Sonna Kazoku nara Sutechaeba? - Vol. 4 Ch. 24

[HaxtonFale]

There is no path to improvement. Any improvement in the situation would be by sheer author say so, not as the logical conclusion to escalating an already stable-if-terrible relationship.

...I disagree. The belief that it can only get worse, that they are better off continuing to suffer from the abuse rather than breaking free, is something abusers foster in their victims to make them give up before they even try.

Reitarō can (and should) fight for himself and his daughter; if nothing else, believe that there is a way forward, that his wife's word is not absolute, and maybe start making sure he will succeed instead of his... unwell wife.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

...I disagree. The belief that it can only get worse, that they are better off continuing to suffer from the abuse rather than breaking free, is something abusers foster in their victims to make them give up before they even try.

Reitarō can (and should) fight for himself and his daughter; if nothing else, believe that there is a way forward, that his wife's word is not absolute, and maybe start making sure he will succeed instead of his... unwell wife.

A) They will not break free from the abuse. Reitarou will break free from some of the current abuse.
B) Reitarou is not interested in more conflict. He's avoiding it just fine as is, and he's perfectly content with the situation. A divorce is a painful enough situation absent abuse. Having your child held hostage by a deranged lunatic will amplify this issue exponentially.
C) They don't do Joint Custody in Japan. When she gets the kid, she gets the kid. To divorce, they're likely going to need to separate. Reitarou is not about to kick the wife out of the home, so he'll be staying away from them. Wife will be living with the child, while Reitarou is away, so she gets custody. Reitarou will get a pile of rocks to kick, while wife gets to deny him any time with his own kid.

 

[HaxtonFale]

All I see you saying really is that it's better that Reitarō breaks down mentally than even try to save himself and his child because he might fail, because he will make this or that mistake. I find this logic more than a little bizarre.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

All I see you saying really is that it's better that Reitarō breaks down mentally than even try to save himself and his child because he might fail, because he will make this or that mistake. I find this logic more than a little bizarre.

You forgot to reply. Also, you need to empathize here. He decides what's best for his life. And he'd rather avoid conflict and keep seeing his daughter than jump ship on his own. He's not going to keep his daughter, his daughter is going to be stuck raised by that, except now she's a single mother, and even after all that intense conflict, it doesn't even guarantee he'll be rid of her. Step outside of yourself and imagine what it's like to be someone else for a moment.

 

[HaxtonFale]

You forgot to reply. Also, you need to empathize here. He decides what's best for his life. And he'd rather avoid conflict and keep seeing his daughter than jump ship on his own. He's not going to keep his daughter, his daughter is going to be stuck raised by that, except now she's a single mother, and even after all that intense conflict, it doesn't even guarantee he'll be rid of her. Step outside of yourself and imagine what it's like to be someone else for a moment.

I didn't feel the need to quote the post directly above mine.

And I'm saying all this as someone who has survived domestic abuse. Someone who got away from her abuser, and who had a chance to see how badly the abuse has broken her. This is poison, it's killing him and his daughter. It's his prerogative to reject a way to actually survive, just as it's mine to call it out for the obvious bullshit it is.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

I didn't feel the need to quote the post directly above mine.

If I didn't specifically set the thing to watch every thread I post on, I wouldn't even have known.

And I'm saying all this as someone who has survived domestic abuse. Someone who got away from her abuser, and who had a chance to see how badly the abuse has broken her. This is poison, it's killing him and his daughter. It's his prerogative to reject a way to actually survive, just as it's mine to call it out for the obvious bullshit it is.

I see the perspective that confronting or fighting against an abusive spouse might seem like a proactive or empowering course of action. However, considering Reitarou's situation and his desires, direct escalation appears to counteract his intentions and could potentially exacerbate an already volatile situation.

Reitarou’s reluctance to confront or engage in actions that might lead to more intense conflict, such as a contentious divorce, stems from a deeply rational concern for the well-being and future of his daughter, as well as the preservation of his own peace and safety. His approach, characterized by a desire to avoid a massive conflict is not about merely passivity; it's a strategic choice to navigate a complex and potentially harmful situation as safely as possible, and one that reflects his own personal vision for his life.

The idea of fighting back, especially in the context of an abusive relationship, must be weighed against the possible consequences. For Reitarou, the risk of escalating abuse, losing access to his home and daughter, and enduring a grueling legal battle represent significant and tangible threats. These are not just hypothetical outcomes; they are realistic concerns that could have lasting impacts on all involved, especially the most vulnerable.

What's crucial here is the exploration of alternatives that align with Reitarou's priorities and the safety of his family. This might include seeking discreet professional support, legal counsel well-versed in such matters, and safe, strategic planning for any future actions. It’s about finding a path that respects his desire to maintain stability and safety for himself and his daughter, rather than pushing for confrontation that doesn't align with his wishes or could lead to more harm.

I appreciate the intention behind the suggestion to fight the abuse directly. Yet, given Reitarou's circumstances and goals, a more measured and strategic approach that prioritizes safety and long-term stability seems more in line with what he’s aiming for. Finding the right support and resources to navigate this carefully is key.

 

[HaxtonFale]

I appreciate the intention behind the suggestion to fight the abuse directly. Yet, given Reitarou's circumstances and goals, a more measured and strategic approach that prioritizes safety and long-term stability seems more in line with what he’s aiming for. Finding the right support and resources to navigate this carefully is key.

It seems like we were talking past each other a bit when we're in agreement. What I picked up from Reitarō's words is that he does not want to do anything at all, and instead continue to exist in this toxic situation; he absolutely should find the right support and resources to make sure his daughter can get out safely.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

It seems like we were talking past each other a bit when we're in agreement. What I picked up from Reitarō's words is that he does not want to do anything at all, and instead continue to exist in this toxic situation; he absolutely should find the right support and resources to make sure his daughter can get out safely.

In an effort to ensure all my responses are respectful and abide by community guidelines, I've opted to use AI technology for drafting my messages. This decision comes in light of past experiences where my words were perhaps misconstrued, leading to reports and moderation actions that felt personal rather than procedural. As such, the length, and to an extent, the contents, of the messages are outside of my control. Any specific remedies for the current situation should not be taken as my own.

My intention is not to circumvent the system or to provoke, but rather to demonstrate a commitment to constructive and polite discourse, even in the face of disagreement. The AI, by design, is incapable of producing responses that violate community standards of respect and decorum, though due to this, it will often add, or omit, information to comply with its directive to provide maximally-polite responses.

This approach is also a response to what I perceive as a tendency among some users to report comments as a means of silencing differing opinions, rather than engaging in open discussion. It's important to me that my contributions to this community remain positive and within the bounds of our shared rules.

Should there be any issue with my messages now, given they are crafted to ensure compliance with our guidelines, it would highlight concerns regarding the consistency and fairness of moderation practices. It is my hope that this method will not only prevent misunderstandings but also encourage a reevaluation of how we, as a community, handle dissent and dialogue.

My ultimate goal is to participate in meaningful conversations and share perspectives in a manner that is respectful to all parties involved. I believe this approach aligns with the spirit of our community and underscores the importance of fairness and open-mindedness in moderation.

 

[sebaasdf]

Asshole

 

[Sunspawn]

I didn't feel the need to quote the post directly above mine.

And I'm saying all this as someone who has survived domestic abuse. Someone who got away from her abuser, and who had a chance to see how badly the abuse has broken her. This is poison, it's killing him and his daughter. It's his prerogative to reject a way to actually survive, just as it's mine to call it out for the obvious bullshit it is.

What he is trying to hammer into your thick skull is that the daughter is not going to get away from her abuser (and we had enough instances of clearly deranged behavior from the mother towards her to say that this is the situation) and Reitaro leaving will only take away her primary emotional support and leave her alone and unprotected with a psycho. Are you blind to this or do you want to win an internet argument that badly?

 

[ItchyBombastic]

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[chusetto]

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[thedinowarrior]

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