Slime Seijo - Vol. 2 Ch. 9 - A Tea Party Invitation

[Kamui]

A normal church in a world where holy magic is real, can come with all kinds of interesting plot hooks too. From "friendly" rivalries between senior priests with different interpretations of the doctrine, to crusading for holy artifacts, to needing people who will make sure the church's charitable works go well.
But I guess Japanese authors find it hard to imagine them.

They just dislike organized religion for lots of historical reasons. Hell, even all the new "cults" that keep appearing there are distrusted by basically anyone outside them regardless of anything they do.

 

[Ungrave]

Will: Saints also maintain the effect of barriers to keep monsters from entering towns.
Jelly: I can do something similar with my slime abilities.

I get the sense that she doesn't know what a barrier is...

 

[FloorRoof]

Are the barriers even real?

An image that popped into my mind was that of a T-800 Terminator who unlike other machines could travel in time thanks to its organic exterior.
Maybe the revived Jelly can counteract the barrier due to being part fleshbag and/or because of the mimicked blood?

They just dislike organized religion for lots of historical reasons.

This is fine, but some variety in the type of villainy could be nice. Stuff like zealous Templars, political chessmaster cardinals, or troublesome heretics.

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

A loli saint! Finally, a sexy character.

 

[Carn109]

Good luck with the tea party slime jelly

 

[JustSomeoneElse]

Will's gotta be the biggest Lady Jelly Glazer around

 

[sakurabonx3]

"Barriers to keep monsters from entering towns." He said to a slime who has taken over the body of a human.
Are the barriers even real?


A normal church in a world where holy magic is real, can come with all kinds of interesting plot hooks too. From "friendly" rivalries between senior priests with different interpretations of the doctrine, to crusading for holy artifacts, to needing people who will make sure the church's charitable works go well.
But I guess Japanese authors find it hard to imagine them.

So.. Saint Cecilia and Pastor Lawrence? I honestly do appreciate them painting the different colors of idea of saints and churches As simple and cute the story is on the surface

 

[chojinra]

Will's gotta be the biggest Lady Jelly Glazer around

…. Technically, he’d be the one getting glazed.

 

[Coldlight]

The part about the Saint maintaining barriers is something she can't fake so easily like healing. She should be more worried about that. There's this feeling like she's naively walking straight into a lion's den with visiting Celestria. But Jelly the 2nd isn't a normal human either, and it could be interesting if Celestria were to notice something.

 

[SovietWeeb]

I like to imagine the OG Saint is still around. I like the idea that maybe a maid or some peasant villager girl dies, and the MC puts her into that body. I love the idea of evil Saint now being a peasant. Not old enough to really work, and now having to get by, maybe have her eventually find a path to salvation by the MC who sees her and has her become a maid.

Then again, would be funny to see the Saint rage and get mad at someone possessing her body, and being treated as a low class person.

 

[chairlight]

It feels strange going on manga hiatus and reading a webnovel about a human turned into a slime girl, coming back to a slime who became a human.

 

[ClemCa]

The fact she wonders but doesn't use her memories is....

 

[looc64]

"Barriers to keep monsters from entering towns." He said to a slime who has taken over the body of a human.
Are the barriers even real?


A normal church in a world where holy magic is real, can come with all kinds of interesting plot hooks too. From "friendly" rivalries between senior priests with different interpretations of the doctrine, to crusading for holy artifacts, to needing people who will make sure the church's charitable works go well.
But I guess Japanese authors find it hard to imagine them.

I feel like there are a few interesting ways you could go depending on how holy power is inherited.

If it's random or genetic it would be interesting to explore what people who have super high status for internal reasons would be like. A lot of stories where a small number of people have fantastical powers will make most of those people nobles who judge people based on stuff like pedigree and etiquette when really those things should be completely eclipsed by who has powers and who doesn't.

If there's a god or something who decides who gets holy power then yeah that would result in churches being dramatically different.

 

[flannan]

I feel like there are a few interesting ways you could go depending on how holy power is inherited.

If it's random or genetic it would be interesting to explore what people who have super high status for internal reasons would be like. A lot of stories where a small number of people have fantastical powers will make most of those people nobles who judge people based on stuff like pedigree and etiquette when really those things should be completely eclipsed by who has powers and who doesn't.

If there's a god or something who decides who gets holy power then yeah that would result in churches being dramatically different.

I'd say there are only two ways to have church spellcasting without the church becoming something else than a church:
1) The church spellcasters have the same magic talent as secular spellcasters, but church teaches them to use magic in god-approved way.
2) God grants holy magic to people who deserve it. Church teaches how one can become such a deserving person.

If you go with hereditary magic, and mages organized into a Church, that would be pretty much the same as warrior aristocracy, but with slightly different trappings.

 

[looc64]

I'd say there are only two ways to have church spellcasting without the church becoming something else than a church:
1) The church spellcasters have the same magic talent as secular spellcasters, but church teaches them to use magic in god-approved way.
2) God grants holy magic to people who deserve it. Church teaches how one can become such a deserving person.

If you go with hereditary magic, and mages organized into a Church, that would be pretty much the same as warrior aristocracy, but with slightly different trappings.

I think it depends on whether you're talking about a real life church or the ideal version of a church.

Your first case could be like a real life church, especially if training to become a church spell caster was a privilege such that people with money/power were more likely to have access to it.

Your second case would result in an ideal version of a church, which would be very different from a real church. Like if members of a reasonably large religious organization were suddenly given powers relative to how virtuous/faithful they were you'd see high ranking members who couldn't cast shit and low/no ranking members who could do crazy shit.

 

[flannan]

I think it depends on whether you're talking about a real life church or the ideal version of a church.

Your first case could be like a real life church, especially if training to become a church spell caster was a privilege such that people with money/power were more likely to have access to it.

Your second case would result in an ideal version of a church, which would be very different from a real church. Like if members of a reasonably large religious organization were suddenly given powers relative to how virtuous/faithful they were you'd see high ranking members who couldn't cast shit and low/no ranking members who could do crazy shit.

Note that in both churches, one's position in administrative hierarchy doesn't need to match one's magical ability. These could very well be separate career tracks. Just like real-world hospital director usually is not the best surgeon.

One can expect that in a world where god grants holy magic freely the church will be slightly more well-behaved than in the real world, but only to the level of not being worse than the general population.

 

[looc64]

Note that in both churches, one's position in administrative hierarchy doesn't need to match one's magical ability. These could very well be separate career tracks. Just like real-world hospital director usually is not the best surgeon.

One can expect that in a world where god grants holy magic freely the church will be slightly more well-behaved than in the real world, but only to the level of not being worse than the general population.

I guess it depends on how holy magic is distributed.

If it was similar to this story where there are only a few people with holy power and they should really be using it for stuff that isn't running a church then yeah the surgeon example makes sense. Similar to real world religions where the most important member is chosen from birth so there needs to be a power structure that can still run when that person is a 5 year old.

If it's more like a Dungeons and Dragons scenario where a you get get powers by worshipping and making vows to a god and lose them by not worshipping or breaking those vows then I think people would expect the higher ups of the church for that god to have powers proportionate to their rank.