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Sasha-chan to Classmate Otaku-kun - Vol. 3 Ch. 39 - My Treasure.
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You underestimate how much is allowed to slide in the suggestive tag. Some of the horniest scenes (including visible nipples) I’ve seen are still classed “suggestive”. Breasts in this are nipple less and it uses the “white box” censorship method. You could MAYBE argue “erotica” but definitely not “pornographic”
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That is a good take on the matter. While many will scream of NTR, it effectively isn’t as they aren’t in a confirmed relationship NOR does our MC seem to mind. I do have mixed feelings about the matter however given that Hagu effectively reaffirms the story’s direction.
From the nonchalant and almost flirtatious reactions of Sasha and the calm face of our master here it is clear that this sexual promiscuity will not be a one-off thing. Hagu says in his post that Sasha has a habit, almost to the level of self harm, of “teasing” those she is close with. So you can only imagine that this stunt WILL happen again in the future to progress their relationship. And this time and may be with a more unscrupulous setting and cast of characters. What are your thoughts on her dialogue at the end of chapter 72 btw? I’m having difficulty understanding if this “father” is her biological one or a sex friend and does she show him a video of the theeesome?
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Her and Master will definitely be in more sexual situations. Author already said that's part of their relationship. They'll continue to get closer (he loves to use "lovey dovey" or "head over heels" to describe their future) while embracing their wilder sides together.
So, chapter 71 and 72 were examples of that. They were entirely about Sasha and Master, with senpai essentially being used like a sex toy. Master apparently has some great sexual powers, so much so that the senpai ends up feeling inferior and a bit upset lol. Senpai's whole shtick seems to be assuming he'll one-up Master, only to fail and feel miserable for comedy.
As for the last conversation, it's likely her real father. She doesn't refer to anyone else like that. It seems he wants to meet Master, since Sasha brought up Master potentially becoming her BF. Could be a lot of things but part of it must be wanting to meet the boy his daughter is gushing over. Based on her look, it's likely more than that though. Seems like something for the future. I doubt we find out anytime soon.
So, chapter 71 and 72 were examples of that. They were entirely about Sasha and Master, with senpai essentially being used like a sex toy. Master apparently has some great sexual powers, so much so that the senpai ends up feeling inferior and a bit upset lol. Senpai's whole shtick seems to be assuming he'll one-up Master, only to fail and feel miserable for comedy.
As for the last conversation, it's likely her real father. She doesn't refer to anyone else like that. It seems he wants to meet Master, since Sasha brought up Master potentially becoming her BF. Could be a lot of things but part of it must be wanting to meet the boy his daughter is gushing over. Based on her look, it's likely more than that though. Seems like something for the future. I doubt we find out anytime soon.
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The penetration is what's the issue, even though it's a crude drawing.
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My guess was that the father figure may refer to the CEO of the gravure company. It is the only character that Hagu confirms that Sasha loves (outside of her growing interest in the Master).
In term of sexual prowess, I know there will be a character that eclipses Master. I just don’t like the thought of him seeing an adult literally go ham on Sasha as he watches her face. Almost like in the newest doujin that Hagu posted.
One of my other qualms is that with Sasha’s promiscuity being reaffirmed, what are the chances she sees other people outside of the master/sasha dynamic? I feel like it’s one thing to have a character push the growth of our main relationship and another to still have Sasha have sex just for the sake of it. Thoughts?
In term of sexual prowess, I know there will be a character that eclipses Master. I just don’t like the thought of him seeing an adult literally go ham on Sasha as he watches her face. Almost like in the newest doujin that Hagu posted.
One of my other qualms is that with Sasha’s promiscuity being reaffirmed, what are the chances she sees other people outside of the master/sasha dynamic? I feel like it’s one thing to have a character push the growth of our main relationship and another to still have Sasha have sex just for the sake of it. Thoughts?
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I think it's just her dad--she's speaking in her native language. You're right that guy is also considered a father figure by Sasha but I don't think so. We'll see eventually.
As for sexual prowess, the series isn’t explicit, so I doubt that’ll come up unless you check Fanbox or similar. Either way, I wouldn’t worry about it. Like any rom-com, there will be obstacles, but overcoming them is part of the journey and they will be overcome, as per the author. Master is being shown to have "skills" himself. I imagine that'll be part of his journey too.
Regarding the last point, she might still have sex for the sake of it—that’s part of who she is, and Master is very aware. I doubt he’d care much if she does; he might even use it as inspiration for his ecchi manga, which he’s done before (like in Chapter 72). He hasn't cared that much after 72 chapters. Whether you’re okay with that is up to you. Personally, I only care about the emotional side. As long as she continues to care for Master and he stays open to their dynamic, their relationship is up to them to define--the author has made it crystal clear those things will be a constant. It's not like I'm Master here. I'm not bothered by other people's unconventional relationships.
As for sexual prowess, the series isn’t explicit, so I doubt that’ll come up unless you check Fanbox or similar. Either way, I wouldn’t worry about it. Like any rom-com, there will be obstacles, but overcoming them is part of the journey and they will be overcome, as per the author. Master is being shown to have "skills" himself. I imagine that'll be part of his journey too.
Regarding the last point, she might still have sex for the sake of it—that’s part of who she is, and Master is very aware. I doubt he’d care much if she does; he might even use it as inspiration for his ecchi manga, which he’s done before (like in Chapter 72). He hasn't cared that much after 72 chapters. Whether you’re okay with that is up to you. Personally, I only care about the emotional side. As long as she continues to care for Master and he stays open to their dynamic, their relationship is up to them to define--the author has made it crystal clear those things will be a constant. It's not like I'm Master here. I'm not bothered by other people's unconventional relationships.
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I agree with your point; I absolutely adore the growing emotional attachment that Sasha has with the MC and casting sexual matters aside, it is heart-warming to say the least. From what I've read at least, this may as well be one of Sasha's largest emotional attachment to any figure.
Perhaps that last point may be my biggest gripe of the manga. While master has shown character development in accepting Sasha's ideals, it is difficult to say that she's changing her own ideals to meet a middle ground with the master. Someone mentions that Sasha isn't looking for any sexual partners after chapter 68 but I cannot confirm that. Maybe I just want some exclusivity in the master-sasha dynamic.
Perhaps that last point may be my biggest gripe of the manga. While master has shown character development in accepting Sasha's ideals, it is difficult to say that she's changing her own ideals to meet a middle ground with the master. Someone mentions that Sasha isn't looking for any sexual partners after chapter 68 but I cannot confirm that. Maybe I just want some exclusivity in the master-sasha dynamic.
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No, she's definately talking to her Father. She's speaking Russian, and Sasha already told Master she wants him to meet her dad during the festival chapters. I think you're right about someone eclipsing Master sexually, though. This was Masters first test, which he passed. Sasha already said Sanada senpai was not good at sex, she didn't like fucking him. Who Master will have to overcome will probably be Chapter 0 senpai. The guy she ran away from in ch30, and who she doesn't like, but LOVES having sex with. She's described him as best at sex.
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MC spends the whole lead up to the threesome seething with jealousy, then breaks down crying halfway through:
Sasha: "Why are you crying? Can you tell me?"
MC: "Shut up. I'm not crying."
Where did you get the idea that he didn't seem to mind? He's only ever gone along with this because he has no choice. He minds immensely.
Sasha: "Why are you crying? Can you tell me?"
MC: "Shut up. I'm not crying."
Where did you get the idea that he didn't seem to mind? He's only ever gone along with this because he has no choice. He minds immensely.
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MC spends the whole lead up to the threesome seething with jealousy, then breaks down crying halfway through:
Sasha: "Why are you crying? Can you tell me?"
MC: "Shut up. I'm not crying."
Where did you get the idea that he didn't seem to mind? He's only ever gone along with this because he has no choice. He minds immensely.
It was difficult to tell with the translate app I was using since it translated weirdly. I only said it with his reactions after the event had occurred where he appears more calm, albeit more haggard in the process. Perhaps Hagu, in his infinite degeneracy and doting of Sasha, can actually use this as an opportunity to have Sasha change to meet a middle ground with master.
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Knowing Hagu, master may not be able to overcome that senpai sexually. As of chapter 40, his weapon is small and he unloads like a RDR2 revolver deadeye. My guess is that if she is continuing to pursue sexual relations with senpai, then our master can only win her emotionally (like he's been doing for the entire manga).
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She didn't stop looking for more, she said she wasn't looking to add to her circle for the moment when Sanada-senpai asked to be her sex friend again. She stopped seeing him as much because, besides being bored with him, he was so pushy, which is what led her to flee her apartment to get away from him in Chapters 30-33.
She'd totally add more if she felt like it. She just didn't. Especially not him.
She'd totally add more if she felt like it. She just didn't. Especially not him.
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I get that. Perfectly understandable. It won't be for everyone. Nice talking with you though. I'm down to discuss it further as chapters come out. I don't know if you're keeping up with this or plan to continue.
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He got overwhelmed because it was his first significant sexual experience. While he doesn’t "mind immensely" about her promiscuity, he is still adjusting to this new dynamic. The poster tends to view most interactions negatively, which is fair given the manga's chaotic tone. However, I think their perspective is often skewed. This chapter is what I expected it to be. I’m also confident this Senpai isn’t the same person Sasha fled from in earlier chapters. They have different character designs and roles.
This Senpai is often the butt of the joke, getting the short end of the stick. As you mentioned, Master starts to relax afterward, and his reaction during the act was normal and not a big deal. The crying trope during a first-time experience is usually applied to women, but here it's subverted for comedic effect, like most stuff in this series. Sasha enjoyed teasing him, as expected, in line with the author’s comments. Master even mentions how Senpai also didn't fair any better either (which Senpai hates too). So both of them had it rough--part of the joke.
Senpai envies Master’s stamina and performance—“shooting eight times and still going strong”—and wonders why a boy younger than him can even have these skills. He’s not in a great position here. His role is as a would-be NTR protagonist who always fails, which is the joke. His introduction is a monologue about stealing Sasha from Master, which culminates in him being tied up while Master and Sasha focus on homework. Later, during the threesome, he’s left feeling inadequate compared to Master’s prowess. Meanwhile, Master worries about his ecchi manga, and Sasha relaxes in the bath, bragging about Master. Senpai is also a friend though, I don't think he's meant to be viewed that negatively.
As for Sasha finding a middle ground, I doubt it. This story follows the “quiet boy meets extroverted GF who breaks him out of his shell” trope. It’s more likely Master will become more sexually confident over time. The author hints they’ll grow more "lovey-dovey" while embracing each other's wild sides, which doesn’t suggest compromise. Whether that appeals depends on your tastes, for sure.
This Senpai is often the butt of the joke, getting the short end of the stick. As you mentioned, Master starts to relax afterward, and his reaction during the act was normal and not a big deal. The crying trope during a first-time experience is usually applied to women, but here it's subverted for comedic effect, like most stuff in this series. Sasha enjoyed teasing him, as expected, in line with the author’s comments. Master even mentions how Senpai also didn't fair any better either (which Senpai hates too). So both of them had it rough--part of the joke.
Senpai envies Master’s stamina and performance—“shooting eight times and still going strong”—and wonders why a boy younger than him can even have these skills. He’s not in a great position here. His role is as a would-be NTR protagonist who always fails, which is the joke. His introduction is a monologue about stealing Sasha from Master, which culminates in him being tied up while Master and Sasha focus on homework. Later, during the threesome, he’s left feeling inadequate compared to Master’s prowess. Meanwhile, Master worries about his ecchi manga, and Sasha relaxes in the bath, bragging about Master. Senpai is also a friend though, I don't think he's meant to be viewed that negatively.
As for Sasha finding a middle ground, I doubt it. This story follows the “quiet boy meets extroverted GF who breaks him out of his shell” trope. It’s more likely Master will become more sexually confident over time. The author hints they’ll grow more "lovey-dovey" while embracing each other's wild sides, which doesn’t suggest compromise. Whether that appeals depends on your tastes, for sure.
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Then with that in mind, it is difficult to fathom how Hagu can write a "happy" ending for our master and Sasha. If what you said was write about the leadup and master crying during chapter 72, he still yearns for a level of exclusivity.
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Maybe, like master, I am adapting to Sasha's antics as well. I remember when chapter 32 came out and the whiplash that chapter gave me had me actually feeling queasy for a few days lol. Now, with the introduction of chapter 72, while I still do feel bad about the dynamics it was more-so like, "damn that's a shame." Perhaps I'm adopting your outlook on the matter where as long as Master remains the most emotionally vested person Sasha has, then it is still stomachable (if that is even a word lol). However, I would still love to see master vying for exclusivity, even if it is a pipe dream. As long as Master is number 1, then you'll still be seeing in the later chapters.
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Maybe towards the end that will be the case. The author is adamant about their having a happy ending and he's already had Sasha sincerely commit to doing what Master says once he accepts being her BF. Master put a timer on that--a year away because he feels he needs time. That could come back or it could not. Master could also be her BF but by that time he might be down for a type of open relationship. The only thing we know is the ending will be happy for them and in the meantime they will get closer and very into each other but we'll see what that looks like. It will not be conventional though. This is not that type of series.
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I’ve forgotten about that promise with Master with the whole bf/gf stuff and that make me happy in term of the whole exclusivity stuff but I can also see your point in seeing Master adapt. This manga really does feel like a “experience the journey with a fixed destination” as we know they’re getting a happy ending. It’s just a matter of how big the waves are during said trip.
That’s for sure. I’m not quite sure what qualifies as a happy ending to Hagu as this entire series has been unconventional in relation to a standard rom com. And even then, that happy ending that Hagu envisioned might not necessarily be a happy ending for the reader (although I find that difficult to believe given that he is self-aware of how the story looks to the reader from his last update at the bottom of chapter 72).
I’ve forgotten about that promise with Master with the whole bf/gf stuff and that make me happy in term of the whole exclusivity stuff but I can also see your point in seeing Master adapt. This manga really does feel like a “experience the journey with a fixed destination” as we know they’re getting a happy ending. It’s just a matter of how big the waves are during said trip.
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