Stealing sites :rejected:

Stealing sites :rejected:

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • No

    Votes: 14 77.8%

  • Total voters
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What if the soonest chapter will be released with watermark "Mangadex.org" (those chapters will have special tag) so sites that only steal chapters will have watermark and after week or so reupload chapter without watermark for those people who can't read with watermark (whine about it). Because right now for example "Champion Scans" (with 2 weeks delay) chapters can be read on these sites within a day that was released on their site. Sorry for bad english.
These watermarks will be very small in corners without text.
 
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The delay exists to increase the traffic on scanlator's site. Watermarks would need to be released on scanlator's site as well for it to be effective, otherwise the leechers will get the version without marks anyway. Everyone get's watermarked chaper day one so no one need to go to the source. Everyone looses other then the leeching sites.
 
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No, and no chance of them implementing. This is actually one of the biggest reasons scanlators often do NOT like other sites, right next to removing credits page. If they wanted watermarks on their images, they would add them.
To avoid having their credits removed, some do as well. Some are even more clever and add credits into uniforms of the characters, making it both difficult to remove and visually appealing.

Also, it wouldn't affect the manga you are hoping it would at all. If it is readable on the other sites first, that means they didn't steal it from here. In other words, we would just be torturing ourselves with no benefit whatsoever.
 
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then how about only translators without their own site
https://mangadex.org/user/63753/kebabremover
https://mangadex.org/user/20081/emeliak
can choose agree to watermark so stealing sites will have no other option other than having them watermarked or wait week or so
These watermarks will be very small in corners without text.
 
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If you are the scanlator and you want watermarks on your work feel free to do so, i will not stop you. I'm against it being one of MangaDex "policies".
 
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@abio33
I do not know what exactly you are tying to accomplish, so I will break this down.

1) Scanlators (with exception to upstarts) have at least 1 person who LIVES inside an image editor program. If they want a watermark. There will be a watermark. It takes no effort to add it.
If they want to remove it, it only takes only a click of a button/layer to disable it and a couple minutes to re-upload.

2) Its ugly. We don't want to read manga with watermarks randomly placed on the image. When scanlators do it manually, they put it in places more discreet and visually appealing, but a site function would not be able to do that. The watermark would be in places that ruin images and make reading unbearable. It would drive readers away from the series and groups that enable the option. (if you do make it small enough to not be obtrusive, you eliminated the only purpose I can think of for having the watermark to begin with. Additionaly, you need to wory about full page images and longstip comics like manhaw)

3) Its now too much of an edge case. The number of people who would want to enable this feature are very low. There are several who want to promote the site, and they do so by adding MD into their credit page, in page margins (where the page number usually is), and other discreet locations.
Adding these takes virtually no time at all compared to cleaning, redrawing, translating, and typesetting the manga. And would look 1000x better than anything we could possibly do. In other words, only really lazy scanlators, or those with 0 image editing experience would want to do this. When it comes to groups with more than a week of experience, thats almost no one.

I should probably have lead with this:
MD rule 3.2.4 Obtrusive watermarks are not allowed.
 
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For obvious reasons listed above, this suggestion is rejected. We appreciate the effort you went through to help, though!
 

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