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Hmm I see, so it was not NTR when she humbly mistakenly offered her body to him.
Takarakuji de 40 oku Atatta ndakedo Isekai ni Ijuu Suru - Vol. 7 Ch. 37 - Skillful Man
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Wish you could haggle in more stores especially for electronics considering there are plenty which are sold not fully functional. I have had new boards, cards with non functioning ports, scratches dings and bent parts. It makes far more sense to haggle a bit rather than sending that shit back to the manufacturer to end up in a dump since there are people willing to make due with not fully functional equipment.
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I think you're forgetting something. I suggest reading the start of Ch. 35 - No Peace of Mind again when he speaks to Marie. And immediately afterwards when he leaves Marie and starts to talk to Kazura, you can see the contrast between how he treats people of different status, even his own half-sister Marie. And that's not even the worst of it. The reason Marie is terrified of him is because he is always physically beating her bruised until she's black and blue when she used to work at her family's mansion. I would not call an elitist two-faced man who is physically and emotionally abusive a "real good guy".
I think you're forgetting something. I suggest reading the start of Ch. 35 - No Peace of Mind again when he speaks to Marie. And immediately afterwards when he leaves Marie and starts to talk to Kazura, you can see the contrast between how he treats people of different status, even his own half-sister Marie. And that's not even the worst of it. The reason Marie is terrified of him is because he is always physically beating her bruised until she's black and blue when she used to work at her family's mansion. I would not call an elitist two-faced man who is physically and emotionally abusive a "real good guy".
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Thanks for another chapter. Be well.
When it comes to issues of morality in isekai stories (or historical pieces) it is interesting to see people jump to judge things as good or bad based on the social norms of today. Of course most stories don't flesh out their world and characters enough to say this is a good and moral character by the standards of their contemporaries. Now obviously the author is going out of his way to make you not like Alondo, and these types of stories never go into the religious and philosophical underpinnings of their societies (understandable as they're mostly just wish fulfillment stories). Instead they usually go with something closer to modern sensibilities, with some exceptions in order to have nobility and slavery.
Calling Alondo two-faced isn't quite right as I think that only applies to people trying to hide their nature. It seems like Alondo is simply switching modes, like how people change how they act with their friends, vs with their co-workers at the workplace, vs with a romantic partner.
Thanks for another chapter. Be well.
When it comes to issues of morality in isekai stories (or historical pieces) it is interesting to see people jump to judge things as good or bad based on the social norms of today. Of course most stories don't flesh out their world and characters enough to say this is a good and moral character by the standards of their contemporaries. Now obviously the author is going out of his way to make you not like Alondo, and these types of stories never go into the religious and philosophical underpinnings of their societies (understandable as they're mostly just wish fulfillment stories). Instead they usually go with something closer to modern sensibilities, with some exceptions in order to have nobility and slavery.
Calling Alondo two-faced isn't quite right as I think that only applies to people trying to hide their nature. It seems like Alondo is simply switching modes, like how people change how they act with their friends, vs with their co-workers at the workplace, vs with a romantic partner.
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rereading this and a few others. It kinda ticks me off that they are getting lazier with drawing (or they have short deadlines) cause manga/comics is a story that is told like 50% by words and 50% by imagery. The imagery is like gone man
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Thanks for the well wishes.
I highly doubt he'd act the same way he does toward Marie, if both Marie and Kazura were in the same room, let alone even the members of the Istelle family. Now, if it was his father or brother, and half sister in the same room, then he absolutely would act like his true self (the father knows full well what he's like and even encourages this type of manipulative and scheming behavior in both his sons). Despite having the same upbringing, Havel decided to adopt a poker face, while his older brother decided to put on a joker mask over his true face of somebody who takes pleasure in physically abusing others that he sees as beneath him.
That is what I call two-faced. Unless you think it's not two-faced when let's say, a husband acts like the a cool dude at work that everybody likes, while he goes home to beat the shit out of his wife in domestic violence, telling her she's worthless...That's basically what his core character amounts to.
You're welcome to disagree, but my opinion has not changed.
Thanks for the well wishes.
I highly doubt he'd act the same way he does toward Marie, if both Marie and Kazura were in the same room, let alone even the members of the Istelle family. Now, if it was his father or brother, and half sister in the same room, then he absolutely would act like his true self (the father knows full well what he's like and even encourages this type of manipulative and scheming behavior in both his sons). Despite having the same upbringing, Havel decided to adopt a poker face, while his older brother decided to put on a joker mask over his true face of somebody who takes pleasure in physically abusing others that he sees as beneath him.
That is what I call two-faced. Unless you think it's not two-faced when let's say, a husband acts like the a cool dude at work that everybody likes, while he goes home to beat the shit out of his wife in domestic violence, telling her she's worthless...That's basically what his core character amounts to.
You're welcome to disagree, but my opinion has not changed.
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thanks for the translation!
take care and god bless your hairy butt 😂
take care and god bless your hairy butt 😂
I think the word y'all are looking for is fake. Sure, you act different if you are with different people but that is because an aspect of your personality is highlighted. When talking with your mom, you have the role of a son but when with friends you are of equal standing so you will not act the same way. If you are at home with your mom, and your friends come over you will still have the same roles and behaviors, but if your friends start treating you nicer you will know they are being kinda fake because you know their true equal standing personality. Your mom will know they are acting polite too though, so it is acceptable. The MC on the other hand has no idea that guy is actually a prick, his sister is probably one of the few people he has ever shown his actual personality. Hence, the personality he displays to the MC, a stranger whom he wants to gain favor with, is most definitely fake but not two faced as that implies treasonous behavior that I don't remember seeing as of yet.
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Fair enough, but rather than a negative example try a positive one. A husband is lovey-dovey with his wife/GF in private, but when around his co-workers/friends/public he shows no physical intimacy with her. He could just consider it inappropriate to show that to others, rather than viewing him as just pretending to love her. It could also be that social norms dictate that public displays of affection are inappropriate. In your negative case, it might simply be that it is considered bad form to discipline ones servants/slaves in front of others.
Unless it is shown that Alondo views his treatment of her to be immoral/bad/wrong in some way (personally or societally) than it's hard to view him as bad actor from the point of view of his society (obviously he would be a bad actor in our society). Similar to how you can't peg a slave owner as evil when slavery is legal and widespread. Think about the moral principals "meat is murder" or "owning pets/animals is slavery". If someone is not in a society where these are established moral principals then applying them to that person to judge them as good/bad is a bit nonsensical.
Fair enough, but rather than a negative example try a positive one. A husband is lovey-dovey with his wife/GF in private, but when around his co-workers/friends/public he shows no physical intimacy with her. He could just consider it inappropriate to show that to others, rather than viewing him as just pretending to love her. It could also be that social norms dictate that public displays of affection are inappropriate. In your negative case, it might simply be that it is considered bad form to discipline ones servants/slaves in front of others.
Unless it is shown that Alondo views his treatment of her to be immoral/bad/wrong in some way (personally or societally) than it's hard to view him as bad actor from the point of view of his society (obviously he would be a bad actor in our society). Similar to how you can't peg a slave owner as evil when slavery is legal and widespread. Think about the moral principals "meat is murder" or "owning pets/animals is slavery". If someone is not in a society where these are established moral principals then applying them to that person to judge them as good/bad is a bit nonsensical.
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@AMetroid
Point taken about societal norms. But at the very least, Havel views his older brother's actions as reprehensible, so that's one person in their society that views this as "this is wrong/bad" when they are both her half-brothers that grew up with Marie. The way they both treat her is night and day.
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Fake is good way of putting it. And it's funny you mention treasonous behavior...because there are rumors from the novel floating about on other forums that hints
That's purely hearsay though, so I can't confirm, but that remains to be seen as time will tell.
Point taken about societal norms. But at the very least, Havel views his older brother's actions as reprehensible, so that's one person in their society that views this as "this is wrong/bad" when they are both her half-brothers that grew up with Marie. The way they both treat her is night and day.
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Fake is good way of putting it. And it's funny you mention treasonous behavior...because there are rumors from the novel floating about on other forums that hints
at the possibility of Havel's family (father and brother) betraying the kingdom,
making back door deals through their domestic and foreign trade connections as they travel frequently to other territories.
>zirconia throwing herself in
that doesn't... seem like something she'd just do for anyone. valetta is bae and all, but zirconia is some top tier shit. if i didn't think valetta wasn't already going to conquer the planet so she could get some alone time with kazura, i'd say take the deal.
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i think a more common view of two faced would be, using your example:
a guy who beats the shit out of his wife at home but is publicly outspoken about protecting women from domestic violence
i agree with you tho
that doesn't... seem like something she'd just do for anyone. valetta is bae and all, but zirconia is some top tier shit. if i didn't think valetta wasn't already going to conquer the planet so she could get some alone time with kazura, i'd say take the deal.
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i think a more common view of two faced would be, using your example:
a guy who beats the shit out of his wife at home but is publicly outspoken about protecting women from domestic violence
i agree with you tho
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Bro... Take that deal.
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If she did what she must isn't that just saying the nobles are just useless bunch that cannot protect its own people? So why did he helps this useless bunch? I can't comprehend or did i miss something?
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