The New Gate - Ch. 107

[MangaDex]

 

[ThatNaiGuy]

Interesting. So, the memories of the players specifically was beginning to be completely wiped before he returned?

 

[Julwid55]

So shins "servants" remember everything basically since he came back, I'm assuming that the others servants (six devas) forgot over time because their masters are either dead or no longer in the world currently? Maybe they'll remember if their masters come back ?

 

[Loliphilosophy]

Always appreciate the cool old guy trope.

 

[Litreara]

Yeah, listen to the old man—go ahead, marry Schnee, and have some half-High Elf babies.

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[danifa]

Interesting. So, the memories of the players specifically was beginning to be completely wiped before he returned?

He said not the memories that they lost. But the vow of loyalties to their master that slowly dissapear.

 

[kazundetec]

Interesting. So, the memories of the players specifically was beginning to be completely wiped before he returned?

i think its not meant to be wiped instantly but slowly fading away due to time, like how people usually forget something they dont see often and how the affinity dropped when time go

 

[celedruin]

So shins "servants" remember everything basically since he came back, I'm assuming that the others servants (six devas) forgot over time because their masters are either dead or no longer in the world currently? Maybe they'll remember if their masters come back ?

He said the support characters of the other 6 Devas were also unchanged.

 

[tekkenshu7]

It looks like the system wanted the NPCs to really live as their own self.
And the servants created by the players are like 'learning points' or 'data catchers' for the system to learn how it is to be 'human'.
It probably forced the no-logout event so it can bring out other emotions and human dynamics, like despair, frustration, sadness of losing someone which it can't observe under normal gaming situations and it for those who died during the event, it gave them the consolation prize of being reincarnated hundreds of years later. The system used the data to slowly build the personalities of the player-made NPCs (i.e. their closest servants) and when the players finally got to log out, they started to progress to living as normal living beings and forge their own way of life, unbound by their servitude to players but remains loyal to them since this is part of their original 'scripting'.
Shin returning back after hundreds of years, probably re-triggered that part of his servants' code but this time they act with their own developed personalities and come gravitating back to him.
On another note, I have a feeling Schnee knows that the certain black-haired elf she took under her wing is someone who was precious to Shin (and I am guessing she might have taken some of her personality patterned from her).

 

[KDChronos]

For what i understand the "six devas"'s servants never lose their loyalty, and i think it was because Shin in fact never left, he didn't log out, he was just missing those years, and just until he appeared again his servants started to take action again.

 

[Drifter]

This is the most interesting part of the story for me. I'm glad to see a bit more attention given to the masterless vassals.

 

[Knighto]

Yeah, listen to the old man—go ahead, marry Schnee, and have some half-High Elf babies.

Thanks for the chapter!

yep yep, come on Shin-dono just friggin go for Schnee!!

 

[KaisarX]

So shins "servants" remember everything basically since he came back, I'm assuming that the others servants (six devas) forgot over time because their masters are either dead or no longer in the world currently? Maybe they'll remember if their masters come back ?

opposite, shins servant never forgot their "feeling" about him in the first place which is why the old man think that maybe the reason why shin come back was due to the fact they never forget him.

 

[The_Road_Show]

Thank you for more regular updates

 

[DrunkinDonut]

@Julwid55 @ThatNaiGuy
Page 20, The memories of all the support NPCs remained after the Dusk of the Majesty. What changed was that they slowly lost the game enforced mentality as always loyal servants. Imagine people who slowly fall out of love. So, imagine if God/The System enforced affection and loyalty to their Masters. Once you no longer have the impulse forced upon you, you slowly forget. Without reinforcement, the feelings are no longer as strong. And lessen until they're no longer there, but you can still remember the fact of those feelings.

Though, I have issues with Kankurou's theory as well. It relies heavily on an assumption that he can't actually be sure of. His theory is that the servants of the High Humans are also affected by this relaxation of the system, but unlike the other vassal servants, their feelings never abated. And that Shin's return is related to that. This sort of hypothesis requires that Shin actually /left/ and that the System stopped enforcing that sort of emotional imprisonment upon his vassals. But, based on what is shown so far, do we know that to be true? The High Humans were a Special Race on their own. Who knows what effects they actually had. We know the Reincarnation/Inheritance system is still working, though no longer with predictable results, hence the randomness of The Chosen Ones. And Shin's "exit" was different from every other player. Did the System actually stop? Or was it still active, keeping every one of his vassal's "loyal" during his time skip. If this is the case, I would be extremely wary of reciprocating Schnee's feelings, if it's just a system fluke.

Was it a love of Shin, that kept Girard from dying for hundreds of years(Lived for 500+ years, and the average lifespan for his race is 150)? Or is this merely a side effect of Shin not actually being "gone". And thus his vassals would, absent an actual murder, would survive, enforced by The System. Or is his storm of loyalty truly that strong?

Lelouch Lamperouge vi Britannia commands you, Love him, and despair!

 

[Enalis]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[chendu]

Tanks for the food

 

[Bibliothecarius]

Thnks for the chapter!

 

[HDMI1]

Interesting. So, the memories of the players specifically was beginning to be completely wiped before he returned?

The memories of those player were only disappearing if that player managed to log out after Shin beat the final boss of the death game.

So shins "servants" remember everything basically since he came back, I'm assuming that the others servants (six devas) forgot over time because their masters are either dead or no longer in the world currently? Maybe they'll remember if their masters come back ?

It's the opposite, the old man is indicating that the Six Deva's servants are still loyal because they can still sense them in the world, just like how Schnee and the others stayed loyal because they could subconsciously sense him. Hell, Girald was "local man too loyal to die" until he met up with Shin again.

 

[kaorihikari]

I love the manga ver of new gate rather than anime