Slayer Volte - Vol. 3 Ch. 13

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This fucking plot. "Oh, you know, Himmler tried turning his life around. Don't you think the Nazis deserve a second change? He's really a quite nice guy."
 
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@Pyoro Maybe once you're out of your diapers you can appreciate characters that aren't completely 1 dimensional. People are way too accustomed to "this is the good character" and "this is the bad character". This manga is luckily better than that.

The Ellia was built up as a character, showing her complete emotional neglect as a child building up to a state of manic in search for even the slightest bit of recognition is to me very human. Her remorse once snapped out of that mania and the guilt she feels for her sins is also very human. The plot isn't "Himmler was a good guy", it's about two separate arcs of redemption and revenge by characters with actual emotions. If a person undergoes actual true change then they do deserve a second chance, if you don't accept that then you're literally just out for vengeance for your own satisfactions sake and not for any actual wish for the betterment of society.

Stop being so juvenile.
 
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@Kungkaviar What makes Volte and the premise interesting is that for once it's a genuinely motivated anti-hero. Nobody's claiming she's a hero on a white horse out to betterment of the lands. She's literally out for vengeance for her own satisfaction. It her entire friggin' reason for being in the first place - sheer spite (well, and magic help). It that regard it doesn't matter whether the Princess is good, bad, or anything in between; even if her actions were complete justified (they weren't) it'd still be perfectly understandable for Volte to react the way she did. That what makes the story interesting and different.

This whole shounen-type "oh, we'll get them together and then they'll talk and they'll both acknowledged their faults and move on and there'll be rainbows and unicorns and maybe they'll fix the big bad together with the power of friendship and everyone will just forgive the past and move on" development meanwhile is painfully cliché and overused and predictable.
 
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@Veny it still was since she only came up with the plan to play dead and hitch a ride at the very end after they beat her up for an entire chapter

@Pyoro he do be cute tho
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thing is it doesnt matter how much she tries to kill herself "serves her right" is the only reasonable reaction
you cant white phosphor bomb an orphanage and then cut your wrists for 2 years and boom now you deserve to be forgiven
it doesnt matter why they did it and if they regretted it 2 minutes or 2 months later
 
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oh yeah sure commit genocide kill your own people and spend their lives like pennies but the victims have to forgive lmao. im still reading because i like slayer, but if the author wanted a story of revenge and redemption maybe choosing someone who was so obsessed with gaining her father's approval that she murders a tonne of people was not the best choice for a "we're all friends now" kind of route. i liked Shut Hell since initially everyone's desires and wishes were diametrically opposed but one character gave them hope; unwittingly many characters united to create a chance for that hope. but there was an actual buildup to that... not just a sudden "oh im a shy anime princess now and i deeply regret my wrongdoings, make sure you feel sorry for me and forgive me in the next five chapters" (sidenote, imagine if genghis khan pulled this in Shut Hell adjkfhaskkajsd)
 
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The princesses' regrets are all focused on herself. 'I' betrayed 'my' people, 'my', principles, 'my' faith. Yusuf's hamhanded restatement-exposition of the Ratt brothers' backstory tries to make Volte think about other people's inherent rights to life and dignity, but Elia herself, the 'redeemed' character, still doesn't care about those things.

This series is generally a good setting and premise, marred by a poor writer with wooden characters and clumsy setup/payoff.
 
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This fucking plot. "Oh, you know, Himmler tried turning his life around. Don't you think the Nazis deserve a second change? He's really a quite nice guy."
"Hmmm... let me make a strawman, so I feel good about myself! That'll show people how smart I am!"
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