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Tonari no Kyuuketsuki-san - Vol. 6 Ch. 56 - Homura's Friend
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I can't believe some people are ok with that. If you want to read that much ahead, just buy the raws but don't translate chapter way ahead and post it because someone request you too. Some people clearly lack patience. There is a team working on the translation and uploading reguraly so why do you feel the urge to ask for that ? And please use spoiler for speaking for this chapter because some people who still want to read normally has avoid to read on purpose.
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Given the continual low-effort posts consisting of puerile insults coming from the two of you, you've both earned a two-day comment ban. Use the block feature if needed, but this neither 4-chan, nor middle school. Please read the rules, especially 5.1 and try to be more civil when posting in the future.
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@SteamedBunInvasion
Given the continual low-effort posts consisting of puerile insults coming from the two of you, you've both earned a two-day comment ban. Use the block feature if needed, but this neither 4-chan, nor middle school. Please read the rules, especially 5.1 and try to be more civil when posting in the future.
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I just wish there will be a way to separate joke/fun translations from proper translations
Because being honest, SSSS has every right to upload any chapter of any manga anytime they want and reading or not is upto the people
The problem also isn't that they do shit translations or scans, in fact I'll say they do a quiet good job
I was under the impression this was a properly done chapter, until the speech bubble that had 'fag' in it. Now it won't be a problem if it was part of the story but knowing what kind of manga this is, it definitely isn't.
Now my concern is how much of it was legit and how much of it was meme'd.
Because being honest, SSSS has every right to upload any chapter of any manga anytime they want and reading or not is upto the people
The problem also isn't that they do shit translations or scans, in fact I'll say they do a quiet good job
I was under the impression this was a properly done chapter, until the speech bubble that had 'fag' in it. Now it won't be a problem if it was part of the story but knowing what kind of manga this is, it definitely isn't.
Now my concern is how much of it was legit and how much of it was meme'd.
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@SteamedBunInvasion since you seem to have some free time, may i interest you with translating the last chapter of hoshino, me o tsubutte then?
it's such a lovable shit before turned into dumpster fire so sounds like your primary prey rather than harmless shit like this
it's such a lovable shit before turned into dumpster fire so sounds like your primary prey rather than harmless shit like this
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The translation is 100% legit besides that line, it's easy to fix that line and re-upload the chapter, to avoid any more drama.
The translation is 100% legit besides that line, it's easy to fix that line and re-upload the chapter, to avoid any more drama.
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@KZO I don't think the translation is the problem here. The problem is that he translate and upload on purpose chapter way ahead of where the other team is actually and not like 1 or 2 aheadbut 40 chapters ahead and after that that upload chapter from before the one he upload. He does that on purpose for trolling peoples.
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@KZO What i mean is the translation is minor in the whole drama the biggest problem is the huge gap between PPP last chapter and those uploads and the fact that the uploader doesn't care and do it purely for fun and troll. I don't know about the translation of this chapter because i won't readit.
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There's a pending ad hoc change to the code, which change will largely sterilize the ability of malicious uploaders to gull readers to go to spoilers from the Follows page. (The change will also be helpful in the case of innocent gaps.) One of the developers seems resistant to the original suggested change, but I'm hoping that either he will change his mind or another developer will proceed.
Most of the trouble-making by @SteamedBunInvasion has not been in violation of the rules and the administrators might allow him to remain. But if he then seeks-out some new way to cause unhappiness, they will surely act more decisively.
Most of the trouble-making by @SteamedBunInvasion has not been in violation of the rules and the administrators might allow him to remain. But if he then seeks-out some new way to cause unhappiness, they will surely act more decisively.
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How do you know this so intimately? Specifically about what the admins may do. Is there a forum post or discord convo, we're missing or are you just among the staff but do not have an account that indicates such?
Anyways, I disagree. Comment wise he's obviously broken several rules, both 5.1.4 and 5.1.5, as well as 5.2 in it's entirety. The entirety of his comments have been insults of some kind, trolling, pointless slurs, etc. He's either directly and openly insulting people or trying to illicit such responses that he could react to.
He's also arguably broken 5.3 in the worst way considering this asshole is the whole reason that change needs to be made and the original skipped chapter warning was implemented. Each and every upload like this is solely to be disruptive, illicit a response and by consequence, make the staff's job harder considering as you've indicated this may result in another change to the site's functionality and the mods have to clean up this mess.
He's in some sense broken 2.3.5 considering some of the choice words used and certainly in the sense that these uploads are intentionally uploaded out of order to piss people off, as further evidenced by his comments. I and many others would certainly consider that a troll.
I think you'd have to have not read the rules or be simply stupid to postulate that "most" of what he's done has not violated any rules, especially considering he's already comment banned for comments in this very thread. The only question, in my opinion, is considering all the rules he's broken and the obviously malicious intentions he has is whether or not he should be just banned from uploading or entirely from the site. The fact that this guy has been the cause of not one, but two fucking functions / new features to mitigate the affects of trolling by fake uploads should be more than enough to permaban him at the very least from uploading and if anyone had any foresight, entirely from the site.
How do you know this so intimately? Specifically about what the admins may do. Is there a forum post or discord convo, we're missing or are you just among the staff but do not have an account that indicates such?
Anyways, I disagree. Comment wise he's obviously broken several rules, both 5.1.4 and 5.1.5, as well as 5.2 in it's entirety. The entirety of his comments have been insults of some kind, trolling, pointless slurs, etc. He's either directly and openly insulting people or trying to illicit such responses that he could react to.
He's also arguably broken 5.3 in the worst way considering this asshole is the whole reason that change needs to be made and the original skipped chapter warning was implemented. Each and every upload like this is solely to be disruptive, illicit a response and by consequence, make the staff's job harder considering as you've indicated this may result in another change to the site's functionality and the mods have to clean up this mess.
He's in some sense broken 2.3.5 considering some of the choice words used and certainly in the sense that these uploads are intentionally uploaded out of order to piss people off, as further evidenced by his comments. I and many others would certainly consider that a troll.
I think you'd have to have not read the rules or be simply stupid to postulate that "most" of what he's done has not violated any rules, especially considering he's already comment banned for comments in this very thread. The only question, in my opinion, is considering all the rules he's broken and the obviously malicious intentions he has is whether or not he should be just banned from uploading or entirely from the site. The fact that this guy has been the cause of not one, but two fucking functions / new features to mitigate the affects of trolling by fake uploads should be more than enough to permaban him at the very least from uploading and if anyone had any foresight, entirely from the site.
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I'm simply following more publicly accessible discussion than are most people here. And, while a lot of people have been doing little more than yowling in indignation (thereby delighting the perpetrator), I've been doing what I can to make an effective case in those discussions.
You're grossly confusing too distinct propositions. My claim is that most of his trouble-making has been within the rules; that claim is not contradicted by showing that much of his trouble-making has not been within the rules. One is a claim about relative share; the other is a claim about absolute size. You need to apologize for your insult to me.
Those who think that what he has done warrants a ban may be correct, but that he hasn't already been banned shows that the administrators have not been convinced that what such action is warranted. Part of the issue may be the sheer difficulty of truly banning anyone, but the comment suspension is (right now) only a two-day suspension. Expressing anger at me for this observation is absurd.
I'm simply following more publicly accessible discussion than are most people here. And, while a lot of people have been doing little more than yowling in indignation (thereby delighting the perpetrator), I've been doing what I can to make an effective case in those discussions.
You're grossly confusing too distinct propositions. My claim is that most of his trouble-making has been within the rules; that claim is not contradicted by showing that much of his trouble-making has not been within the rules. One is a claim about relative share; the other is a claim about absolute size. You need to apologize for your insult to me.
Those who think that what he has done warrants a ban may be correct, but that he hasn't already been banned shows that the administrators have not been convinced that what such action is warranted. Part of the issue may be the sheer difficulty of truly banning anyone, but the comment suspension is (right now) only a two-day suspension. Expressing anger at me for this observation is absurd.
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So conjecture. Coupled with an insult at anyone who's understandable annoyed. A superiority complex could not shine brighter. Effective case. What a laugh.
Not a chance. In fact, I'm more likely to reiterate it than anything else. Him being comment banned and the listed rules disagree. I don't see how your claim demerits the rules I've listed that's he's broken overtly and the obvious arguments I have for the ones he hasn't. Your "claim" has no merit considering the actions taken against him, the rules I've listed, the reactions of both the mods and the users and the obvious fact that you've done nothing but "say so" and have not quantified his actions. Before you start making bullshit claims about relative and absolute sizes of his actions, maybe you should quantify and categorize all of his actions. Sort of like how I described how the comments, and chapters themselves break the rules and therefore everything related to his actions when uploading such chapters is rule breaking. And before you go making bullshit claims about how other regular uploads or comments of his are part of your consideration, think about how we classify criminals IRL, day to day shit doesn't count. You think too much of yourself and what you've said if you think you deserve any sort of apology for pulling both those comments out your ass with seemingly nothing other than the comments here to go on. I'd scoff if I could, apology, grow up.
Clearly you haven't read the comments. 2 day comment ban. Their words, not mine. That, the comments, the admitted discussion between staff and the rules provide more evidence to him facing repercussions or that he should be than your string of words which boil down to "we don't not know this is the case and nothing has happened yet, so you're probably wrong" sort of sentiments. Expressing distaste at someone who's made an argument with little to no support and seemingly made claims out of nowhere is hardly absurd.
Until you tell me how I'm wrong, and substantiate it, in arguing or thinking that those rules were overtly broken or arguably broken, and provide a footing for your bullshit claim that he "has not been in violation of the rules", I'll continue thinking you're a moron. Especially considering your comment here boils down to "I think therefore this" and unnecessarily long strings of words and word soup to seemingly distract from the fact that you haven't made an argument or substantiated your claims in any manner.
So conjecture. Coupled with an insult at anyone who's understandable annoyed. A superiority complex could not shine brighter. Effective case. What a laugh.
Not a chance. In fact, I'm more likely to reiterate it than anything else. Him being comment banned and the listed rules disagree. I don't see how your claim demerits the rules I've listed that's he's broken overtly and the obvious arguments I have for the ones he hasn't. Your "claim" has no merit considering the actions taken against him, the rules I've listed, the reactions of both the mods and the users and the obvious fact that you've done nothing but "say so" and have not quantified his actions. Before you start making bullshit claims about relative and absolute sizes of his actions, maybe you should quantify and categorize all of his actions. Sort of like how I described how the comments, and chapters themselves break the rules and therefore everything related to his actions when uploading such chapters is rule breaking. And before you go making bullshit claims about how other regular uploads or comments of his are part of your consideration, think about how we classify criminals IRL, day to day shit doesn't count. You think too much of yourself and what you've said if you think you deserve any sort of apology for pulling both those comments out your ass with seemingly nothing other than the comments here to go on. I'd scoff if I could, apology, grow up.
Clearly you haven't read the comments. 2 day comment ban. Their words, not mine. That, the comments, the admitted discussion between staff and the rules provide more evidence to him facing repercussions or that he should be than your string of words which boil down to "we don't not know this is the case and nothing has happened yet, so you're probably wrong" sort of sentiments. Expressing distaste at someone who's made an argument with little to no support and seemingly made claims out of nowhere is hardly absurd.
Until you tell me how I'm wrong, and substantiate it, in arguing or thinking that those rules were overtly broken or arguably broken, and provide a footing for your bullshit claim that he "has not been in violation of the rules", I'll continue thinking you're a moron. Especially considering your comment here boils down to "I think therefore this" and unnecessarily long strings of words and word soup to seemingly distract from the fact that you haven't made an argument or substantiated your claims in any manner.
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@Yautja—
No, not mere conjecture. Closer attendance to discussion, and logical inference.
I've shown the distinction between what I actually claimed and the proposition you instead insultingly refuted, yet you won't apologize for the insult. In fact, you just add to the insults.
Behavior of that sort is why you weren't very effective, while some of us got the developers to code the aforementioned software change that is going to sterilize the perpetrator's attacks, and got an administrator to “moderate” the nastier comments. You're still throwing gasoline. I doubt that there would be anything constructive in further engagement with you.
No, not mere conjecture. Closer attendance to discussion, and logical inference.
I've shown the distinction between what I actually claimed and the proposition you instead insultingly refuted, yet you won't apologize for the insult. In fact, you just add to the insults.
Behavior of that sort is why you weren't very effective, while some of us got the developers to code the aforementioned software change that is going to sterilize the perpetrator's attacks, and got an administrator to “moderate” the nastier comments. You're still throwing gasoline. I doubt that there would be anything constructive in further engagement with you.
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Conjecture: Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.
Considering you've not referenced any sort of evidence, the word fits.
No actually, you haven't. You've made the claim, asserted that you've proved it, and haven't actually done that, you haven't proven it in any way. You haven't shown how my classifications are wrong, you haven't quantified which actions you're referring to and how or which of the majority of those actions fall outside that rule breaking, you haven't done anything but go "because I say so" and you just did it again. Yea, just like I said I would if you didn't substantiate your claims, which you haven't.
Effective? Who's said I'm trying to do anything. I pinged the relevant people, and then left them to it. I also asked you a question, presented my argument and substantiated it with rules, actions, comments and punishment taken, and called bullshit on yours which has none of the above. As far as you and your bullshit is concerned, I've been extremely effective.
So you've reported comments, as everyone does, and made suggestions which multiple other people have asked for, oh thank you lord for your time and effort placed upon us lowly peasants. I asked you for where this sort of thing was discussed for a reason, and as far as I can tell, I've done more than you and all I have done is pinged Zeph and laid out my argument with support. You really like blowing yourself don't you? I normally joke about psychoanalyzing people on the internet, but you very well may have a genuine superiority complex. You like to put other people down as "ineffective" and "yowling" while propping yourself up as "effective" and use big words and complex sentences to appear intelligent, "logical" and "attentive", all while not supporting a thing.
Conjecture: Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.
Considering you've not referenced any sort of evidence, the word fits.
No actually, you haven't. You've made the claim, asserted that you've proved it, and haven't actually done that, you haven't proven it in any way. You haven't shown how my classifications are wrong, you haven't quantified which actions you're referring to and how or which of the majority of those actions fall outside that rule breaking, you haven't done anything but go "because I say so" and you just did it again. Yea, just like I said I would if you didn't substantiate your claims, which you haven't.
Effective? Who's said I'm trying to do anything. I pinged the relevant people, and then left them to it. I also asked you a question, presented my argument and substantiated it with rules, actions, comments and punishment taken, and called bullshit on yours which has none of the above. As far as you and your bullshit is concerned, I've been extremely effective.
So you've reported comments, as everyone does, and made suggestions which multiple other people have asked for, oh thank you lord for your time and effort placed upon us lowly peasants. I asked you for where this sort of thing was discussed for a reason, and as far as I can tell, I've done more than you and all I have done is pinged Zeph and laid out my argument with support. You really like blowing yourself don't you? I normally joke about psychoanalyzing people on the internet, but you very well may have a genuine superiority complex. You like to put other people down as "ineffective" and "yowling" while propping yourself up as "effective" and use big words and complex sentences to appear intelligent, "logical" and "attentive", all while not supporting a thing.
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