Tonari no Kyuuketsuki-san - Vol. 6 Ch. 53 - I Want to Become a Vampire!

[SteamedBunInvasion]

@charasuu oh shit. missed opportunity.

 

[Lilliwyt]

@1412

But it would be nice if you put translation note for that.
So what elly really say in Japanese in that Jojo reference panel? I really curious

You ask the wrong person. I don't think that person will ever put explanation because it's for the lulz for him.

 

[mage_goo]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's pretty good this time around, unlike ch. 58
The snipe is too far that it's weird to even call it a snipe. It's like the spoiler summary from ln/wn people usually post.
And it's really don't matter for SoL like this.

I can kinda get being mad for ch. 58, but this one pretty okay in my book.
Did you guys also get mad for group doing "re-uploads" (read:re-done using better scan and/or raws) or something 'cause it crowds your list?
It's all just so juvenile.

 

[Lilliwyt]

@mage_goo

Did you guys also get mad for group doing "re-uploads" (read:re-done using better scan and/or raws) or something 'cause it crowds your list?

There is a whole difference between redoing an existant chapter and doing chapter that far ahead. I'm ok with the first because i already read the other one and i can judge which one is better. I'm not ok with the second one especially given the translator do that purelyfor annoying people.

It's like the spoiler summary from ln/wn people usually post.

Like you said it's spoiler, if i don't want to read the spoiler you can just not click on it but here it's a different matter, imagine someone is not paying attention and click onnext chapter on Ch.20 and end up reading 30 chapter ahead of where he is. Luckily wehad warning for that but still, it's a dick move.$

And it's really don't matter for SoL like this.

Don't act like SoL don't have continuity. Even SoL have timeline even it's not noticable and they can have some news characters coming or having some big events happening to MC. It matter and i found stupid to use that excuse.

The snipe is too far that it's weird to even call it a snipe.

You know he had upload end of mangas where a team was still working on it way before the team reach the end just because he feel like it . A snipe is still a snipe if the team is still working on it regulary. You can't say it's not a snipe just because it's way ahead.

 

[Yautja]

@Zephyrus
Just pinging you again to keep you updated, in case you missed it. Notice how this upload comes only after his comment ban has expired.

If there isn't a ruling on this yet, or if there is and there's no punishment, this seems like a pretty good test case for introducing a new and more explicit rule or to at least open a conversation on a new rule to ban this sort of thing. Start a poll or what not on the forums, ask opinions, etc. I'd recommend focusing on the obviously liberal "fuckwit" translations that border on trolling, the obviously trolling comments, and the intentionally skipped and sporadic chapters.

 

[mage_goo]

@Lilliwyt

I'm not ok with the second one especially given the translator do that purelyfor annoying people.

well, there's also apparently someone that's not ok with the first, just saying.
and getting mad just because of the motive is just, what's the word, juvenile? 1st world problems?

Like you said it's spoiler, if i don't want to read the spoiler you can just not click on it but here it's a different matter, imagine someone is not paying attention and click onnext chapter on Ch.20 and end up reading 30 chapter ahead of where he is. Luckily wehad warning for that but still, it's a dick move

chapters number exist as the equivalent of spoiler tags tho. it's like mad at people for posting spoilers at all regardless of whether it's inside the tag or not.
and you can also say the same thing about not paying attention to spoilers tag, since people also use it to post big pic.

Don't act like SoL don't have continuity. Even SoL have timeline even it's not noticable and they can have some news characters coming or having some big events happening to MC. It matter and i found stupid to use that excuse.

why yes maybe, but those thing don't really matters to me.
maybe you wanna bring more objective reason instead?

You know he had upload end of mangas where a team was still working on it way before the team reach the end just because he feel like it .

and just like how some people begs some spoiler, there's a demand for last chapter spoiler. and i don't really get why you bring up his motive, it's a free market, only the products matters.

A snipe is still a snipe if the team is still working on it regulary. You can't say it's not a snipe just because it's way ahead

idk man, a snipe used to be called a snipe because they timed it perfectly right before the victim released their version, thus pretty much wasting the work they already done (partially)
if it's way too far like this, there's no work wasted since the group hasn't even working on it yet.
it might even helps them since they can skip those "sniped" chapter
heck, i vaguely remember there's even one manga where the group kinda collab with the "sniper" and alternates between chapters

 

[Stadenwick]

holy shit people its a free comic book calm the fuck down

 

[Zephyrus]

@Yautja
We did come up with a solution that doesn't involve policing scanlation.

Now, even if the title is in a user's follows list, they are warned that there is a gap like so:

This will take a lot of the sting out of releases that are posted far ahead of what the average reader expects to see in their follows updates.

To quote from the most recent announcement thread:

The reader has had a feature to warn the user when there is a content gap between the chapter they've selected and the previous chapter. Previously, this warning did not trigger if the chapter was opened directly, but the reader has now been updated to do so. This means that if a group happens to upload a chapter much further than the previous scanlation group, it will help avoid accidentally spoiling the chapter for the user who may not remember where they are in the series. Note that this requires the reader settings option called "Warn about chapter gaps" to be enabled, so you might want to check if it is, though it should be on by default.

 

[Lilliwyt]

it might even helps them since they can skip those "sniped" chapter
heck, i vaguely remember there's even one manga where the group kinda collab with the "sniper" and alternates between chapters

Lol no, i don't think PPP will ever work this kind of person and there is a reason why a group don't collab with sniper, it's because Sniping is rarely something you can overlook like that.

and just like how some people begs some spoiler, there's a demand for last chapter spoiler. and i don't really get why you bring up his motive, it's a free market, only the products matters.

Such a bad mentality, a team is working on manga and quite regulary just be patient. If people don't have tha patient to wait that the team goes to the end then i feel bad for them. And no, it's not because it's free that everybody can do his shit because they want to.

I think there more people who want to read in logical order rather than having random chapter upload.

holy shit people its a free comic book calm the fuck down

Hitting someone in the street is also free. Because it's free to make doesn't mean it's a good thing. You don't have problems with getting spoil, good for you but i think you can understand that people don't like that.

 

[eviljackspicer]

I T W A S M E D I O ! ! ! !

 

[KZO]

Ignoring all the drama, what's up with that story Sophie just told? And why she didn't say it since the first time Akari wanted to be a vampire? That seems excessively tragic and morbid for a lighthearted manga like this one, I'm not sure if it's even true or if it was planned since the start because remember chapter 6 in which someone turned her whole family into vampires, assuming the chances of someone turning or just plainly dying is 50/50, that means she had a 12.5% chance to turn her whole family into vampires and if any of them didn't turn, they would just die.

The only reason I believe Sophie is because Ellie didn't deny her, but if it was Sophie alone telling them I wouldn't believe her, that girl from chapter 6 just went for it, knowing all of them could die, and she still ended winning the lottery.

The method Homura eventually founds better be a 100% reliable method, this manga can't end without Akari turning into a vampire, that has been the main goal since day one and I'm sure Sophie won't let her try it if they don't have a sure method.

 

[Lilliwyt]

@KZO Mind use spoiler for talking about the chapter. Like said in another comment space, some people here have avoid reading chapter so it's not for having someone spoiling the entire chapter in the comments

and

Ignoring all the drama

Yeah no,i can't really overlook that kind of drama.

 

[SteamedBunInvasion]

@Lilliwyt
LOL that's very unreasonable. YOU are the one who should be avoiding this comment section 😄
What kind of person goes to chapter discussion thread and then complains that some people are actually... you know, discussing the chapter?

@KZO
The RNG was on their side

Spoiler

inb4 the key is love

 

[KZO]

@SteamedBunInvasion That would be an interesting solution, I'm all for it.

 

[Lilliwyt]

What kind of person goes to chapter discussion thread and then complains that some people are actually... you know, discussing the chapter?

It's the first person to actually talk about the chaper when almost everybody complain about your attitude.

LOL that's very unreasonable. YOU are the one who should be avoiding this comment section

I don't want to heard that from you of all person.

But i don't discussing with you will have any good so it's better to block you and your non stop nonsense.

 

[ecchi]

@Zephyrus

Where should that message appear? I don't see it anywhere when viewing the home page for a manga, viewing the latest consecutive chapter, or on the skipped chapter. I'm currently using the legacy, long-form reader. I don't see the option to enable the warning in the reader settings.

 

[Zephyrus]

@ecchi
Sorry, we stopped officially supporting the legacy reader a long time ago.

 

[ecchi]

@Zephyrus

Ah, ok.

 

[mage_goo]

@Lilliwyt

Lol no, i don't think PPP will ever work this kind of person and there is a reason why a group don't collab with sniper, it's because Sniping is rarely something you can overlook like that.

who says both group needs to actually doing work together?
the collab i'm talking about is basically both group sniping each other, except they both know they'd get sniped, so they tl a chapter ahead
it's faster and easier for everyone
and why'd you talk as if the tl group holds the only rights to tl manga anyway

Such a bad mentality, a team is working on manga and quite regulary just be patient. If people don't have tha patient to wait that the team goes to the end then i feel bad for them. And no, it's not because it's free that everybody can do his shit because they want to.

say that to people that begs for spoilers every single weeks
and you don't know the meaning of free market, ain't cha?

I think there more people who want to read in logical order rather than having random chapter upload.

and so what?
just because there's more people that don't wanna see "re-uploads" that means all those hq group should go kaput?
you wanna stomp all over others joy just 'cause you have more people on your side?

 

[Yautja]

@Zephyrus
Makes sense, but does that mean that there are no plans to introduce or entertain a rule discouraging this sort of thing? These sorts of uploads are basically old school Kronix posts in that they're just here to piss people off, something they're clearly very effective at doing, and even though a block feature was introduced, he has to walk a thin line. It seems kinda one sided to block troll comments, but protect troll translations simply because it's a translation and you understandably don't wanna police translations.

I get the translation distinction and how this change helps, but it doesn't really answer the issue because at the end of the day it's just to troll people and get a reaction, something that's banned comment wise; what's to stop people from just half-assing it and google translating chapters and posting them far ahead of ongoing releases to get this sort of reaction? I could see this sort of issue popping up if these kinds of things are largely ignored. If you have to implement a change to the site, surely a rule should be implemented as well.

I'd get it and have no arguments if this were like the OreGairu skipped chapters, consistent and chronological updates, but sniping the last chapter of a series far before an ongoing translation has reached that point, uploading random far ahead chapters and trying to piss people off in the comments is very clearly trolling. And if comment trolling results in bans or punishment, so should translation trolling.