Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi - Ch. 57.2

[Squidco42]

It's - isekai de Café wo Kaiten Shimashita

No idea if it gets better later, the first chapter put me off it entirely.

It does get better.
Personally, I didn't find the MC as rude and there isn't much Japanese food circle jerking as it is with a lot of food related manga

 

[reishiki]

Mukouda's head must be a mess most of the time with Dorachan constantly eating on it.

 

[CCO812]

Fel suffering from success

 

[carmozo]

I get that food is the main plot of this slice of fantasy life manga, but would be nice if some story like things happened once in a while too.

 

[Amariithynar]

It's - isekai de Café wo Kaiten Shimashita

No idea if it gets better later, the first chapter put me off it entirely.

Oh man you naming it made me go check the first chapter, and I instantly remembered it; the first chapter did the same to me, so badly that I didn't even mark the series as dropped or anything, I just never went back to it again.

It does get better.
Personally, I didn't find the MC as rude and there isn't much Japanese food circle jerking as it is with a lot of food related manga

I'll give it another shot in this case, but she definitely was rude with her outburst of the food being disgusting, at the dinner table, and how shitty the preparation of food was for an otherwise advanced civilization immediately gave the "My food is superior" vibe that the other girl had, even about how picky she was about the water for tea.

EDIT: Yeah, nope. Got as far as Chapter 3 before the "My food is superior" BS just got to be too much. If they find tomato pasta as good as we do, there's no fucking way they're going to make a drink that tastes like fucking grapefruit and natto and think it's tasty. Similarly, soup made with just salt and the natural flavours of the ingredients can taste really good, and the way they prepared the meat just seemed like an obvious "barbarian preparation methods, they don't properly prepare the meat (bet it isn't even drained of blood)" BS. It works in Isekai Ryouridou because they actually do delve into the socioeconomic politics that keeps the tribes in such a state, but they still have good food and cuisine concepts both among the tribes and in the city, even before he starts introducing novel (to them) preparation methods, often based around some dish of theirs that gives him inspiration (this is the key point: there it is presented as transformative, rather than native ignorance of flavours and similar).

 

[jakasetan]

Whole package of free fish, nice.

Thanks for the translation.

 

[MGJerry]

This chapter is just the experience of going to the local market where your mom's a regular

 

[Siceraria]

The problem is that freezing greatly alters the texture and flavor, reducing the freshness of the ingredients. This is why the Japanese use shoyu (soy sauce), wasabi, and rice vinegar on raw fish, as they not only add flavor to sushi and sashimi, but also act as natural antiseptics and antiparasitic agents.

They aren't really effective antiparasitic agents though. Anisakis (a parasitic worm in fish that can survive for a bit in the human intestines) can survive those.
And it doesn't really penetrate meat well enough to harm the parasites unless you apply a proper technique.
There is a reason why Japan keeps getting reported cases of food poisoning from Anisakis (more than 100 reported in 2022) due to not freezing or cooking raw fish properly which isn't a mandatory regulation in Japan which also perpetuates dangerous food myths such as this.
One that can even send anyone to the emergency room if unlucky enough such as one who got appendicitis from it.

---

TLDR: if anyone is planning to eat raw fish or meat in general, proper preparation such as freezing and knowledge of risks is important.

 

[Haezer]

This comment section suddenly become a forum to discuss about raw-eating fish. Even going as far as citing a goddamn scientific journal.

 

[bearybrown]

Watching Feru as pack mule reminds me of my wolf mount in MMO which i upgrade her.. to be a pack mule.

 

[isoycrazy]

This comment section suddenly become a forum to discuss about raw-eating fish. Even going as far as citing a goddamn scientific journal.

Would you rather they cite an uncredited "scientific " website?

 

[AnotherDuck]

EDIT: Yeah, nope. Got as far as Chapter 3 before the "My food is superior" BS just got to be too much.

I agree with that. I mean, I'm reading it for other reasons, but the food part is a bit meh at best.

If they find tomato pasta as good as we do

I think the best pasta is either home-cooked lasagne (which doesn't need much flavouring), or something with a mushroom-based sauce. Preferably chanterelle.

Similarly, soup made with just salt and the natural flavours of the ingredients can taste really good

Honestly, I find that a lot of these mangas overflavour foods, so the only flavour that's left is the spices and other additions, rather than the base products.

It works in Isekai Ryouridou because ....

They also emphasize that a lot of it is up to personal taste, and it's not like everyone always likes what he does.

This comment section suddenly become a forum to discuss about raw-eating fish. Even going as far as citing a goddamn scientific journal.

Isn't it great?

 

[Amariithynar]

They aren't really effective antiparasitic agents though. Anisakis (a parasitic worm in fish that can survive for a bit in the human intestines) can survive those.
And it doesn't really penetrate meat well enough to harm the parasites unless you apply a proper technique.
There is a reason why Japan keeps getting reported cases of food poisoning from Anisakis (more than 100 reported in 2022) due to not freezing or cooking raw fish properly which isn't a mandatory regulation in Japan which also perpetuates dangerous food myths such as this.
One that can even send anyone to the emergency room if unlucky enough such as one who got appendicitis from it.

---

TLDR: if anyone is planning to eat raw fish or meat in general, proper preparation such as freezing and knowledge of risks is important.

Considering the sheer volume of raw fish consumed I figured you were low-balling those numbers, and a quick analysis shows that I am correct in thinking so; the average is actually closer to 20,000 (specifically, 19,737 annual cases; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9514333/).

Furthermore, while popularized in media, it's actually an infrequently-eaten meal, either in sushi or sashimi form, being consumed on average only once per month; while the average Japanese consumes over 20 kilograms of fish annually, only about 14% of catches go towards fresh preparation, and most of that isn't even intended for sashimi or sushi preparation (https://www.nippon.com/en/guide-to-japan/g02239/), and the amount has been dropping precipitously, as in 2001 it was more than double the current annual amount (https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00767/). So, don't go thinking that it's a common dish, instead of the many other foods that are popular in Japan, like teppanyaki, simple grilled fish with miso, fish simmered with vegetables like buri daikon (Yellowtail and daikon), and many others.

Now, why did I bother to point out this? Because it shows that it's actually quite rare to eat raw fish, but the incidence rate is still quite a lot higher, orders of magnitude, plural, specifically; it's not something to take lightly.

 

[d_a_renoir]

They got so much stuff that Feru's too dumbfounded to be excited about the food LMAOO

 

[Louisthau]

My man : they were old people and you are a yougun' asking for food. What did you think would happen?

 

[lelelo_]

Oh man you naming it made me go check the first chapter, and I instantly remembered it; the first chapter did the same to me, so badly that I didn't even mark the series as dropped or anything, I just never went back to it again.

I'll give it another shot in this case, but she definitely was rude with her outburst of the food being disgusting, at the dinner table, and how shitty the preparation of food was for an otherwise advanced civilization immediately gave the "My food is superior" vibe that the other girl had, even about how picky she was about the water for tea.

EDIT: Yeah, nope. Got as far as Chapter 3 before the "My food is superior" BS just got to be too much. If they find tomato pasta as good as we do, there's no fucking way they're going to make a drink that tastes like fucking grapefruit and natto and think it's tasty. Similarly, soup made with just salt and the natural flavours of the ingredients can taste really good, and the way they prepared the meat just seemed like an obvious "barbarian preparation methods, they don't properly prepare the meat (bet it isn't even drained of blood)" BS. It works in Isekai Ryouridou because they actually do delve into the socioeconomic politics that keeps the tribes in such a state, but they still have good food and cuisine concepts both among the tribes and in the city, even before he starts introducing novel (to them) preparation methods, often based around some dish of theirs that gives him inspiration (this is the key point: there it is presented as transformative, rather than native ignorance of flavours and similar).

Hmm I remember reading it and only there since I ran out of slow life isekai. Had to reread the first chap again, but isn't it just a matter of having the wrong way to prep/cook stuff? Not necessarily japanese food is better.

But yeah, I agree with your point that no way the entire civilization's food can be so much worse than MC with same ingredients, that would mean nobody care about food quality, but clearly it shouldn't be the case if they have chef (it's their job!).
It would be a logical error in world building. But I guess author need a way to make MC shine thus the premise that nobody can cook good food...

 

[wugglesx]

i wouldnt be surprised if half of what he eats is deadly to humans and he just doesnt realize anymore, like feru's 'spicy' fish.

lmao he's shocked they're giving him so much stuff, like dude you guys literally just saved the town WITHOUT EVEN USING A BOAT, you need to be glad they're charging you at all, if they hadnt been doing so bad he'd probably have been default given like 80-90% of the hunt.

 

[Cloriane]

The people are so kind bro