The reverse harem tag made me think that it had romance but to be honest, I was just venting my frustrations because I recently finished the live action romance genderswap show that I mentioned in my comment and it just made me realise how boringly manga and anime handle genderswap themes and romance in general so I vented my frustrations in the comment 😅.but there is no romance...
The reverse harem tag made me think that it had romance but to be honest, I was just venting my frustrations because I recently finished the live action romance genderswap show that I mentioned in my comment and it just made me realise how boringly manga and anime handle genderswap themes and romance in general so I vented my frustrations in the comment 😅.
Harem tag is irrelevant and completely superflous if the only emotions are friendship, admiration, adoration and people looking up to the MC, there are so many manga that are tagged harem (or the moronic "reverse harem", the reverse of harem would be celibacy) just because there are 3+ people who look up to the MC as a "leader" or father figure that it has diluted the meaning of harem to the point of meaninglesness.why is it marked as reverse harem?
no, there is no romance. the novel does have the 無差別ハーレム tag, which translates to 'indiscriminate harem' but as i said, there is no romance.
edit: Also it's missing the Loli tag. these translators should really stop misstagging the manga... i already reported it as information to correct though.
what are you saying? first of all 'harem' is meant when multiple female characters are almost always around the mc, (also they would have feelings for them or it would just be hinted) reverse harem is the same but with male characters. but that's not my point. the manga in the raw site is not tagged as reverse harem (because there isn't one in the manga yet) and it's tagged for the novel as 'indiscriminate harem' which means both male and female characters.Harem tag is irrelevant and completely superflous if the only emotions are friendship, admiration, adoration and people looking up to the MC, there are so many manga that are tagged harem (or the moronic "reverse harem", the reverse of harem would be celibacy) just because there are 3+ people who look up to the MC as a "leader" or father figure that it has diluted the meaning of harem to the point of meaninglesness.
Loli has reached the point where manga is being tagged loli just because it has a cute, young girl in it (and if that is enough for someone to say it should be tagged loli, I'd recommend therapy before they do something illegal), that's so far off from what loli used to mean that it has lost basicly all meaning as well.
"Always".... Nope, but I give you points for being confident.what are you saying? first of all 'harem' is meant when multiple female characters are almost always around the mc, (also they would have feelings for them or it would just be hinted) reverse harem is the same but with male characters. but that's not my point. the manga in the raw site is not tagged as reverse harem (because there isn't one in the manga yet) and it's tagged for the novel as 'indiscriminate harem' which means both male and female characters.
also i don't understand what you mean with the loli part. in the novel it's tagged as loli so... and loli means a child-like (visually) person. which in this case, the mc is a loli.
edit: for the 'Loli' well technically it's not exactly correct but that's what it is used for, and always was used for in LNs and manga.
First of all i said 'multiple female characters are almost always around the mc' and that's the only time i used the word 'always'"Always".... Nope, but I give you points for being confident.
Harem was originally used for 3+ people of opposite sex (well, only females at the very beginning but was early on switched to mean opposite sex) that were romantically or s*xually attracted to the MC, it was only way later that it started getting wrongly used and diluted to basicly mean anything from family to real harem, as long as there is some "emotion" (loyalty/devotion/admiration/adoration etc), which is where we are today, having a tag that is basicly useless as a describer.
Loli was originally used to mean a young looking seductive and/or s*xually attractive girl, today it's used to mean what you said, any young looking "cute" girl, which is pretty far from the original meaning/intent.
The "modern" changes to the use of the tags has been gradual over the past ~15-20 years, from (atleast) the 70s up until early 2000s they didn't have the diluted meaning they have today.
EDIT: Reverse Harem is a "new-ish" invention and was called "same sex harem" before and indiscriminate harem would be a mixed harem. For a while there was also "female harem" and "male harem"
EDIT 2: There are lots of people who doesn't even touch anime/manga that has the harem tag because they despise the romantic/s*xual type and they miss out on plenty of entertainment that they could actually have enjoyed (and the manga/anime industry also looses out because of it).
There are also plenty of people who like the romantic/s*xual harem types but don't care for the purely "platonic" kinds and feel cheated by the use of the tag.
what are you saying? first of all 'harem' is meant when multiple female characters are almost always around the mc,(also they would have feelings for them or it would just be hinted) reverse harem is the same but with male characters. but that's not my point. the manga in the raw site is not tagged as reverse harem (because there isn't one in the manga yet) and it's tagged for the novel as 'indiscriminate harem' which means both male and female characters.
also i don't understand what you mean with the loli part. in the novel it's tagged as loli so... and loli means a child-like (visually) person. which in this case, the mc is a loli.
edit: for the 'Loli' well technically it's not exactly correct but that's what it is used for, and always was used for in LNs and manga.
"edit: for the 'Loli' well technically it's not exactly correct but that's what it is used for, and always was used for in LNs and manga."First of all i said 'multiple female characters are almost always around the mc' and that's the only time i used the word 'always'
also harem by itself was never used for males, NEVER. not in history and not in fiction.
Reverse harem is when a female character is surrounded by male characters, and it's something that originated in fiction, which also was never used for a person having the same sex as their harem. (except for the mc being also a man, then it would still be reverse harem)
Also there is no romance in this manga!!! ffs i don't get what you are arguing about.
oh, that's what you meant, i forgot i used the word always there, but what you understood is not exactly what i meant. what i mean is that Loli (even if the word had a deferent meaning in that time, and used for a deferent thing) it was still always used for 'child-like' when the protagonist was child-like or an actual little girl."edit: for the 'Loli' well technically it's not exactly correct but that's what it is used for, and always was used for in LNs and manga."
And I'm telling you, it wasn't always used for that, that's a (relatively) recent use for it.oh, that's what you meant, i forgot i used the word always there, but what you understood is not exactly what i meant. what i mean is that Loli (even if the word had a deferent meaning in that time, and used for a deferent thing) it was still always used for 'child-like' when the protagonist was child-like or an actual little girl.
what i am saying is the the tag was also used for cases when it's not seductive or sexually attractive (and it was mostly for manga and anime that it was also used for 'young and seductive or sexually attractive' in LNs they used it as what it means now most of the time). also why did you sensor sexually?And I'm telling you, it wasn't always used for that, that's a (relatively) recent use for it.
Yes, when it was originally used the "subject" was always child-like or a young girl but that wasn't the only requirement, they also had to be seductive and/or s*xually attractive, not just "cute" like today.
I read alot of manga and watched anime from the early 80's up until the early 2000's and picked up the habit again about 7-8 years ago so I know d*mn well what the tags originally meant and what has changed.