Starting out as Friends With a Yankee Girl - Vol. 1 Ch. 1

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just to confirm, you identify with the female lead
Quite clearly I don't identify with the female lead, as I said I would have done things differently.
I'm placing myself in the perspective of this character; that's different.

as a heterosexual/bisexual female, right?
Pseudoscientic concepts such as “sexual orientations” play no factor in my decision here.
I am answering from the perspective of that a hypothetical other person of indeterminate gender, whom I have never spoken with, who has only seen what I look like, wants to spend time with me — my own sex, as well as that of the other person is not relevant for my decision to decline.

so I can't decipher whether you want us to think of you as a heterosexual/bisexual girl, or whether you want us to think of you a homosexual female/male, or something else.
I do not want you to think of me as anything in particular as none of the categories you listed are relevant to my decision — what is relevant is that the person accosting me does not know me and has only seen what I look lik, and that is the only thing I commented on.

Do I also need to put Myers–Briggs or zodiac signs into consideration? blood type?

I'll reply by assuming you want us to think of you as a heterosexual female because otherwise: there is no point in this discussion and your 'to be fair...' comment would be irrelevant to this manga:
Of course there is. My own sex has no bearing on my logic here and “sexual orientations” have no bearing on anything as they're flagrant pseudoscience.

Your mentality makes me think you'll reject some high level guys
No “guy” who wants to socialize with me, having never spoken to me at all, is “high level” in my own præferences.

because men literally have to be go against their instincts to pursue you. Looks aren't just about straight up beauty, but general surface impression, so if a guy hasn't decided they like you based on your looks , they're probably instinctually not really impressed by you and wouldn't even bother being friends with you.
And yet I've encountered many males, and females for that matter, that were very much interested in talking to me based on things I said that didn't even know what I looked like — nor knowing my gender by the way, that thing you seem to care so much for.

Therefore, if a guy pursues you, I strongly advise you to either start of as friends or date casually to really get to know each other before you decide if the 'like' can be 'love'
I have no interest in being “persued” by anyone who knows nothing about me.

If you don't heed my advice, I wish you happiness in being single, or happiness with another girl.
And yet without heeding your advice, my love life with males has been as successful as with females.

P.s.: Finally, let's simply be honest that such a scenario is unlikely to happen, at least where I live. Perhaps this is more common in Japan with the “love confession” culture, but here in the Netherlands the idea of asking a total stranger for a relationship is considered flagrantly ridiculous so it's all a theoretical quæstion for me to begin with. I will most likely live my entire life and die without this ever happening to me, especially because I've long past the secondary school years where this would perhaps be the most likely to occur.

In real life, at least where I live, one does not go out to ask a stranger whom one doesn't know for a relationship, exactly because it is so ridiculous as I said it is.
 

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I'm placing myself in the perspective of this character,
you clearly are not because you are judging both of them based on dating culture in your culture (netherlands), which as you mentioned is quite different from japan ;
also, their gender & heterosexual (or bisexual) orientation is part of their perspective and character

wants to spend time with me
is very different from your previous statement
asking me out
, because unlike friendship, both of your sexual orientation is very important to whether you can date

I my own sex, as well as that of the other person is not relevant for my decision
....so you're taking back your words :
I have no interest in hanging out with a man who decides that he likes me

No “guy” who wants to socialize with me, having never spoken to me at all
you clearly 'have no interest in hanging out with a man' but please don't be so judgmental of others like the two in this manga who are interested in romance, it just makes you seem like sour grapes

And yet I've encountered many males, and females for that matter, that were very much interested in talking to me based on things I said that didn't even know what I looked like — nor knowing my gender by the way, that thing you seem to care so much for.
this is ridiculous... because you're basically saying that : random online people whom you don't know the gender/age/sexual orientation, and who may not be looking for a relationship, are better dating material than a person whom 1. you've seen 2. has seen you 3. is your preferred gender, 4. prefers your gender, and 5. is looking for a relationship.

I think you've secluded yourself in your room for too long so I advise you to go out and talk to a people after COVID is over

Since you've already taken back your words, and started spewing nonsense. I'm done with this debate. Goodbye!
 
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you clearly are not because you are judging both of them based on dating culture in your culture (netherlands), which as you mentioned is quite different from japan
Fair enough, let me rephrase: “I'm answering specifically what I would do when someone who doesn't know me asked me out; I'm placing myself in that part of the perspective of the character.
I do not live in Japan, nor am I a high school student, nor am I blond, etc., etc..

My original comment was simply “To be fair, I wouldn't want to get to know some random chap that asked me out knowing nothing about me." — I'm placing myself in that part of the perspective, specifically.

because unlike friendship, both of your sexual orientation is very important to whether you can date
For my, both my friendship, and sexual, orientation is “exclusive to those who ask me for a relationship who do not know me” — that is what I communicated.

I have no interest in hanging out with a man who decides that he likes me
Obviously the word “man” and “he” is not taken to be gendered in this context — that is simply how the word is often used and how English works.

you clearly 'have no interest in hanging out with a man' but please don't be so judgmental of others like the two in this manga who are interested in romance, it just makes you seem like sour grapes
No, it makes me seem like someone who isn't interested in a “person” [if you præfer this phrasing] who wants anything from me, not knowing me at all — that was what I intended to communicate with my original comment.

this is ridiculous... because you're basically saying that : random online people whom you don't know the gender/age/sexual orientation, and who may not be looking for a relationship, are better dating material than a person whom 1. you've seen 2. has seen you 3. is your preferred gender, 4. prefers your gender, and 5. is looking for a relationship.
No, not random persons, persons whom one has actually seen say things in i.r.c. channels or discord chats that make them interesting.
When one sees a ma... person talk in a public chatroom, or perhaps a forum such as this one can gain an indication of his personality that is obviously more reliable than simply seeing his face and having never spoken to him or hearing him speak to others.

You are the one so obsessed with gender, I am not so this “præferred gender” business you hold in such value is not of any particular concern to me.

I think you've secluded yourself in your room for too long so I advise you to go out and talk to a people after COVID is over
I think you'd do wisely to not assume such things about others.

Since you've already taken back your words, and started spewing nonsense. I'm done with this debate. Goodbye!
Only under your interpretation of the word “man" as implying any gender — that's simply not how the word is commonly used in English.
 

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I'm already done with this debate but I think you need some English lessons as closing ; I don't know what the language is like in the netherlands, but online, and in english speaking countries your usage is no good:

chap = male https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=aQurX667EMn5-gTJ97QY&q=chap+british+slang&btnK=Google+Search

man generally refers to male ; yes, person is a better non-gender term,

and I shouldn't need to explain 'he'

so most of your comments have gender nuance.

also I've never seen people use 'præfer' so I strongly recommend you don't use it, because many people might be confused by it
 

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