Tada no Murabito no Boku ga, Sanbyakunen Mae no Boukun Ouji ni Tensei shite shimaimashita - Ch. 6

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Thanks to the translators! Assassins are one thing, but an idiot dad is a whole nother power level!
Can anyone spoil me why is that so with the current situation right now? Why is there two different origin of "brooch" and "coin"?
Brooch was a desperate guess, that guy was lying to manipulate the girl the entire time, but didn't know exactly what was given.
 
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I personally think MC has been the prince since the beginning, but then he had premonitive dream Inception-style and became a common folk in his dream.
Anyway, his reputation right now is rock bottom. Doesn't have much to lose.
 
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Can anyone spoil me why is that so with the current situation right now? Why is there two different origin of "brooch" and "coin"?
More than likely, it was that time had passed and things get crossed due to that.

Could also be a mistranslation as well, you never know with these sorts of things.

Also, it could also be that this 'Hero' had things rewritten to appear more favorably for him. As they say, history is written from the point of view of the victor.

So, more than likely it was also the other way around in history, where MC and the girl were in love and the 'Hero' interfered. But when the story was written down, it was changed to be the other way. Or the 'Hero' had somehow attained the coin at one point, making her misunderstand who the boy from her memories were.
 
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Can anyone spoil me why is that so with the current situation right now? Why is there two different origin of "brooch" and "coin"?

This is not a spoiler from future chapters, just what I believe is true based on how things have been handled so far:

He just guessed "brooch" because he didn't actually know the answer and took a desperate stab at what he figured it might be (guessing that a woman/girl might share a treasured piece of jewelry with someone they care about is not too crazy, and it would make more sense if it was something meant to be jewelry like a brooch rather than something unique and random like a gold coin mounted into a setting and placed on a chain). It's also why he dodged the question and made up excuses to avoid addressing it until he was cornered by the fact that Maya basically asked him to answer it or see the engagement broken. He had no idea and it was better to not risk answering incorrectly until he had no other choice.

Only Rudolph, Lisbeth, and Maya knew that it was actually a coin. The first two because they were there and Maya because Lisbeth told her. Wilhelm knew of the story, but either a) Rudolph' speculation in this chapter is right and Wilhelm saw them in the garden but couldn't get a clear look at what was exchanged, or b) if he only has knowledge of events as "history" (since it was revealed last chapter that he appears to be reincarnated and aware of how events will unfold in the same way Rudolph is) then he wouldn't know something so specific like that, because the reincarnator conceit of this story seems to be that these are not people isekai'd from a world where this setting is a game or whatever, but that they're reincarnated souls flung back into the past. So the history books of the future would talk about Rudolph's life and how he became a tyrant and Lisbeth killed him, but wouldn't have tiny details like the exchange of a coin when they were kids.
 
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time for my favorite trope in all manga, when an adult mercilessly beats a child because there are rumors going around about how bad the child is! in the novel its not too bad but if they have to stretch it out for a whole manga chapter its not going to be pleasant to read
 
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This is not a spoiler from future chapters, just what I believe is true based on how things have been handled so far:

He just guessed "brooch" because he didn't actually know the answer and took a desperate stab at what he figured it might be (guessing that a woman/girl might share a treasured piece of jewelry with someone they care about is not too crazy, and it would make more sense if it was something meant to be jewelry like a brooch rather than something unique and random like a gold coin mounted into a setting and placed on a chain). It's also why he dodged the question and made up excuses to avoid addressing it until he was cornered by the fact that Maya basically asked him to answer it or see the engagement broken. He had no idea and it was better to not risk answering incorrectly until he had no other choice.

Only Rudolph, Lisbeth, and Maya knew that it was actually a coin. The first two because they were there and Maya because Lisbeth told her. Wilhelm knew of the story, but either a) Rudolph' speculation in this chapter is right and Wilhelm saw them in the garden but couldn't get a clear look at what was exchanged, or b) if he only has knowledge of events as "history" (since it was revealed last chapter that he appears to be reincarnated and aware of how events will unfold in the same way Rudolph is) then he wouldn't know something so specific like that, because the reincarnator conceit of this story seems to be that these are not people isekai'd from a world where this setting is a game or whatever, but that they're reincarnated souls flung back into the past. So the history books of the future would talk about Rudolph's life and how he became a tyrant and Lisbeth killed him, but wouldn't have tiny details like the exchange of a coin when they were kids.
the history books were basically lies told by Wilhelm
 
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Can anyone spoil me why is that so with the current situation right now? Why is there two different origin of "brooch" and "coin"?
I’m quite sure I got it.

Originally mc is supposed to be tyrant prince. So, he was an asshole.

It’s possible Maya was sent too in that history, but came to see an asshole instead.

In that history book, the tyrant “took her away by force” anyways. So this can also play out on how Wilhelm wasn’t found out yet, or his scheme may have also been found out but just wasn’t written.

Or maybe the “tyrant prince” and her got together too, but Wilhelm won in the end and fabricated it as “taken by force.”

This is the origin of the brooch.
It was based on Wilhelm’s lie.

The coin is the true origin that wasn’t written in the history books. After all, history is written by the winners. History is written from the winner’s perspective, or whichever that fits the audience’s narrative. It doesn’t write the mc’s perspective. All that the mc knows is he doesn’t die yet and events to come.
 
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Can anyone spoil me why is that so with the current situation right now? Why is there two different origin of "brooch" and "coin"?
Wilhelm is basically an idiot.

He was eavesdropping the whole time when MC was given the coin, but since he was watching from afar he had zero idea what was being handed over, the round object seemed like a brooch to him. Only three people knew it was actually a commemorative coin and it was the couple and the maid.

The written records from the future were all lies made by Wilhelm. MC was never a Tyrant Prince, and FeMC was never in love with Wilhelm. He just wanted everything for himself and wanted Lisbeth as a trophy.
 
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The father obviously wants to smoke, but he's all outta matches.

Anyway, if I were to hazard a guess, and based on the way it was really emphasising the importance of the other guy knowing what happened - I suspect that he somehow had been possessing the MC's body, and the MC is actually the original spirit of the prince. He knows what happened from the vague memories of MC's body, but doesn't know fully.

... Or so I was guessing, but the spoilers here are more straight forward, HA! :dogkek:
 
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I cringed when the woman of the pair that tripped MC said he looked cool the moment he started dancing better, like sure assholes do exist but i don't think they are that quick to change their opinions.
 
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Wilhelm is basically an idiot.

He was eavesdropping the whole time when MC was given the coin, but since he was watching from afar he had zero idea what was being handed over, the round object seemed like a brooch to him. Only three people knew it was actually a commemorative coin and it was the couple and the maid.

The written records from the future were all lies made by Wilhelm. MC was never a Tyrant Prince, and FeMC was never in love with Wilhelm. He just wanted everything for himself and wanted Lisbeth as a trophy.
Wait... but didn't he say he would have her kill the prince? How would he know that
 
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Wait... but didn't he say he would have her kill the prince? How would he know that
the point the other is a fellow reincarnator like in the isekai otome like the villainess will live her post engagement life freely and we saw the canon heroine was a girl was isekai too, the same in keeping final boss
 
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Nani the fuck kind of reasoning was that for his dancing skills? Firstly, the version we saw from him was clearly pipes + drum while the party mainly has strings.
Ladies changing their opinion on him so fast felt kinda excessive too.

I do think it's funny how her long-standing crush basically molded her preferences until he was exactly her type.

Anyway, time for dad to be overprotective. I'm sure it'll be fine. Though it might be fun if Rudolph turns it into a Lisbeth trivia game so they get to bond over fawning over her.
 

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