The Infinite Mage - Vol. 1 Ch. 63

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"I'm no longer breaking the rules" he says, while breaking the rules of physics :huh:
I guess what he did was become something akin of a higgs boson, granting mass to massless things. We know it's possible to create energy from mass, so here what he did was create mass from energy

Still weird though
 
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Well actually, I just researched, and while not having a true mass, a high energy photon can act like having mass, "If by mass you mean the inertial mass (the m in the momentum-velocity relation p=mv) a photon can gain some by falling in a gravitational field"

So while not possible for a photon to have mass, the author probably got this information to do this beam attack
 
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Well actually, I just researched, and while not having a true mass, a high energy photon can act like having mass, "If by mass you mean the inertial mass (the m in the momentum-velocity relation p=mv) a photon can gain some by falling in a gravitational field"

So while not possible for a photon to have mass, the author probably got this information to do this beam attack
I can't remember the exact details exactly but as I sort of remember it it's that while a photon doesn't technically have any measurable mass, a consentrated "beam" of photons can exert force (just like an object of mass) upon mass, which would indicate (like the dual slit experiment shows photons behaving both like a wave and a mass, but afaik it's not scientifically proven) that photons might have mass but in such a miniscule number that it's practically as close to zero you can get without actually reaching zero.
 
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I can't remember the exact details exactly but as I sort of remember it it's that while a photon doesn't technically have any measurable mass, a consentrated "beam" of photons can exert force (just like an object of mass) upon mass, which would indicate (like the dual slit experiment shows photons behaving both like a wave and a mass, but afaik it's not scientifically proven) that photons might have mass but in such a miniscule number that it's practically as close to zero you can get without actually reaching zero.
Yeah, and I learned it's used in rocket fabrication to open a very thin plastic like material, that any other type of force would tear a hole
 
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I can't remember the exact details exactly but as I sort of remember it it's that while a photon doesn't technically have any measurable mass, a consentrated "beam" of photons can exert force (just like an object of mass) upon mass, which would indicate (like the dual slit experiment shows photons behaving both like a wave and a mass, but afaik it's not scientifically proven) that photons might have mass but in such a miniscule number that it's practically as close to zero you can get without actually reaching zero.
Sometimes people talk about the relativistic mass, which is confusing since it really isn't mass
Anyway, photos have momentum, the ability to exert force by slamming into objects.
Don't try to hard to merge real world physics with what's going on here, this series is fantasy and the rules of physics bend to the whims of the author.
 
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The definition of mass changes subtly when considering relativity. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that it expands. The classical way of thinking about it is that mass is the quantity of matter in an object. It determines inertia. Relativity says that mass (inertia) is more akin to the magnitude of the curvature of spacetime attributed to an object. Energy also curves and is subject to the curvature of spacetime. This is why gravity can cause a lensing effect on light travelling from distant galaxies. When viewed from this perspective, photons are a kind of pseudo mass. That'd besides the point, because I'm pretty sure that Shirone just gained the ability to manipulate the Higgs field.
 
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I’m wondering will he ever do other magic or is he just a light mage (Photon mage to be specific) because we saw him subconsciously use Wind Magic earlier in the series but since he has only used Photon magic
 
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I can't remember the exact details exactly but as I sort of remember it it's that while a photon doesn't technically have any measurable mass, a consentrated "beam" of photons can exert force (just like an object of mass) upon mass, which would indicate (like the dual slit experiment shows photons behaving both like a wave and a mass, but afaik it's not scientifically proven) that photons might have mass but in such a miniscule number that it's practically as close to zero you can get without actually reaching zero.

maybe it requires some extra factor for it to interact with the Higgs boson field and gain mass.

Wait are we about to hold an actual advanced science conference here?
 
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"I'm no longer breaking the rules" he says, while breaking the rules of physics :huh:
Technically he's making new ones.


Well actually, I just researched, and while not having a true mass, a high energy photon can act like having mass, "If by mass you mean the inertial mass (the m in the momentum-velocity relation p=mv) a photon can gain some by falling in a gravitational field"

So while not possible for a photon to have mass, the author probably got this information to do this beam attack
Au contraire, dear Watson, photons do have mass. While in motion. And that is true for all photons. (You can gravity lense microwaves and radio waves as well). They just don't have any while standing still. If they had they couldn't move at the speed of light (through space*). As the mass, no matter how small, would become infinite.

*=Everything moves with the speed of light. It's just divided by the speed through space and the speed through time. See: Speed through space+speed through time=speed of light (in a vacuum).
And the speed of light doesn't change. You should be able to see where that's going.


Why give photons extra mass, if you can use it as laser? No breaking off physics needed.
I can't remember the exact details exactly but as I sort of remember it it's that while a photon doesn't technically have any measurable mass, a consentrated "beam" of photons can exert force (just like an object of mass) upon mass, which would indicate (like the dual slit experiment shows photons behaving both like a wave and a mass, but afaik it's not scientifically proven) that photons might have mass but in such a miniscule number that it's practically as close to zero you can get without actually reaching zero.
They don't have rest mass. Anything above 0 mass would result in infinite mass at the speed of light.


Yeah, and I learned it's used in rocket fabrication to open a very thin plastic like material, that any other type of force would tear a hole
That's called a laser, duh.
 

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