Salaryman ga Isekai ni Ittara Shitennou ni Natta Hanashi - Vol. 1 Ch. 7

[Claresilver47]

He said it bluntly but she completely misunderstood his observations where he was leading up to the idea of enchanting items with magic. His observation was actually that always having to self enchant with magic was overkill when it was theoretically possible to apply the enchantment to a weapon

 

[Liquidxlax]

@Claresilver47 yes but what it sounded like is that he was shitting on all her efforts that got her to where she is today. It is because she trained her body and magical enhancement along with her senses and knowledge got her to be a shitennou. I would say magic is far more efficient if it uses a separate pool of energy like how games have stamina mana and health. The fact that she is an all in one combat "machine" makes her more efficient. Adding a weapon only makes her stronger, but lets say she started out with weapons I'd think she'd be somewhat weaker overall because of it.

 

[DemonHide]

Oh boy, I've heard this story more than a few... Good luck, bud. You'll need it.

 

[Hoezell]

If this is caniballism, what is human eating monkey? Because some cultures do eat.

 

[dharman]

somehow japanese superb cuisines could rip women clothes off always.

 

[cullinaire]

Sure it's cooking, but this one wasn't particularly nipponized(tm) so I dunno why people are getting so up in arms about it, then again mangadex commenters have to raise shit about everything.

If anything he just did a salt bae on it...

😂

 

[Solipsist]

@Hoezell
I considered it cannibalism (ish?), because they would be eating an animal that has their fellow orcs in its stomach. Offering something like that can be treated as insensitive.
That being said, I was flipping through the pages, so dunno.

 

[Treswimming]

This kinda pisses me off a little.
It’s fine that she got upset for whatever cultural reason, but she let her emotions get the best of her and abandoned her post (guarding MC). If I was her boss, I wouldn’t be able to trust her if she were to abandon her job at the drop of a hat like that.

 

[Hoezell]

@Solipsist
Assuming they would actually eat the stomach with everything inside, well...

 

[Borderline]

You don't push botton twice.

Personally, I think this is good to see. since the goal is to use his knowledge to develop the world, not change this world into his previous world.

 

[dantziel]

@alidan not really tho.

and hey, in the US it's still could buying salt on reasonable prices.

and in medieval times and by what i mean about maybe 800-1100. salt probably higher, but still bearable. and there are cheaper kind of salt like the one that made on the French Atlantic Coast.

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while the prices vary, since there's war that made salt prices fluctuate not that even near the same price of gold, but still salt is still everyday kind of thing.

 

[Arcverson]

So she lost trust in him because he used logical thinking that somehow c with her way of life? By now she should know him enough to realize that mocking her is the last thing he'd want to do so I don't know why she seems disappointed, she could've just asked him to mind his business without all this shitty drama.

 

[Elroy79]

I think he spoke without considering everything. In other words, he shot from the hip because he got too comfortable and immediately thought everything he came/comes up with is immediately better. I know the author is probably going to force the plot to make him be right, but he should've went in with questions to understand why she and they think that way about magic since he has no magic and doesn't know what he's talking about. Sure, a weapon may compliment her abilities if you're a person on the outside looking in, but that's assuming she could channel the magic through a weapon and do so without having to transform her arm. MC assumed a ton in that statement. Beyond that, he managed to belittle all of her efforts. You didn't see him jumping in to fight the monster, oh because he doesn't have magic yet he's criticizing a person who has it and who's had it for all their life. That's like a person who never fired a weapon trying to tell someone how to be better at firing a weapon or a person who never fought with a sword trying to tell someone how to be better at fighting with a sword, etc. etc. Or someone trying to tell someone how to draw when the person giving advice never tried to draw anything. It's criticizing from a position of ignorance without trying to understand the craft before offering an opinion on it.

Again, I expect the author to force him to be right just as the author did with the cooking thing. I get the other stuff given her personality and how she's not the diplomatic type, she's the go in fighting and intimidating type. That whole dynamic fit between them. And I was lenient with the cooking thing because it's a manga and Japanese authors always like to present Japanese cooking as the best thing since sliced bread, but when it came to fighting and magic the author jumped the shark trying to make MC seem uber wise enough to criticize her right after having MC praise her for overcoming the monster.

 

[MrFakOff]

Love this manga

 

[Shakur]

@Elroy79 I think you're mostly right but no one needs to be a fighting expert to know that using different weapons to different situations would be more efficient than using the same weapon to every situation, if she used a sword ow axe or spear she would have needed less effort to kill the boar than using her bare hands to do it, it's a simple question of logic. But also there's also the question of familiarity with the weapon used if she used a weapon that she's not familiarized it might need her more effort to kill the boar as well. I don't blame him completely cause as a common person from our world he is not used to the specifics of hunting but I also can't just ignore that his observation has some value to it.

 

[Elroy79]

@Shakur

He assumed too much based on his own logic. You also did the same.

What if a weapon from their world doesn't work on that monster? What if the metal is weak against that monster's hide, fur, whatever? What if this hide, fur, whatever gave it a layer of dermal armor that no weapon in their world could pierce without utilizing magic? Also, as you said, what if she's not skilled enough to use a weapon? What if her skill primarily lies in using her magic, filtering that through her body and using her body as a weapon? There are so many unanswered questions that the MC didn't think about before he opened his mouth and assumed he knew better.

You're right, a person doesn't have to be an expert at fighting to know that using different weapons in different situations may be beneficial, but said person has to have some relative knowledge of said weapons. For instance, with my far less than beginner knowledge (essentially no-knowledge) about swords, I might be able to get away with only telling someone obvious things like what end they probably should be holding, or maybe to watch how they swing it, maybe surmise that a heavy sword may not be good for someone without a decent amount of upper body strength, etc. Some of those things are deduced through observation, but as some of them get into more advanced things, they have a higher risk of not being right without getting more information about swords and sword fighting techniques. If I assume I know better than the person using the sword because I'm an expert at management in a corporate company then I'm going to end up putting my foot in my mouth beyond obvious observational things that have a high likelihood to be correct. And with limited to no knowledge about swords, the number of those obvious things I would get right drop significantly.

That's my overall point. He has no knowledge of how magic worked in the new world beyond observing it a few times. We're supposed to believe that from observing it a few times that he knew enough to critique her on what she was doing when she is obviously the warrior and he is the manager and diplomat. But like I said, the author will forcefully make him right when the two reconcile.

 

[hhhs]

Mc praising girls: Haha gal you look cool but...

 

[boag]

@Elroy79

I know the author is probably going to force the plot to make him be right,

Surprisingly

Spoiler

The author went with the Culture shock treatment, Uchimura thinks through about what caused the misunderstanding and finds out he was in the wrong.

 

[Elroy79]

@boag,

That's refreshing. Usually, MC is forcefully right in everything. I'll keep watch to see how it plays out since I see chapter 8 raw is out. Thanks.

 

[MagicalCarcrash]

That's nice. MC isn't wrong in his modern world thinking, but keep shoving it down the throat of people from different culture, who has been very accomodating of him, result in a rift in relationship. Kudos to author.