Sensou Kyoushitsu - Vol. 13 Ch. 40 - A Clockwork Tree

[Ironclad]

They took his tomboy gf, they must pay.

 

[Baylordkin]

Haru got cooked man

 

[SciFiMisc]

I think there's a lot of resemblance with the oak trees doing all of that brainwashing thing to Lucas's resonating power evoking his own feelings upon the people for them to cause mass murder. The author is definitely setting up a dilemma or thoughtful reminder that Lucas might be no different than the ones he's fighting against(which is probably obvious from the previous chapters). Definitely, there will not be a grand ending for this story. A grim one for Lucas.

Ah yes, the stupidest most infuriating and worthless fucking trope in all of fiction. Only possibly beaten by "it was all a dream".

 

[Othymit]

I think there's a lot of resemblance with the oak trees doing all of that brainwashing thing to Lucas's resonating power evoking his own feelings upon the people for them to cause mass murder. The author is definitely setting up a dilemma or thoughtful reminder that Lucas might be no different than the ones he's fighting against(which is probably obvious from the previous chapters). Definitely, there will not be a grand ending for this story. A grim one for Lucas.

You say this as if it's speculation, but aren't they pretty much confirmed to be the same thing? All the Ramus are tree-hybrids or something. We figured that out back during the oakist village arc, where they strapped Lucas to the chair since they wanted to mPreg him, a Ramus (tree power wielder), with a tree seed or whatever.

In terms of being no different from the enemy, that was always the theme. Every since we knew other nations had Ramus (that were also coerced into service), their own tower/tree/spire thing, and the time-travel leaders.

 

[Kurovah]

I wonder if Zoe is going to speak up against Lucas at some point

 

[nougette]

Some of those developments make me think of Pluribus

Spoiler: Pluribus

Same philosophical question: should you drop individuality for a peaceful unified experience?

 

[exxeld]

the nail that sticks out gets hammered down as always it seems but it was a little funny to see how unconcerned luca was at the end of the chapter.

 

[TheTenk]

Some of those developments make me think of Pluribus

Spoiler: Pluribus

Same philosophical question: should you drop individuality for a peaceful unified experience?

Well, Pluribus goes a lot harder into making the collective the objectively worse state, whereas this is suppressing minorities for the sake of the majority so there's at least SOMEBODY benefiting. But I certainly had the same thought.

 

[jmax565]

Clockwork Orange, nice

 

[Ryallen]

"Haru didn't know about Ryouko's relatives though"
You've met her, if anything that would've just encouraged her more

"You're just saying that because she lost"
And you're just saying that because she's your friend

"Haru got scarred too"
Yeah but Ryouko looks far more fucked up and is clearly still unhappy with the whole thing, Haru was just mad she got in trouble

The village should've allowed Haru and her mother to leave, no doubt, but Haru is hardly the victim in that fight and refuses to adjust her behavior to not offend other people. I don't care if you're addicted to cigarettes, stop smoking right next to me. I'm waiting for the bus and you smell like shit and death. You aren't expressing your individuality, you're being loud and annoying and I need you to stop.

I've been on both sides of this situation, sitting both in the minority and majority opinion, and there's nothing worse than someone who has an opinion, refuses to elaborate, and calls you an asshole except maybe someone with a martyr complex for having said opinion.

 

[Grye]

hell yeah

 

[S1arburst]

Call me weird but I don't think brainwashing a child into another personality is an improvement on torturing her.

 

[S1arburst]

The village should've allowed Haru and her mother to leave, no doubt, but Haru is hardly the victim in that fight and refuses to adjust her behavior to not offend other people. I don't care if you're addicted to cigarettes, stop smoking right next to me. I'm waiting for the bus and you smell like shit and death. You aren't expressing your individuality, you're being loud and annoying and I need you to stop.

The scary part is how far everyone in that village was adjusting their behavior not to offend anyone, and not expressing their individuality at all. Like sure Haru was extreme, but no one else was going to say if they didn't like a puppet show, and pretend they all liked meat pies.

 

[Ryallen]

The scary part is how far everyone in that village was adjusting their behavior not to offend anyone, and not expressing their individuality at all. Like sure Haru was extreme, but no one else was going to say if they didn't like a puppet show, and pretend they all liked meat pies.

Tbf that's just falling into mass hypnosis to enforce said communal agreement and that sorta kills the actual conversation to be had in favor of an objectively evil antagonist you can slaughter en masse guilt free. Then again the reveal of the druids was a shark jumping sort of moment for me, it killed all of the mystery the story had and now we're just dealing with the repercussions of that decision so I don't think I should be expecting too much now