Shijou Saikyou no Mahou Kenshi, F Rank Boukensha ni Tensei Suru ~Kensei to Matei, 2 Tsu no Zense o motta Otoko no Eiyuutan~ - Vol. 12 Ch. 108

[Wolvenworks]

Basically s rank is someone so strong, you cant force them to do anything

In some scenarios, yes they can be forced to do anything, on pain of death, rank loss, and/or being branded as a fugitive.

 

[screamdoom]

Aizawa should dip, this smells like trouble.

 

[Daeat]

Ahh yes promote him to s rank so he is at the nobles beck and call ... I would accept get s rank, quit then become an adventurer at f rank again or just purposefully fail the exam or whatever it is

 

[sjmcc13]

The norm on other isekai/fantasy mangas (including this one IIRC) is that higher ranks comes with more prestige, fame, honor, and money, but it also comes with the obligations to accept certain high ranking quests like emergencies, wars, noble quests, etc.

The norm is that they also make sure the added incentives are enough to encourage people to rank up, and do not force people to do so/punish those who refuse.

You want them loyal, and someone forced and working under duress is not good for morale or loyalty.

 

[bakanisan]

Lmao they talked with an accusative tone like it's illegal for him to stay at F rank. Like bruh he's fucking strong why would you want to piss him off megalul:

 

[sjmcc13]

If they are pushing him this hard to be promoted there is no way they’ll let him have his freedom after being promoted. Also this guild master is very suspicious something is off about her.

She feels more like a lazy bureaucrat, trying to force things to fit the established system. Mostly due to laziness, but refusing address (which would require admitting to) to the flaws in the current system is a possibility, and one that Asian cultures seem to be more likely to instill in people to some extent.

There are a lot of people who just try for the easiest and simplest solutions, or the first one that they think of, and will not actually analyse the situation if needed.

Though there are also to many bad bosses out there who expect to be able to tell people to do what they want, and be blindly obeyed by those they see as under them, with no repercussions.

She could be up to something. However the risk of failure makes me think it is more likely to be a case of she, and the guild in general, wants the ranks to reflect ability as accurately as possible, and this was her first idea on how to correct a oversite she became aware of. As opposed to talking to Yuri and negotiating a compromise.

just because she doesn't want to suck his dick on sight?

Considering that there is actually questionable judgement in her actions?
Really are you so immature you need to jump onto a sexist horny teen accusation?

 

[nuttyknight89]

So we got two possible outcomes as far as I can see.
First, S rank means he’s so powerful that he can’t be messed with by anyone and goes/does what he pleases, cause it could cause countries to topple if he’s mistreated/forced to do anything.
Second, s rank is the uber strict gilded cage so he quits and becomes a merc outside of the adventurers guild.
I just hope that whatever the outcome this bitch gets her comeuppance. Hopefully involving ropes.

 

[ckay1100]

(["You're S Rank now!"])>

<(["I'm handing in my guild card and retiring as an adventurer"])


One could only dream

 

[dexdoujinmanga]

After he becomes S rank, he will change his name into Aizawa Yaoi.

 

[blablablub]

Let me get this straight: That guild master or whatever is accusing MC of falsifying his rank and her "proof" is people claiming he has more strenght than an F-rank would have? That doesn't proof anything.
And I don't thnk that woman (or maybe the author) knows what falsifying means. MC would be falsifying his rank if he actually got a promotion before but still claims to be F-Rank. However, that is not the case. As MC mentioned, he never accepted a promotion. So he's still genuinely an F-Rank

 

[Jiel]

I, for one, say the lady got a point.

Imagine you giving out a ranking license to regulate a highly competitive profession. Then here comes some schmuck with the most basic license going around making miracles. Of course a lot of people will be pissed.

Really, the most unreasonable one here is the MC. If he dislike the recognition so much he should have lived on a mountain or something and never interact with anyone ever. Or just shove the license from the start and do whatever he want, what they gonna do, arrest him?

This perpetual F-rank has been a farce from day 1. Here's hoping they put a stop to it (Yeah who am I kidding? That will never happen!)

 

[orcadanh]

He is absolutely F-ranker. He claimed that! And if you want to argue about it, try to beat him first

 

[Kaarme]

I, for one, say the lady got a point.

Imagine you giving out a ranking license to regulate a highly competitive profession. Then here comes some schmuck with the most basic license going around making miracles. Of course a lot of people will be pissed.

What exactly is the problem? It's not like he would be clearing all the F-rank quests in cities, leaving nothing for the newbie adventurers. Many a higher rank adventurer would merely think he's an idiot, wasting his time working for pennies when he could instead earn enough to buy a castle. The only concrete "problem" is that there are higher rank idiots who can only judge people based on their public, official rank. When those fools are humiliated, they take it personally and considered themselves the offended party, even though they are the original bullies.

Really, the most unreasonable one here is the MC. If he dislike the recognition so much he should have lived on a mountain or something and never interact with anyone ever. Or just shove the license from the start and do whatever he want, what they gonna do, arrest him?

This perpetual F-rank has been a farce from day 1. Here's hoping they put a stop to it (Yeah who am I kidding? That will never happen!)

He still enjoys company and interacting with people. He's just not compatible with the strict guild hierarchy and everything that comes with it. But certainly if the guild tries to force him, he should quit. Or perhaos try anew in a different country.

I doubt there's a single reader here who didn't consider it a farce.

 

[WillTell]

But nobody is falsifying anything, he is indeed f rank as per guild records.

 

[Miserys_End]

The whole system (or world building) is just messed up if they can't give that freedom that a f ranks have to any other rank.

What's stopping A-S rankers from just not doing what they're told from a noble? Stop them?

It should really be the opposite, F ranks the most restrictive and higher ranks less so.

Except its part of the setting that once an individual reaches Rank B, the guild and government at large can forcefully nominate quests to the adventurer.

True, at Rank F you might not have the freedom to freely choose any quest you want, but the Guildmaster isn't going to call you up to their office and tell you your next volintold mission is up on the border of XY and your target for subjugation is a herd of S Rank dragons that are chewing up a noble's favorite hobby hunting ground.

So the MC chose to stay in Rank F because he was tired of being forced to solve everyone's issues.

 

[Miserys_End]

She feels more like a lazy bureaucrat, trying to force things to fit the established system. Mostly due to laziness, but refusing address (which would require admitting to) to the flaws in the current system is a possibility, and one that Asian cultures seem to be more likely to instill in people to some extent.

There are a lot of people who just try for the easiest and simplest solutions, or the first one that they think of, and will not actually analyse the situation if needed.

Though there are also to many bad bosses out there who expect to be able to tell people to do what they want, and be blindly obeyed by those they see as under them, with no repercussions.

She could be up to something. However the risk of failure makes me think it is more likely to be a case of she, and the guild in general, wants the ranks to reflect ability as accurately as possible, and this was her first idea on how to correct a oversite she became aware of. As opposed to talking to Yuri and negotiating a compromise.

That's one possibility, while another is control. It's rare that guild leadership and governmental officials would want powerful individuals moving around freely in their areas of authority. What are their affiliations and motives. It also makes it more difficult to make use of their great potential.

So having the MC wonder around as an F Rank means their options to control him are very limited.

 

[Marnheus]

One thing that seems to be missed is that his morality was challenged too. One reason someone could have to remain F rank while clearly overpowered could be to go in party of low levels to kill them. What was also validated is that he's not that kind of guy.
I my opinion, S rankers go beyond the ranking system, it's a way to flag someone as too dangerous to be messed with while recognizing him as a "good guy" that you can try to reach out to when you're in trouble.
That might already be more than what the Mc would like, but n this case he should have refrained to show his awesomeness to people

 

[Jiel]

What exactly is the problem? It's not like he would be clearing all the F-rank quests in cities, leaving nothing for the newbie adventurers. Many a higher rank adventurer would merely think he's an idiot, wasting his time working for pennies when he could instead earn enough to buy a castle. The only concrete "problem" is that there are higher rank idiots who can only judge people based on their public, official rank. When those fools are humiliated, they take it personally and considered themselves the offended party, even though they are the original bullies.



He still enjoys company and interacting with people. He's just not compatible with the strict guild hierarchy and everything that comes with it. But certainly if the guild tries to force him, he should quit. Or perhaos try anew in a different country.

I doubt there's a single reader here who didn't consider it a farce.

The real problem here is that the author has been milking the shock value too much.

The MC, despite already living through 2 lives, has the mental fortitude of a ten years old. He didn't even have the excuse of growing up from a baby. A lot of the confrontation could be avoided if he had just rubbed his 2 brain-cell together and refrained from shoving his F-rank into people's face like some kind of unsolicited d*ck pic.

 

[Wyrm]

I actually kind of agree with both sides here.

The guild cannot just let an OP fighter/mage sit at F-rank. It's totally absurd for the guild and the other adventurers. Plus the MC has been obviously abused the system at times, getting into quests that were clearly way above normal F-rank capabilities by hitching a ride with a higher ranker. He wants all the benefits of a high rank without bothering with the responsibilities.

On the other hand, I can understand his willingness to avoid being treated like some kind of ultimate hero to be worshipped and shouldered with all the responsibilities in the world. He's experienced that twice and it didn't fit with him.

Which leads to one of the smart things he should have done... getting promoted to C-rank. Last rank before compulsory quests and noble requests. But high enough that having a few achievements might still be passed off as luck or just assisting a higher ranking individual. For a while at least. Instead of this, staying at F-rank made his achievements stand out even more.
Otherwise, he could have just taken a more inconspicuous job and avoided the whole adventurer ranking entirely.

He could also have gone to the guild's administrators and negotiated a special position in private. Before it all blew up in public like it did here. Now, it's too late for him to pretend it's a misunderstanding or a private matter. Everybody in the guild here saw the testimonies and the official position of the guild. He can't just shove his F-card in people's faces and tell them "I'm just a weak adventurer" anymore.

The main problem from the beginning was that he acted like a child. Lack of foresight, lack of compromise, fear of responsibilities. This felt a bit contradictory with someone having the experience of two whole lives. Not the wish to stay inconspicuous, but the absolute failure at acting inconspicuous at all. Of planning for a low-profile career. The story seems to blame it on his lack of common sense, but this only goes so far before it becomes plain stupidity instead.

 

[TheProtectorOfPureHeartedGirls]

Goodbye F-Rank word in the title.
Hello S-Rank word in the title.