Shijou de Katta Dorei Elf ni Oratsukareru - Ch. 4 - Halloween With The Bossy Elf And The Old Lady

[MangaDex]

 

[nibroc18]

I wonder what the lifespan of an elf who‘s also a chronic smoker is?

 

[DLRevan]

I wonder what the lifespan of an elf who‘s also a chronic smoker is?

Serious answer?

Since she always has a cig in hand she probably goes through 5~6 packs equivalent a day (which I would say is incredibly insane). Assuming she ages like a human, just proportionally greater and is susceptible to the same health problems, I'd say at best she's looking at half her normal life span, and most of the latter half in really poor health.

 

[robertelch]

Serious answer?

Since she always has a cig in hand she probably goes through 5~6 packs equivalent a day (which I would say is incredibly insane). Assuming she ages like a human, just proportionally greater and is susceptible to the same health problems, I'd say at best she's looking at half her normal life span, and most of the latter half in really poor health.

She doesn't seem to be smoking cigarette's but Cigars instead. And I don't think there's any research on people that smoke as many as she does. I don't think there even are people like that

 

[zokoi19]

She doesn't seem to be smoking cigarette's but Cigars instead. And I don't think there's any research on people that smoke as many as she does. I don't think there even are people like that

I mean, I knew someone who used to smoke 3 packs per day (cigarettes not cigars), so I do think it's within the realm of possibility that there are people who smoke 5 packs per day. Though maybe smoking cigars differs a lot from cigarettes and there aren't people like that? I don't smoke so idk the differences tbh.

 

[welnic]

She doesn't seem to be smoking cigarette's but Cigars instead. And I don't think there's any research on people that smoke as many as she does. I don't think there even are people like that

well I think if she is smoking this many Cigars then its even worse because they are bigger and they don't have a filter, so her lifespan would shorten even more

 

[DLRevan]

She doesn't seem to be smoking cigarette's but Cigars instead. And I don't think there's any research on people that smoke as many as she does. I don't think there even are people like that

There are certainly people who smoke this much. I personally have known people who have gone through 3~4 packs a day, and anecdotally it's not hard to find people who do more.

They are certainly the minority, but the real reason there isn't much research because it's known that even taking 10~20 cigs a day already severely debilitates most people's health and lifespans. So what's the point of finding out what happens when someone does 5~10 times that?

It's easier to factor how it affects her life expectancy in terms of cigarettes regardless. Cigars are arguably less harmful than cigarettes, but they can also be smoked for a much longer time, like hours. An average user does only about 0.5~2 a day. She looks like she does maybe 5~6 a day, if not more. Cigar chain smokers are not well researched, but average users are known to face health issues and life expectancy loss noticeably less, but not significantly so, compared to average cigarette smokers. Reasonably you can expect a similar increase in health deterioration for a heavy cigar smoker. I still say she loses up to half her lifespan.


Maybe the real question is, even with extreme environmental factors like smoking....do Elves get cancer or heart disease? In which case, she'd probably live longer. But still not to her full lifespan or at least not in good health. Eventually, there will be mechanical causes of health complications and death like tar accumulation.

 

[Robinisback]

Great talk about cigars and smokes, I want some candy.

 

[kn4ll]

Great talk about cigars and smokes, I want some candy.

You should see the ramblings over at plebbit about slavery.
I'd take the smoker talk over that honestly.
I hope elf gambles too and prefer meat over vegetables.

 

[SuplexSensei]

*ehem
Hi Granma

Can I ask the smoking hot elf lady for candy?
Jawbreaker? The non-literal kind, thank you

 

[bmmc]

There are certainly people who smoke this much. I personally have known people who have gone through 3~4 packs a day, and anecdotally it's not hard to find people who do more.

They are certainly the minority, but the real reason there isn't much research because it's known that even taking 10~20 cigs a day already severely debilitates most people's health and lifespans. So what's the point of finding out what happens when someone does 5~10 times that?

It's easier to factor how it affects her life expectancy in terms of cigarettes regardless. Cigars are arguably less harmful than cigarettes, but they can also be smoked for a much longer time, like hours. An average user does only about 0.5~2 a day. She looks like she does maybe 5~6 a day, if not more. Cigar chain smokers are not well researched, but average users are known to face health issues and life expectancy loss noticeably less, but not significantly so, compared to average cigarette smokers. Reasonably you can expect a similar increase in health deterioration for a heavy cigar smoker. I still say she loses up to half her lifespan.


Maybe the real question is, even with extreme environmental factors like smoking....do Elves get cancer or heart disease? In which case, she'd probably live longer. But still not to her full lifespan or at least not in good health. Eventually, there will be mechanical causes of health complications and death like tar accumulation.

Half of my friends smoke cigars.
I don't know anyone who inhales them, as it's generally an oral only experience with cigars and pipe tobacco.
Usually they're a more simple and cleaner product as well.
That's why a session can sometimes last over an hour and you don't get sick from the nicotine as easy.

 

[wallsg]

Serious answer?

Since she always has a cig in hand she probably goes through 5~6 packs equivalent a day (which I would say is incredibly insane). Assuming she ages like a human, just proportionally greater and is susceptible to the same health problems, I'd say at best she's looking at half her normal life span, and most of the latter half in really poor health.

She doesn't seem to be smoking cigarette's but Cigars instead. And I don't think there's any research on people that smoke as many as she does. I don't think there even are people like that

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Maybe the real question is, even with extreme environmental factors like smoking....do Elves get cancer or heart disease? In which case, she'd probably live longer. But still not to her full lifespan or at least not in good health. Eventually, there will be mechanical causes of health complications and death like tar accumulation.

Half of my friends smoke cigars.
I don't know anyone who inhales them, as it's generally an oral only experience with cigars and pipe tobacco.
Usually they're a more simple and cleaner product as well.
That's why a session can sometimes last over an hour and you don't get sick from the nicotine as easy.

If I recall correctly, cigar smokers are more prone to lip and tongue cancer than lung cancer precisely because they don't inhale.

Tolkien elves are immortal and immune to illness (which I assume also would include cancer). They can still die from injuries, such as from accidents and battle. I would assume they could also starve to death or die of dehydration.

 

[DLRevan]

Half of my friends smoke cigars.
I don't know anyone who inhales them, as it's generally an oral only experience with cigars and pipe tobacco.
Usually they're a more simple and cleaner product as well.
That's why a session can sometimes last over an hour and you don't get sick from the nicotine as easy.

If I recall correctly, cigar smokers are more prone to lip and tongue cancer than lung cancer precisely because they don't inhale.

Tolkien elves are immortal and immune to illness (which I assume also would include cancer). They can still die from injuries, such as from accidents and battle. I would assume they could also starve to death or die of dehydration.

Yep, the increased mortality is mainly due to different complications than cigarettes. That doesn't mean it doesn't impact life expectancy. There is indeed research on cigar smokers, and it's not very positive.

Anecdotal accounts of cigars not impacting health are just that...anecdotal. People in the 60s used to think much the same about cigarettes, that they knew so many people who smoked who had little to no health problems, so the studies that were gaining huge momentum then were dismissed.

Complicating the matter is it's known that some people are resistant to the more fatal conditions, mainly cancers, of the lungs, throat and mouth. So they smoke with impunity with seemingly no increase to mortality.

It really depends how one chooses to look at the matter. People tend to remember or believe things that already match their preconceived notions, like the idea that cigars are "cleaner", or that it's healthier. For example if you were opposed to it instead, you'd probably interpret the same facts as indicating cigars are so "dirty" they cause more oral cancer as well as gum and tooth disease than cigarettes despite not typically being inhaled. Even though the fact is it has more to do with the smoker's habits, such as chewing the cigar.

Regardless, bottom line there isn't a safe level of consumption for either type of smoking (and probably the new third one, vaping).