The Blood Princess and the Knight - Vol. 2 Ch. 48 - Making a Move
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Apologies for the late "daily update", I blacked out last night and didn't get around to uploading the chapter until now.
Seeing as Ch50 is the last chapter we have "batch" prepared, we will announce our release schedule,or at least a goal thereof anyways, some staff can be busy with IRL stuff... soon
Seeing as Ch50 is the last chapter we have "batch" prepared, we will announce our release schedule,
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i like how the story is going but these chapters are way too short
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Brutal old man.
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like, I dig it, but the only convincing evidence so far has been the dude's dumbass panicked attempt to circumvent the proceedings. Without corroboration, it's just one witness versus another.
That guy is obviously suspicious with how uncertain he was about the enemy forces, but what makes his words any less believable that the captured guys? We know the truth, but anyone can speak confidently and "he is sus, because he stuttered" won't cut it in a trial.
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Summary:
White says: red sus, saw him vent.
Red answers: white sus, saw them leaving area of body.
White says: but I reported!
Red claims: you double backed to report the body!
Finger pointing ensues.
White says: red sus, saw him vent.
Red answers: white sus, saw them leaving area of body.
White says: but I reported!
Red claims: you double backed to report the body!
Finger pointing ensues.
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You would think they would put some more effort into blaming the scapegoats, but I have seen kindergarten projects more put together than the prosecution team. At least put in the bare minimum before accusing someone, I roll my eyes at this drivel.
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The fact that he claims to have been there, yet can't describe the events even accurately enough to be acceptable is very suspicious. His first number was 5. 5 is just a bit less than 40% of the amount given by the defendant.
Now yes, he did quickly make it 8, which brought his estimation to be just over 60% of the amount, but as a man in his position, being 40% low in your estimation of the enemy's assult force is just unacceptable when it isn't like they received any further reinforcements or had hidden any of their units. They literally were attacking 4, well defended locations where having visibility of the enemy is made a priority.
So for 1, he has already made the doom lean more towards his incompetence based on the fact that while he was uncertain, the defendant gave a hard, exact number, 13, spoke confidently, and without stuttering or any self correcting. Does this prove guilt, not really unless some actual hard evidence is presented. But it still can sway a jurry or judge's opinion quite a bit.
Also, the amount of detail given by the 2 of them, while not necessarily required to answer the question, is vastly different. And is quite importaint. Especially about the enemy's armor and equipment, since that CAN be proven with actual hard evidence. But this is a collusion trial, so maybe that is not given quite as much value as it usually would.
At the moment, all this is is a big he said/she said. But the point that a superior is accusing a subordinate of treason, but without any significant evidence to back up the claim is the most crucial point here. If they take him for his word alone, then the legal system essentially admits to being his personal execution team, and also that only a person's rank matters in deciding whether something is true or not. In other words, it would be like saying that the court's existance is pointless to begin with.
Furthermore. The fact that the judge not only made an immediate call for their executions, literally right after the opening statement, before either side could even present any single piece of evidence or dispute their claims, should have invalidated the entire court case right then and there. The guy didn't even finish his response to the defendant's opening statment, and the judge is already making their decision? That is the literal #1 suspicious thing here. It is unquestionably more than enough proof that this is a fixed trial and either the judge is paid off, or is clearly acting under some kind of duress.
I mean really, the prosecution team didn't even say a single word, and the trial is already decided? That is not a trial to prove someone's guilt. It is an exicution order, just being called a trial for "formalities".
The fact that he claims to have been there, yet can't describe the events even accurately enough to be acceptable is very suspicious. His first number was 5. 5 is just a bit less than 40% of the amount given by the defendant.
Now yes, he did quickly make it 8, which brought his estimation to be just over 60% of the amount, but as a man in his position, being 40% low in your estimation of the enemy's assult force is just unacceptable when it isn't like they received any further reinforcements or had hidden any of their units. They literally were attacking 4, well defended locations where having visibility of the enemy is made a priority.
So for 1, he has already made the doom lean more towards his incompetence based on the fact that while he was uncertain, the defendant gave a hard, exact number, 13, spoke confidently, and without stuttering or any self correcting. Does this prove guilt, not really unless some actual hard evidence is presented. But it still can sway a jurry or judge's opinion quite a bit.
Also, the amount of detail given by the 2 of them, while not necessarily required to answer the question, is vastly different. And is quite importaint. Especially about the enemy's armor and equipment, since that CAN be proven with actual hard evidence. But this is a collusion trial, so maybe that is not given quite as much value as it usually would.
At the moment, all this is is a big he said/she said. But the point that a superior is accusing a subordinate of treason, but without any significant evidence to back up the claim is the most crucial point here. If they take him for his word alone, then the legal system essentially admits to being his personal execution team, and also that only a person's rank matters in deciding whether something is true or not. In other words, it would be like saying that the court's existance is pointless to begin with.
Furthermore. The fact that the judge not only made an immediate call for their executions, literally right after the opening statement, before either side could even present any single piece of evidence or dispute their claims, should have invalidated the entire court case right then and there. The guy didn't even finish his response to the defendant's opening statment, and the judge is already making their decision? That is the literal #1 suspicious thing here. It is unquestionably more than enough proof that this is a fixed trial and either the judge is paid off, or is clearly acting under some kind of duress.
I mean really, the prosecution team didn't even say a single word, and the trial is already decided? That is not a trial to prove someone's guilt. It is an exicution order, just being called a trial for "formalities".
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@JavelinJoe I don't have much specialistic legal knowledge, but here's my understanding.
What you say is indeed correct, but a key fact is who handles all of the evidence. It seems the only independent party there are the judges, with Luodo, now replaced by the MC, making the actual judgment, and the Commander sent there from the HQ to oversee the trial, assist the judge and perhaps overrule the final verdict, if she holds such power. The rest is entirely handled by the knights and since I see no jury there, the common people can probably at most spectate.
Since the knights most likely were also the ones to clean up after the battle, as long as the ones who did so are also in collusion, we can't expect any honest evidence from them and it shouldn't be hard for some of the bodies to disappear so the final number comes out as 8 squads or for the trolls to be stripped of armor. Also it may be that that all of the bodies are already gotten rid of, so there's no evidence in favor or against either of the statements. In the end, it doesn't even matter, since miscalculation is not a crime and actually the defendant knowing the enemies to well may be used to support the accusation of him working with the trolls.
If this was a real life trial then very likely all of the errors in proceedings and that guy being uncertain would lead both the judge and the jury to think something is wrong with the trial, but from the official standpoint it really came down to he said/she said, which you noticed. It looks like the trial is open to the public, so the knights can't go too overboard in how they handle it, but unless someone of high standing calls them out on the lack of evidence, like the MC did here, they would have been able to judge them guilty immediately and no common person would notice anything is wrong.
So with the absence of any evidence, unless the knights decided to fabricate some like I suggested, the only reasonable call from the judge is to judge them not-guilty, but the commander guy would also face no consequences, since there's no evidence against him either.
What you say is indeed correct, but a key fact is who handles all of the evidence. It seems the only independent party there are the judges, with Luodo, now replaced by the MC, making the actual judgment, and the Commander sent there from the HQ to oversee the trial, assist the judge and perhaps overrule the final verdict, if she holds such power. The rest is entirely handled by the knights and since I see no jury there, the common people can probably at most spectate.
Since the knights most likely were also the ones to clean up after the battle, as long as the ones who did so are also in collusion, we can't expect any honest evidence from them and it shouldn't be hard for some of the bodies to disappear so the final number comes out as 8 squads or for the trolls to be stripped of armor. Also it may be that that all of the bodies are already gotten rid of, so there's no evidence in favor or against either of the statements. In the end, it doesn't even matter, since miscalculation is not a crime and actually the defendant knowing the enemies to well may be used to support the accusation of him working with the trolls.
If this was a real life trial then very likely all of the errors in proceedings and that guy being uncertain would lead both the judge and the jury to think something is wrong with the trial, but from the official standpoint it really came down to he said/she said, which you noticed. It looks like the trial is open to the public, so the knights can't go too overboard in how they handle it, but unless someone of high standing calls them out on the lack of evidence, like the MC did here, they would have been able to judge them guilty immediately and no common person would notice anything is wrong.
So with the absence of any evidence, unless the knights decided to fabricate some like I suggested, the only reasonable call from the judge is to judge them not-guilty, but the commander guy would also face no consequences, since there's no evidence against him either.
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If the mc stopped with this 'tragic hero who should be considered an enemy' schtick, he could have been a great character.
@Firemorfox red sus as FUCK I saw him twerking in medbay
A scene that isn't clearly shown in the manhua is that when the prosecutor is asked about the enemy numbers, he was also asked about the casualty rate and how many knights were needed to fend them off, which is more reliable evidence that he was lying than just squad numbers
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Guy forgot the BIG DOG WAS HERE! And they did not like the Bullshit!
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Soviet trials were handled better than this shit. Though I'm not surprised that the Chinese aren't familiar with any somewhat reasonable justice systems, so I suppose this is realistic.
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