It was the father's fault, he did the debt, he tryed to kill Noel, he went to the unhinged boss spouting bs, all of the blood is on the idiot's handShe wouldn't have to rest in peace if you didn't cause her death....
What did he think would happen when he took all the money of the chief who owed the mafia, and leave her weak and defenseless?
He made her pay for the sins of her father knowingly... his hands are just as dirty, so unless he also suffers how would she rest in peace?
Giving her all that hope only to ensure her painful death.
Bruh.... MC knew exactly how that would go...It was the father's fault, he did the debt, he tryed to kill Noel, he went to the unhinged boss spouting bs, all of the blood is on the idiot's hand
Yes but antihero's aren't villains. They just lack the qualities traditional hero's have but it doesn't inherently make them a bad person. He's not trying to be good, he's trying to be logical, whilst maintaining a sense of morality. He chooses his life and end ambitions over morality as it's of no end use to him to act on his morality instead. If he was strong enough to back it up then he would obviously only be kind and a "hero" just like his grandfather. His grandfather clearly didn't teach him to be kind, like look at Noel.I don't mind a heroic MC and I don't mind a douchy antihero MC either, but an antihero that tries to pretend to be a good guy sometimes is just an annoying hypocrite. He should stick to being one or the other.
He may not be a villain, like "muhaha, I'm going to take over the world!", but he is definitely a bad person. And generally speaking, villains are precisely the kinds of people who always choose their own ambitions over compassion and kindness. He was definitely strong enough not to knowingly leave that innocent little girl who loved and admired him to be brutally murdered.Yes but antihero's aren't villains. They just lack the qualities traditional hero's have but it doesn't inherently make them a bad person. He's not trying to be good, he's trying to be logical, whilst maintaining a sense of morality. He chooses his life and end ambitions over morality as it's of no end use to him to act on his morality instead. If he was strong enough to back it up then he would obviously only be kind and a "hero" just like his grandfather. His grandfather clearly didn't teach him to be kind, like look at Noel.
So that's it the conclusion of the child just like that? Died meaninglessly and somehow died in peace while brutally murdered? Well I guess she is not important enough for the story and author just decide to dump it right there welp can't say anything to it unless one or two comment about the mc, despite being smart or throughout he couldn't foreseen the outcome? Yeah right...
and do what? kidnap the kid from her parents? leave without taking the money? if he left without the money, the scum would still have tried to pin Noel somehow. He wanted all the goods from the bandits camp, wanted to kill the adventurers to take their money and gear. that 800k probably wasn't enough to cover the next payment loan anyway. The kid was doomed the moment her father decided to fuck around with Mafia. don't sugar coat it.Bruh.... MC knew exactly how that would go...
the dad acted out of desparation, and the MC didn't care and just caused more problems.
Drop the MC-can-do-no-wrong crap... he actively caused her death by making things worse instead of just leaving. And then didn't even bother to ensure the one innocent would be safe... and instead ensured her demise.
His hands are just as bloody as those that actually killed her.
He played a critical role in the cause for that effect, had he not, than she would have lived.
Also.. you ignore another major fact... MC could have killed the dude running things easily... but it was dragged out giving time for that shit to happen...
The moment he left taking all the money, is the moment he decided to let her die, He KNEW she would, and did nothing. And then pretends to care now... yeah nah, bullshit.
Bruh... how little thought did you put into this before writing it?and do what? kidnap the kid from her parents? leave without taking the money? if he left without the money, the scum would still have tried to pin Noel somehow. He wanted all the goods from the bandits camp, wanted to kill the adventurers to take their money and gear. that 800k probably wasn't enough to cover the next payment loan anyway. The kid was doomed the moment her father decided to fuck around with Mafia. don't sugar coat it.
1."just kill them". The guy who becomes the new Boss is A rank. he alone would wipe the floor with MC and tanned girl. How exactly is he supposed to kill them? This manga ain't about a Superman MC. It's a Batman MC. need prep-time and money.Bruh... how little thought did you put into this before writing it?
1. Kill them. (the bad guys).
2. Just take HIS money, instead of stealing ALL the money. (which caused this problem).
3. Actually stick around to help the innocent girl.
4. STILL KILL THE FUCKERS THAT KILLED HER!
Like bro, they're just let off... for nothing...
If that tickles your brain, then it must be smooth.
Cope harder man.1."just kill them". The guy who becomes the new Boss is A rank. he alone would wipe the floor with MC and tanned girl. How exactly is he supposed to kill them? This manga ain't about a Superman MC. It's a Batman MC. need prep-time and money.
2. what's the difference between HIS and ALL the money to you? HIS as in the agreed sum to deal with the bandits? he agreed to take care of 20 bandits. how many were again? 30? 40? on top of trying to poison him? the agreed sum wasn't fair to begin with.
3. stick around? granted, later in the story, we get a reason for the speed of why they NEED to grow faster, and why MC wouldn't sit around kicking dust for something to happen, but it's not their job. Adventurers. again, stay to defend 1 kid and what? kill 2-3 yakuzas then A rank underboss shows up and kills them?
4. the guy who looked like he did it(the one holding the toy) looked pretty disgusted with himself. that's a sin he'll have to live with and will haunt him to his grave. WHICH probably ain't that far off with a new Disaster showing up within 1 year time. And the former boss will have to fuck pigs or get eaten by them. good riddance. It's always annoying how villains get easy/quick deaths.
His whole Character is about being a piece of shit. I never meant it as defending the MC. it's just your way of looking at it. MC did what was in his power, to fulfill his desire.Cope harder man.
Accountability and Responsibility are a thing that exist. Stop thinking so smooth-brain-like to ignore them.
Also.. he killed that dude anyway, your whole argument falls apart.
And he finds the killer.. and does nothing, because dudes "remorseful"... O no a child killer is remorseful, my heart doesn't break.
You can keep defending MC for helping child killers, but Imma call him a piece of shit for it like he is.
Smooth brain take. You ignore so much of the story to make that argument stick XDHis whole Character is about being a piece of shit. I never meant it as defending the MC. it's just your way of looking at it. MC did what was in his power, to fulfill his desire.
Thing is, you grabbed on the "oh the children" thing. But, this is JUST an isolated case that is shown to us. How many more have been in the same situation, but are ignored. MC even threatened people that he will kill their wifes and children for getting in his way. But again, you cling to this one. What? was that girl your waifu and are upset the author killed her off, off screen? Probably should be thankful she wasn't gang raped before being killed and the one who did it, didn't laugh maniacally when remembering it. This ain't a shounen manga. It even has the "tragedy" tag on it. You MAY want to keep away from these and save yourself.
And you keep calling me smooth-brain or whatever. Even in today's world, WE, have a lot of children that are exploited and nobody does shit. Since we like our phones, our batteries, our computer chips, Chocolate. Plenty of kids are enslaved and die because of it. And you don't do anything about it. I, certainly, don't do anything. Those that Could do something, don't. Again, if you don't like this kind of thing, just steer away. Don't complain about being unethical or more like, heartless about fiction, when our elites in the real world, certainly don't give two cents about fellow humans. And put profits first. Just like MC~
Because guess what, that's the mindset that gets one to the TOP. And Author is showing just that.
you are attached to a SINGLE line that he said just to make Himself feel better. you are have no idea how people who don't want to do certain things, but HAVE to, for a certain goal, go through to push themselves into doing it. But i'm coping. get outta here and go touch some grass so see how the world worksSmooth brain take. You ignore so much of the story to make that argument stick XD
Author shows MC as "Remorseful" and "I avenged you" despite him taking part in causing it, and literally letting the dude who killed her walk free, because he felt bad about murdering a child...
Cope harder.