The Idaten Deities Know Only Peace - Vol. 7 Ch. 50 - Reunion

[MangaDex]

 

[slugslum]

Chapter ending a bit messy, sorry about that. Hard to make sense of the context or puns of Miku's Dick rant so I just wrote it as is 🤷🏿‍♂️

 

[rrrrrr333333]

I need to reread this manga. I'm so lost and the characters are just vaguely familiar.

 

[Kushikime]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[KajurN]

Loving this sub arc and how many hoops they're having to go through just to communicate. And seeing the story from the PoV of the demons is surprisingly effective at making us sympathize with them a little, with them being heavy underdogs now.

 

[vangoz]

I already forgot where the original webcomic stopped. Hopefully the manga can go past that.
...But it looks like manga is completed already, so probably not.

 

[Minulaka]

I already forgot where the original webcomic stopped. Hopefully the manga can go past that.
...But it looks like manga is completed already, so probably not.

If what i read online is right. It does go past the webcomic, but like, it resolves everything past that in one volume. Which is why redditors think a second season of the anime is unlikely.

 

[Bobbyyyyy]

We love you translator

 

[Marrro90123]

Goated slug solo

 

[slugslum]

The manga has wrapped up actually, let's see if we can meet up before March/April

 

[Kurovah]

I still feel sorry for that poor girl they murdered to live in that place

 

[popinloopy]

Thank you for the chapter! I really like Miku as a character.
The cypher makes a little bit of sense to me, but only on a basic level since I don't know Japanese. It's a simple Caesar shift cypher like they say. So if I said "INHPGZYY" and 5, you just go 5 letters before or after each letter to see what it says. 5 letters before i in the alphabet is D, 5 before n is i, 5 before H is C, and 5 before P is K. Do that for each of the letters and you can decipher the word "DICKBUTT". But that's all already explained on page 16, so that's probably not what you were confused by.

But just do that to the Japanese alphabet instead. Again, I don't really know Japanese so I can't exactly help with info here. I remember from the little I was taught that the order starts like A I U E O, then I think Ka or Kya or something next? I think I was learning specifically hiragana at the time, so I don't know if that also applies to katakana and kanji and whatnot, or if there even really IS an order to the Japanese alphabet.

The only part I'm having trouble figuring out is how the hell their key works and how a certain key phrase can be used to decode something like that. I'm just gonna chalk it up to "I'm taking it too literally. It's not exactly a Caesar cipher, it's just similar to one. It's different in that it somehow has a pass phrase and the demons are just doing their own thing so don't bother trying to figure out how it works. It's fantasy. Fiction. It doesn't need an actual explanation and doesn't have to actually work. Plus, I'm no cryptographer, I don't know jack shit about this stuff anyway. Stop thinking and just go with it. If they say it works, that's good enough. It's just a story."

 

[slugslum]

Y

Thank you for the chapter! I really like Miku as a character.
The cypher makes a little bit of sense to me, but only on a basic level since I don't know Japanese. It's a simple Caesar shift cypher like they say. So if I said "INHPGZYY" and 5, you just go 5 letters before or after each letter to see what it says. 5 letters before i in the alphabet is D, 5 before n is i, 5 before H is C, and 5 before P is K. Do that for each of the letters and you can decipher the word "DICKBUTT". But that's all already explained on page 16, so that's probably not what you were confused by.

But just do that to the Japanese alphabet instead. Again, I don't really know Japanese so I can't exactly help with info here. I remember from the little I was taught that the order starts like A I U E O, then I think Ka or Kya or something next? I think I was learning specifically hiragana at the time, so I don't know if that also applies to katakana and kanji and whatnot, or if there even really IS an order to the Japanese alphabet.

The only part I'm having trouble figuring out is how the hell their key works and how a certain key phrase can be used to decode something like that. I'm just gonna chalk it up to "I'm taking it too literally. It's not exactly a Caesar cipher, it's just similar to one. It's different in that it somehow has a pass phrase and the demons are just doing their own thing so don't bother trying to figure out how it works. It's fantasy. Fiction. It doesn't need an actual explanation and doesn't have to actually work. Plus, I'm no cryptographer, I don't know jack shit about this stuff anyway. Stop thinking and just go with it. If they say it works, that's good enough. It's just a story."

YOHHHHHHHHH, I didnt think of that, thanks I'll look into it. Thanks a lot

 

[Kurro]

I can't put my finger on it......but I really hated this serie. It just feels.....unsettling. Every time I've read it get a feeling of doom and I don't like it. Also doesn't help is shonen schlock. 😬

 

[TanyaTheEvil]

My favorite character is the girl that smokes, thanks for the translation

 

[Zelsk]

Y

YOHHHHHHHHH, I didnt think of that, thanks I'll look into it. Thanks a lot

The Caesar Cipher is the simplest form of a category of ciphers called substitution ciphers (take one character replace it with another). There is a cipher called one-time pad that is unbreakable under certain circumstances and I think it is more similar to what the writer here meant, although to someone that doesn't know proper cryptography jargon and diction, yeah its just a Caesar Cipher with a more complex encryption algorithm than "move 3 letters down".


About the circumstances that makes a one-time pad unbreakable, here they are. Password here being the game password.
1. Only the sender and receiver know the password. Obvious.
2. The password must never be reused. So far this is the first time they used it.
3. The password must be the same length as the message. I do not know japanese so cannot confirm the length there, but the message they send is 20 characters long. Video game passwords can definitely fall into that range. Some simple Megaman ones are 10 characters and full save-file ones like Golden Sun go up to 260.
4. The key must be truly random.


The only one not followed is the key being random. This means that, in theory, the Idaten can just try every single video game password to ever exist on the message until the message turns into something that sounds like a real message. Clearly that is infeasible and due to the large search domain, might result in false positives aka message that make logical sense but are just not what Miku actually sent.

 

[Zelsk]

Thank you for the chapter! I really like Miku as a character.
The cypher makes a little bit of sense to me, but only on a basic level since I don't know Japanese. It's a simple Caesar shift cypher like they say. So if I said "INHPGZYY" and 5, you just go 5 letters before or after each letter to see what it says. 5 letters before i in the alphabet is D, 5 before n is i, 5 before H is C, and 5 before P is K. Do that for each of the letters and you can decipher the word "DICKBUTT". But that's all already explained on page 16, so that's probably not what you were confused by.

But just do that to the Japanese alphabet instead. Again, I don't really know Japanese so I can't exactly help with info here. I remember from the little I was taught that the order starts like A I U E O, then I think Ka or Kya or something next? I think I was learning specifically hiragana at the time, so I don't know if that also applies to katakana and kanji and whatnot, or if there even really IS an order to the Japanese alphabet.

The only part I'm having trouble figuring out is how the hell their key works and how a certain key phrase can be used to decode something like that. I'm just gonna chalk it up to "I'm taking it too literally. It's not exactly a Caesar cipher, it's just similar to one. It's different in that it somehow has a pass phrase and the demons are just doing their own thing so don't bother trying to figure out how it works. It's fantasy. Fiction. It doesn't need an actual explanation and doesn't have to actually work. Plus, I'm no cryptographer, I don't know jack shit about this stuff anyway. Stop thinking and just go with it. If they say it works, that's good enough. It's just a story."

Works like this.
Encryption algorithm: Convert the letter to a number (A=0; B=1, etc). Move that many letters down the alphabet. (btw this is the Vigenère cipher)

Message: UUHIYTLC
Key: INHPGZYY
Plaintext: MHATSUNE

Message: UUHIYTLC
Key: CNTPYRXP
Plaintext: A completely different word


With the same sent message, any number of different plaintexts can be made all based on what the key is. Just replace the encryption algorithm with something unbreakable like one-time pad in real life or Zoble-3B in universe and thats how Miku dunked on the Idaten.