Toukyou KINOKO: Sekai Ranking 1-i no Komyu-ryoku Saijaku JK - Ch. 10 - Understood

[WatermelonPlease]

Next chapter prediction: Kino is gonna break free and draw blood herself to feed whatever it is and summon it, then goes on about how rare and precious the summon and kills to eat and share with everyone.

And then she starts a new cult

 

[DrunkinDonut]

What's breaks disbelief isn't that Kino is this stupid - because people are - but that someone that stupid isn't already part of a crime gang, a cult, or both.

Like, someone this fucking dense is exactly the sort of idiot that becomes a Flat Earther.

Also, the cultists are idiots for not thinking of demanding that their intruder prove her identity by calling up her status. Because it really is that easy, they don't have to be guessing.

The way the story has been introduced, their family hasn't even been in the area for around a week? She hasn't been around long enough to be tricked into a Monster Based Gang. Chapter 2, explains that was her 1st day in class. And at the very least, her little sister has enough brains to tell her to stop if she thinks she's doing something bad.


And for everyone complaining about Kino in front of the cult, she's totally panicking and not even noticing anyone else. She hasn't spoken to anyone other than family for 10+ years. Even assuming extended relatives, she's exceedingly shy. She couldn't even return the toy to the break dancing child in Chapter 1, without panicking. The only way her mind is working in this instance is to just tunnel focus on singular people, so she isn't noticing anybody. That monster they're trying to awaken? She doesn't even consider it a danger, she hunted S-Ranks to extinction.

 

[AsteroidCreator99]

I'm crying because this shit is so ass

 

[AzrefReza]

She went full ******. You never go full ******. You know the quote..

If you know the quote then just write it, bro.

I think Kinoko doesn't realize what is going on because she underestimates herself all the time, she doesn't realize how truly strong she is, and she has likely been too strong for weapons in ages, so she probably thinks they are just playing around.

After all, if they really wanted to kill her or hurt her, it would hurt...or they wouldn't use such fragile weapons, she has become so strong that murder attempts genuinely don't register as murder attempts.

This. You wouldn’t acknowledge an ant trying to kill you as attempted murder.

 

[Dust_pile]

Thanks for the chapter!

no matter how stupid you are surely different people trying their hardest to kill you would be something you register
I really hope this stupid part ends asap, this scene is unbearably annoying for me

ty for the tl

I don't think Kinoko realizes that they are trying to murder her. In her mind they are just trying to water a plant with blood, a totally normal activity where she is from, and are doing their best to draw blood from her (she probably thinks that this organisation has hired them to draw blood from them, so this is the work she is supposed to do) and she just accidentally keeps breaking company equipment.

What's breaks disbelief isn't that Kino is this stupid - because people are - but that someone that stupid isn't already part of a crime gang, a cult, or both.

Like, someone this fucking dense is exactly the sort of idiot that becomes a Flat Earther.

Also, the cultists are idiots for not thinking of demanding that their intruder prove her identity by calling up her status. Because it really is that easy, they don't have to be guessing.

Kinoko is extremely antisocial and was literally unable to talk to anyone until like a week ago. She also hasn't lived here long enough yet.

It's a comedy insofar as the main character is invincible and superpowered, but is oblivious to this and is also a complete moron.

The setting she's in is very much not a comedy. Civilization is in active danger, people have already died on-screen, and every other character is acting to ends that indicate real peril and drama.
The single exclusion is Kinoko, and all of the comedic elements are built around maintaining her idiocy and naivety at all costs.

And we even have an actual stated goal from the main character herself - she wants to move beyond the very thing that is injecting any sense of comedy into the series at all. So what happens once that occurs? Or, is it allowed to never occur, and the world increasingly bends itself around keeping Kinoko in the dark, no matter how outlandish or contrived the rest of the characters and the setting itself have to behave to make that happen?

Usoyama should absolutely spill the beans to Kinoko after this, whatever selfish reasons she had for not doing so before. Her own life was put in mortal peril because Kinoko's a moron and is incapable of reading the situation before her, however overt it maybe should appear. If she doesn't say anything, then she's implying that the same situation can arise again because that's less important than Kinoko gaining awareness of herself and her situation.
Kinoko's sister is also complicit, and if she finds out what Kinoko was wrapped up in, that other people died, and still says nothing - then that's another point in the "the world's logic is thrown out in favor of keeping the protagonist's gimmick intact" category.

That absurdity can work, but it works were the stakes aren't so final for the world at large. Looney Tunes gets away with tons of violence because no one perma-dies and everything resets next episode. That sort of comedy doesn't work where the setting can be destroyed and you can just have the cast walk off being eaten or having a building dropped on them.

This formula can work, as demonstrated by one punch man. I think it's just that the stakes are currently to low and the reader isn't invested enough yet to have a dragged out arc like this. They should have probably waited untill chapter 10 or so to start this arc.

 

[UdenEmpati]

This formula can work, as demonstrated by one punch man. I think it's just that the stakes are currently to low and the reader isn't invested enough yet to have a dragged out arc like this. They should have probably waited untill chapter 10 or so to start this arc.

i don't recall Saitama being this antithetical to operating in a society, though. He has his moments, sure, but he knows he's strong and has some amount of situational awareness when dealing with a crisis or with others.

This takes the gimmick and turns it up to 12, seemingly.

And while you could be correct about the author simply jumping the gun on when they introduced this arc, the degree of Kinoko's "issues" mean that, for them to persist and carry the gag, everyone around her will have to keep secrets - from her and from the world at large, and will have to twist their words and actions in favor of maintaining her idiocy, even if doing so would countermand their usual behavior.

Because look at how many witnesses there were to this. And so when Usoyama's uncle shows up, do they just capture everyone, and sequester all information from the rest of the government and the public at large?
Usoyama wanted to keep this a secret so she could milk Kinoko for training and advice. Doing that has nearly gotten her killed. Is she going to decide others need to know, because Kinoko's obliviousness is a clear danger to those around her? And I ask the same of the sister, once she's made aware of what transpired.

And the more people who find out and bend themselves around perpetuating this gimmick, the harder it will be to care about any of the proposed stakes that we've been presented, including Kinoko's own stated goal of overcoming her social anxiety.

 

[tremor3258]

I'm really Nadeshiko in this one. I hope this is going somewhere soon, the joke is thin.

 

[wanfai]

It's a comedy insofar as the main character is invincible and superpowered, but is oblivious to this and is also a complete moron.

The setting she's in is very much not a comedy. Civilization is in active danger, people have already died on-screen, and every other character is acting to ends that indicate real peril and drama.
The single exclusion is Kinoko, and all of the comedic elements are built around maintaining her idiocy and naivety at all costs.

And we even have an actual stated goal from the main character herself - she wants to move beyond the very thing that is injecting any sense of comedy into the series at all. So what happens once that occurs? Or, is it allowed to never occur, and the world increasingly bends itself around keeping Kinoko in the dark, no matter how outlandish or contrived the rest of the characters and the setting itself have to behave to make that happen?

Usoyama should absolutely spill the beans to Kinoko after this, whatever selfish reasons she had for not doing so before. Her own life was put in mortal peril because Kinoko's a moron and is incapable of reading the situation before her, however overt it maybe should appear. If she doesn't say anything, then she's implying that the same situation can arise again because that's less important than Kinoko gaining awareness of herself and her situation.
Kinoko's sister is also complicit, and if she finds out what Kinoko was wrapped up in, that other people died, and still says nothing - then that's another point in the "the world's logic is thrown out in favor of keeping the protagonist's gimmick intact" category.

That absurdity can work, but it works were the stakes aren't so final for the world at large. Looney Tunes gets away with tons of violence because no one perma-dies and everything resets next episode. That sort of comedy doesn't work where the setting can be destroyed and you can't* just have the cast walk off being eaten or having a building dropped on them.

I mean, you’re right. It’s bad writing. Yes the setting doesn’t allow for it. Which is why it’s also a bad story. A decent comedy, but definitely bad writing and plot.

Props to TL group for working on this, im not criticizing your work, but as far as the story goes this is definitely a situation where the setting and the plotline is mismatched fully. Which is also why this only works as a comedy. The chapter she gets ‘common sense’ is the chapter when the story gets a countdown for when the story will end, or should end at least. Once she gets common sense this story becomes no different from every other overpowered MC in fantasy tokyo, and theres a couple of those.

 

[dcdfvr]

You and me both Nadeshiko, as well as alot of other people

 

[Dust_pile]

i don't recall Saitama being this antithetical to operating in a society, though. He has his moments, sure, but he knows he's strong and has some amount of situational awareness when dealing with a crisis or with others.

This takes the gimmick and turns it up to 12, seemingly.

And while you could be correct about the author simply jumping the gun on when they introduced this arc, the degree of Kinoko's "issues" mean that, for them to persist and carry the gag, everyone around her will have to keep secrets - from her and from the world at large, and will have to twist their words and actions in favor of maintaining her idiocy, even if doing so would countermand their usual behavior.

Because look at how many witnesses there were to this. And so when Usoyama's uncle shows up, do they just capture everyone, and sequester all information from the rest of the government and the public at large?
Usoyama wanted to keep this a secret so she could milk Kinoko for training and advice. Doing that has nearly gotten her killed. Is she going to decide others need to know, because Kinoko's obliviousness is a clear danger to those around her? And I ask the same of the sister, once she's made aware of what transpired.

And the more people who find out and bend themselves around perpetuating this gimmick, the harder it will be to care about any of the proposed stakes that we've been presented, including Kinoko's own stated goal of overcoming her social anxiety.

I was mostly referring to the way the entire world is aero but the protagonist being a gag character that turns the world comical.

You are right in that Kinoko is the Aspects that turn Saitama into a comical character turned way up (Saitama is somewhat oblivious and he is slightly antisocial (living in an abandoned part of the city, getting annoyed with everyone wanting to hangout at his place) but he doesn't have a problem with interacting with people. As you said this does cause problems, as her amount of obliviousness and shyness is not maintainable in the long run.