The Ancient Magus' Bride - Vol. 8 Ch. 40 - What is bred in the bone will not out of the flesh
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Yeeah... I get she's upset with Ellias, but why in the world would you ever choose to trust Joseph? Maybe her bad habit of trying to save others is pulling her to do this, considering that dream she had of him a few chapters back, but come on...
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Tbh I really lost a lot of respect for the author with this chapter and the last. He could have literally chose any other girl and Chise might have still struggled with the moral dilemma but in the end swallowed it.... Stella is purely used just because she is "randomly" possessed by fuckwit and the the drama factor. Make no never mind that both Ellias and Ruth would know she would react poorly. Just felt almost dirty and cheap plot line to force her to leave with Joseph.
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Truely have to agree. Joseph is a morally corrupt individual that is more then willing to betray any agreement he makes. There is literally no reason to go with him other then he is there and can offer a quick exit. Its come to the point I only see Chise coming out of this because the author just says so rather then a clever plan or some other plausible explanation.
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Truely have to agree. Joseph is a morally corrupt individual that is more then willing to betray any agreement he makes. There is literally no reason to go with him other then he is there and can offer a quick exit. Its come to the point I only see Chise coming out of this because the author just says so rather then a clever plan or some other plausible explanation.
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Oh fuck off Chise. You do all this stupid shit with the "Elias doesn't care about me" mindset and uphold your self-righteousness without thinking about how other people feel, and yet you think he's in the wrong? Sure he might not be able to show it, but you've known him long enough to understand how he feels. None of this shit would've happened if you got your priorities straight. I can't be with a man who wants to clean up my mistake with dirtied hands, so I'll ask help from the guy who's palms are void of color. Good job. Real mature.
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You guys are idiots the chapter literally spelled out exactly why every character did why they did and none of you payed attention
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Wow. Salty responses applenty.
But unforgivably evil bastard as Joseph may be, he probably does have the only valid solution to the dragon curse problem. Seriously.
Chise having to work with him to resolve this has been an inevitability for a few chapters now.
Still, the way they went about it, and the extremity of both Elias's actions and Chise's response to them, all seem a tad unnecessary.
But unforgivably evil bastard as Joseph may be, he probably does have the only valid solution to the dragon curse problem. Seriously.
Chise having to work with him to resolve this has been an inevitability for a few chapters now.
Still, the way they went about it, and the extremity of both Elias's actions and Chise's response to them, all seem a tad unnecessary.
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Wow. That felt seriously forced. Especially compared to everything prior to that point....
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"How dare you have a lapse in judgement that nearly killed an innocent, I'm leaving with this psycho who has callously slaughtered countless innocents for centuries and is certain to do so again in the future!"
Seems like Chise values competence, a true meritocrat. Also, I'm betting Joseph's solution will be at least twice as evil.
Seems like Chise values competence, a true meritocrat. Also, I'm betting Joseph's solution will be at least twice as evil.
Huh - I didn't read this as Chise choosing Joseph, I read it as her rejecting Elias (at least, as he is now). What happens with her and Joseph will be determined in the next chapters, all we know at the moment is that she's rejected Elias. We also need to remember that Joseph is possessing Stella, and Chise's not going to give up on getting Stella back any more than she'll give up on any of her other friends, so under the circumstances it makes sense for her to go away from Elias and stick with Joseph for the moment.
I mean, not that I think it's a good idea to go anywhere with Joseph under basically /any/ circumstances, but it's entirely consistent with Chise's personality, and it doesn't feel forced to me.
I mean, not that I think it's a good idea to go anywhere with Joseph under basically /any/ circumstances, but it's entirely consistent with Chise's personality, and it doesn't feel forced to me.
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You need to see it from their perspective.
She has constantly, constantly pushed and shown no regards to her own life. On multiple occasions now she has acted like her life is worth little to nothing.
You have any idea how much that hurts and weighs those around you that love you? It is an incredible pain to see someone you deeply care about dive headfirst into unnecessary, and nigh suicidal actions again and again and again.
She is a hypocrite. She may not be aware of it yet, but she really is, to a pretty deep level. She doesn't realise how deeply her actions hurt EVERYONE around her. It may be unintentional, but her hands are covered in the blood of those who care deeply about her.
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After having caught up I agree with this. Like all relationships its a two way street. Chise needed to stop endangering herself without keeping her loved ones involved and Elias needed to learn to trust Chise more but neither was possible until they grew further in their bond.
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I have to disagree with you on all points.
1) True, Chise probably will react the same no matter who is used for this ritual... But Stella is a close friend. Joseph figured that out and used her to get close to Chise and plan out whatever he has in mind right now.
2) I don't think Elias actually has any idea where Chise has drawn the line between what's acceptable and what isn't. He purely acted with the sole purpose of saving her in mind, without thinking of the consequences.
3) Ruth is bound to Chise as a familiar: his life depends on hers. If she dies, so does he. Sure, he could accept that and let her go, but right now he doesn't and thus chose to follow Elias' decision.
4) Joseph is indeed far worse than Elias and there is no logic in choosing to go with him... however, what Chise found out at home left her in a state of mind where she could easily think it would be okay to join Joseph's side rather than return home.
Anyway, it's pretty clear to me the author knows what he's doing and does it well.
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extra bit with point 4 here: Joseph has a metaphorical gun against Stella's head, and Chise doesn't trust either Elias or Joseph to not kill her, but has the intuition that she might be able to save her if she goes along for a bit. her choice was either let Joseph kill Stella, let Elise probably kill Stella, who Joseph is controlling, or go along with Joseph to potentially save Stella. this is a question that is hard to answer with ample time let alone the maybe 5-10 seconds she had to make that decision.
