Shikkoku Tsukai no Saikyou Yuusha - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - The Hero Of Darkness Fall Into The Abyss

[Robbini]

@shanoc5902

Instead of actually being the ones that weakened him, they were the ones that made that possible with their betrayal.
If we go with a military situation, they would be the ones that handed over all the locations of where the troops where, sent as many forces away as possible to make it even easier and then gave the remainders enough alcohol to not even notice an attack and then went and drugged the commander after seducing him, whereas the heroes were the enemies who got the information, then sent their own troops right into this opportunity and captured the commander.
Let's imagine it's a civil war, just to get that 'brotherly' feeling amongst commanders.

Noone wouldn't consider those 3 traitors, unless they consider the cause or side they were on as the traitors, thus anyone betraying them as loyal.
In essence, several parts are what most people would consider as treasonous acts I believe :
[ol]Them actually agreeing to it to begin with, he had saved their lives several times over.
Them fooling him with love, knowing he was extremely naive to begin with (considering the goal he mentioned to them)
Them never actually hesitating about doing it, they never said they were uncomfortable with it, nor asked if they couldn't do it, nor did anything other than trying to redeem their actions to themselves.[/ol]

Basically, the heroes might've been the masterminds and traitors, but noone wouldn't agree that the girls were bigger traitors, because they're the ones that made that betrayal possible, and they had been okay with planning it for years.
The WN has a lot of chapters, but i'm not going to try and find the specific chapters where they likely meet again or it's otherwise mentioned , but if we go by the 'standard' of what really rueful betrayers do after they've done something like that, they ought to instantly leave the hero parties and then either individually or with the three of them, go about doing anything the way the MC would've done or doing anything they could in his honor, anything less than that, either means they're brainwashed or not totally regretful about it, or they're dead.

 

[RagnMunkeez]

Thanks for the translation.

It's always amusing to see people rage over the first chapter to a series and complain about a plotline that hasn't been fleshed out yet.

Also, it is a special kind of stupid to get rid of the person that is literally serving as a deterrent for war. Now if the Demon Lord finds out, he's probably going to get rid of the other heroes in a heartbeat.

 

[Iamnormal]

damn I could really go for some uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh beans right now

 

[shanoc5902]

@Robbini I 100% agree they betrayed him and I don't think this story is going to 'forget' that, the entire reason that I've been focusing on this stuff isn't to say what 'should' happen, nor making excuses. I am not saying that they'll be forgiven out of any sense of realism, I'm saying they'll be forgiven because they're cute girls that the author has gone out of their way to include small bits of empathy and development with despite them going traitor, these bits work against having us hate them, and instead tries to shift our hatred of them to the various other heroes, this seems like a pretty clear attempt to lay down the ground-work to get MC a harem of Wolf girl+girls trying to atone for their past mistakes, which doesn't seem too out there for the type of setting this is trying to fit into (a very RPG-based fantasy world).

When I looked at the comments I saw a lot of people hoping the girls die, so I wanted to make it clear that the author has laid down ground-work to have them attempt to 'atone' for their betrayal. I am just trying to get that info out there so that people who would drop this upon seeing those happen get some advance warning based on the various hints that I picked up on. I may end up being mistaken but between total revenge or harem, I'll just say that this chapter 1 already spent more time on the idea of giving the MC a harem (by giving us his own thoughts while he tried to consider what to do about all three of them confessing to him, which he at the time thought was genuine) rather than revenge (given that he's more given up on the world rather than trying to get revenge).

 

[trilling]

This is so wrong, he deserved better. It feels extra bad since i personally won't be able to blame the girls due to their circumstances. I feel hopeless for mc, wich makes me think that this is not his first occurence like this.

 

[Meridis]

@shanoc5902

back when only part of the chapter was out, I was talking with someone who read the wn about this aspect of the story.

Spoiler

It would seem that this is definitely NOT a revenge story. In fact, I don't know for sure if he even interacts with the girls ever again. As I said then, I feel that that is for the better. What he lost wasn't something permanent and I think it makes more sense for the story to focus on him going on a journey to find all the fragments of his lost power like it's Inuyasha or something than for it to prioritize getting back at the people who slighted him above fixing the slight itself. Since he can fix the problem, it would be childish to focus on revenge over doing that.

 

[Robbini]

@shanoc5902

'I am not saying that they'll be forgiven out of any sense of realism, I'm saying they'll be forgiven because they're cute girls '

Frankly, if they weren't cute or female, there's no way in hell he would've given them the same opportunity to betray him, they would've have had to strike while he otherwise wasn't guarded.

 

[DragonTiger]

It's not a good dark isekai without raping girls and decapitating their heads in the first chapter smh.

 

[Crywolf641]

@shanoc5902 I know. I know. The true target is the heroes who set him up. Yeah I could pretty much see that now since I read the novel.
I'm now more interested to know who that blue haired woman is.
@Qelix uh yeah. The author may actually go with the route of the heroes either dying from something powerful or getting executed.
While the girls may try to atone for their sins or something along those lines. Our M.C doesn't have much thoughts on vengeance.
The best I could think of when he meets them is that he disregards them and moves on or tell him his feelings about their betrayal or something.

 

[Qelix]

@Crywolf641: "The best I could think of when he meets them is that he disregards them and moves on or tell him his feelings about their betrayal or something."
That's what I'm also hoping for. It wouldn't tarnish his good guy image and would be a slight revenge. "I saved your family and ended the blackmailing, but if we ever meet again, don't say Hello." But then people would either complain about him for not killing them or not assimilating them into his harem. -_-

 

[Crywolf641]

@Qelix "or not assimilating them into his harem. " That would just be the most stupidest thing ever if it ever did happen. I could understand the "not killing them" part
but making them into your lovers after that? No chance in hell. Even I would not fall for them and i'm one of the people who loves harem.

 

[Mathiason]

Thanks for the chapter!
Seems the standards of heroes has fallen to being based on powers rather than the total of power, personality, and honor. Can't believe the double standard villains have lately. It's like they think whatever they do is ok just because and laws and morals only apply to other people. They sent underlings to gain his trust so they could make him vulnerable, steal his power, and exile him to some obvious high ranked deadly area because too weak and scared to do it themselves and yet have the gall to say don't hold a grudge? Hope find out circumstances of Emily, Lamia and Luna later on because unlike the heroes they definitely felt conflicted and guilty about what were doing. Wonder if it's something like x hero is either their lord, or someone their lord either looks up to or seeking favor from and had to follow orders to betray Axe. Or x hero holding someone or something hold dear hostage like would destroy their village or provide an extremely rare ingredient or power needed for something that Axe isn't able to provide. With any luck they'll turn up later, apologize sincerely, return the items and some of the crystals with his power back to him when meet up again. Although if it does happen it'll probably be ch100 or so at the earliest. Gotta admit a meeting with both sides asking the other to kill them is definitely new. Can't decide whether would like to see them party with him again or not as they did betray him on one hand and yet their confessions seemed genuine on the other so need to know more before decide one way or another. After all, since were already travelling with him for three years a false confession is unneeded to stay in the party so likely was real. Since Axe MC and start of the story it's safe to say he will live but will be interesting to see what does with the fox. Would be really funny if it turns out that fox is female, able to turn into a human, and for some reason falls for him. Guess will just have to wait and see whether he fulfills the fox's death wish or not and what he does next.

 

[yungxishh]

kill that bitch

 

[Roywocket]

Everything here is effectively guesses since I havn't read the Novel.

Spoiler

The fox thing is incredibly powerful, but also lonely and suicidal like the hero (now). Likely he/she/it was betrayed in a similar manner to the MC by the previously mentioned (by the people that entered the forest). he/she/it has a sense of pride similar to the MC and doesn't want to just die to a small fry and wants the MC to kill them because he/she/it saw the same in him as he did in he/she/it.

However with his powers sealed there is little to no contest and the MC will agree to get their power unsealed in order for them both to have a "Dignified death" at each others hands. Thus they travel the land in what is ultimately a quest to kill themselves, however along the way the find things worth living for (each other). It is the old "Finding things to live for while looking for ways to die" trope. The MC's old "Friends" first show up once the MC start feeling companionship with the fox. They will likely be set up with the quest to kill the monster (the fox) and the MC now wanting to honor their suicide pact will oppose them on those grounds rather than out of revenge.

The previously mentioned demon lord will likely show itself as well, offering the MC one or more of the sealing stones in an effort to tempt him with the prospect of vengeance. The will serve as additional reasoning for the "Heroes" to actually finish the job rather than just teleport the guy away, if only to save themselves.

That is my guess about the direction.

There will likely be a change from the comedy tag to a tragedy tag.

 

[GruntZone360]

If this doesn't turn out into a revenge story then I'm not going to follow it

@Roywocket
Thank you <3 I can drop it now

 

[Kronous]

no revenge? okay i'm out.

 

[Chacha11]

Wanna know more about this ❤❤❤

 

[Boomburst]

@XL I would also call the MC of that series a dumbass too, just in a different way... what he did after the first battle is pretty indicative.

Still... it would kind of be interesting if this manga goes in a different direction. Instead of revenge, he just moves on and continues life. That was nothing more than a bump in the road, and he picked himself up, brushed himself off, and continued walking. Those three other heroes? Don't matter a damn. Those girls? Don't fucking matter. True revenge isn't making their lives a living hell, it's continuing to be the strongest hero even after everything they attempted.

 

[prayan18]

kill them all

 

[botodopo]

im fine with him not becoming a lunatic and torturing everyone, but doing literally nothing to any of them would be pathetic. they set him up to die, even without any betrayal they still deserve to be punished.

unless he just becomes a hermit and stays in the forest or something, but if he rejoins society and meets them and just allows them to continue being pricks with no repercussions for what they did to him, thats lame