SSS-Class Revival Hunter - Vol. 2 Ch. 70
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Kind of hard to take this breakdown seriously when at the heart of the matter it's due to Korean wuxia authors recontextualising 武林 from 'the social context of (fictional) outlaw martial artists in ancient China' to 'literally a whole new fantasy world'.
There aren't supposed to be fishermen or prostitutes in the wulin, unless they are also part of the society of martial artists divorced from the Imperial secular world. That's why it's the wulin.
There aren't supposed to be fishermen or prostitutes in the wulin, unless they are also part of the society of martial artists divorced from the Imperial secular world. That's why it's the wulin.
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true, but murim / wuxia is more of a jumping-off point for these types of series. it's a proper genre outside of the original context.
i get a lot more out of these stories by ignoring the historical aspect and just treating jt like a specific type of fantasy world. your criticism is valid, but i don't think it matters??? if that makes any sense???
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I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think it's a valid point because I'm not criticising the genre as it is. I'm just pointing out that her argument is ridiculous. Essentially, what she's saying is:
'Why is the setting of this genre so exclusionary?'
and the answer is
'Because newer authors from a different country have taken the trappings of the genre without considering context or the need to translate them to a new context.'
That's not a deep or meaningful reflection on the human condition or anything, lol. It's not a question that says anything or provokes any real thought because there's one singular correct answer and it's a stupid one.
It's the same as a character asking 'Why does our realm, Secret Underground Sex Gladiator Alliance, care so little about accountants and fishermen?' when the answer is 'Because all the new authors have decided that the Secret Underground Sex Gladiator Alliance isn't the name of a secret alliance of people, but the name of literally a whole fucking alternate universe, due to geopolitical considerations and real world politics and extremely mild xenophobia.'
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yeah that's fair.
I think the story is reflecting an atmosphere where warriors are prized over all other classes. that may not be a common trait in Chinese history or even Korean history, where martial arts was an integrated part of society --- a cog in a machine if you will. But it does fit wuxia fuction really well (as well as Japanese shogunates).
This is why I'm saying we should look at murim as a seperate genre. this dark master is criticizng the general murim world that places a lot of emphasis on martial skill. yes that's kind of stupid by historical standards, but in the context of this genre and the worlds it creates, it makes perfect sens.
Murim / Wuxia is only loosely based on history. it's really its own thing at this point. So we need to look at characters' critique in that context, not in relation to the real world.
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No she's not, lol. She's criticising the orthodoxy that is focused around the genre trope organisations. She, herself, as well as her organisation, value martial skill and from everything we've seen of her seemed to encourage teaching it.
Their organisation functions by picking out the people dissatisfied with the orthodoxy and training them to the peak of martial skill.
But that orthodoxy is only exclusionary because it was meant to represent a tiny outlaw minority.
Well if you remember the existence of the outer sect and the test regarding that... they don't really seem to be encouraging it. Though they obviously require more people to join as martial artists to continue to exist, it seems that people join the demonic cult with the wish of weaponizing their pain.
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Because the rest have no talent under their particular set of skills, if you remember how their martial arts work. Better to farm rice for the ones who are worth nurturing. They encourage its perpetuity.
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MC legits learned the secret technique before becoming a demonic cult members and already reached the level of masters within the cults lol.
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idk rlly know whats going on in the comments but i would like to bring up that when they said “the ones you love will never be perfect” they showed a scene with the witch
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^Maybe it's platonic love or smth cuz the witch def loves how Gong-ja handled floors 11-20 at the very least.
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You know, I felt they hand-waved the original 11 years of suicide pretty hard in the initial chapters, but circling back to it being the MC's own repressed unresolved trauma that is, in itself, a source of strength beyond lacking a fear of death, especially in such a way that the MC realizes that they've been holding it in this whole time, is actually a pretty damn good way to resolve that issue.
And I love that the last defined death in the art was his first real death, when he still feared it in his desperate first life, and that she immediately recognized that this death was special, and one he was intimately familiar with in a different way than the others.
And I love that the last defined death in the art was his first real death, when he still feared it in his desperate first life, and that she immediately recognized that this death was special, and one he was intimately familiar with in a different way than the others.
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fair point with a lot of wuxias being the victim of overused tropes and oversaturation but here the verboseness actually is saying something and has a purpose other than "oh look at me I have this super complicated art that has so much history look at me this is so powerful" and instead takes advantage of who the protagonist is and their history to extract fitting elements of wuxia with a spin to tell an actual story other than just a buck a pop "power fantasy"
(but to just demean something cause it's "edgy" doesn't always make a story lesser. It's fine to find something cool or cringe but to write it entirely off cause it includes "edgy" elements really isn't fair. I mean a lot of people find devil may cry fun and that game series is dripping with edge but a lot of people enjoy it. Funnily enough most people eventually circle around from the cringe stage back to it's cool stage. Though I will admit watching chuunibyou in action sometimes does give me second hand embarassment and I guess not it's not for everyone. After all media meant for everyone is for noone and we all know how that feels with recent movie releases) But this was just me wanting to late night ramble. Hope you have a good day, and stay hydrated cause I keep forgetting to myself.
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