.
 
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now question is, how the hell did she get isekaid to the same place as him and seems to have been reincarnated even before him to have disciples already
I think it's the other way around. She got summoned a long time ago by the evil gods, and became powerful threat. Then the good gods sought out a soul which would be most likely to win against her.
 
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mc i think you have earned the right to be fucking mad about being killed because of her antics lmao there is no need to be a fucking saint lmao
 
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I hate it SO MUCH when the protag is just like "oh I never held a grudge even though you were an absolute b$tch to me and were the very thing you swore to destroy."

Get mad! Riot! Do something, but don't just be a doormat. 🤦
Yea I truly hate MCs like that, I could never forgive someone who has done me so horrendously
 
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And I think this is where this lost me. The other girls weren't unredeemebly bad, but this bitch caused him die and targets him even now, while he wants to become friends. Lol gtfo.
Seriously a pathetic excuse of a main character

Tf kind of drugs is the author on??
 
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Why do authors like this type of mc so much. I was starting to like mc as well man
 
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Purple Archive lmao
Ok page 13 is wild tho, what do you meaan yap on about love and friendship? This is different, they're literally relying on each other in life and death situations
Also ironically, Aisu's personality is the personality of a lot of old timey VN protagonists who "really don't believe in women" who do uh, questionable extracurricular activities. I always regarded them as losers and wish fulfilment, so the gender bend on the aspect, thats fun
She's also the demon lord of this fantasy isekai I guess, so no matter how hamfisted the approach the plot has a clear focus now and is moving forward (?)
 
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Purple Archive lmao
Ok page 13 is wild tho, what do you meaan yap on about love and friendship? This is different, they're literally relying on each other in life and death situations
Also ironically, Aisu's personality is the personality of a lot of old timey VN protagonists who "really don't believe in women" who do uh, questionable extracurricular activities. I always regarded them as losers and wish fulfilment, so the gender bend on the aspect, thats fun
She's also the demon lord of this fantasy isekai I guess, so no matter how hamfisted the approach the plot has a clear focus now and is moving forward (?)
100%
She is literally one of those incel MC's you could only laugh at how pathetic they behaive.
Crazy to me how people defending her...
 
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Thanks for this chapter, Blutoons.



"bUt ShE dIdN't AcTuAlLy KiLl hIm!!!11!"
So we should pardon Charles Manson in that case, right? Cause he didn't actually kill anyone, he just manipulated people into doing the killings. If you say "well that's not the same thing", you are being willfully hypocritical. The only way to excuse Aisu is if future chapters clarify on the events leading up to Toma's death and do show that she had no intention of being a party crusher, that his "friends" did everything of their own free will. But as of this chapter, with the context that we have, we can safely assume that she manipulated his "friends" which caused his death. Just like how Manson manipulated people that caused deaths.

This is what gets me about the focus on the fact that Shorthair didn't kill Toma: no, it wasn't her hands that sent him to this next world--it was the hands of someone who evidently believed he had something with Shorthair. To put it simply, she might have gotten involved with Toma, but she did nothing to stop the affections of Toma's friends and thereby at least lessen their attention. She was apparently a popular girl who was in love with the validation she was getting--too much so to get rid of it once she settled down.

Indeed, the only way to excuse her is what you said. However, my perspective diverges here: her actions already completely lack any kind of positive regard or sympathy you'd think she'd have for someone she didn't always think ill of--everything she's said here is after her having sent three people Toma's way to ruin his life.



The worst thing about this is that this manga, though it started off with a novel (as far as I'm aware, anyway) idea, is devolving into the usual garbage via its MC: Toma has available to him the affection of at least one pretty girl and the attention of another who's stuck between tsuntsun and deredere--and has just vowed to avoid all women in order to redeem, specifically, a psychopathic shorthair...

...because he believes in the power of friendship.
 
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My thoughts: she probably genuinely loved Toma and wasn't trying to be a circle crusher, but all the guys caught feelings and took it out on her favorite (Toma), which got him killed. This destroyed her trust in men because their lust for her killed the man she loved and now she's twisted into believing that even Toma was just lusting after her too and she's trying to prove it.

i think that this might actually be the case about her. She didn’t want anything to happen to him, but his words tell us that she was a circle crusher. That might have just been his perception because of how things played out with his ”friends”. And then to add to it she sees all of the terrible treatment that the women of this world get from men and, well, you have her twisted sense and teaching all these women how to be party crushers.
 

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