@dojinshi You asked me what she can do, offered two things yourself, and then dismissed them because they hypothetically could maybe go wrong. Both of those are way better than just taking shit. Even if CPS doesn't find the mom to be at fault (doubtful, considering the responsibilities she's making her kid shoulder), it's not like things can get much worse for her. And you're assuming people will just magically find her if she's listed as a missing child. It is not even remotely difficult to run away as a child without being found. She could also just tell her mom off. If her mom backs off it's a win and if her mom escalates the CPS call gets a whole lot more viable. There are tons of ways to approach this situation. Taking shit is not one, and most adults should know better.
Tsuma, Shougakusei ni Naru. - Vol. 2 Ch. 9
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her mom's intentions are not wrong. it's just that the way she handled it, makes her psycho.
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I don't see anything abnormal here. Wrong? Perhaps, but not out of the norm. Does everyone here come from a household full of perfect, always calm, patient parents who are never pre-annoyed by work and other life problems and are never lacking in one or two important life habits? Sounds unrealistic, but good for you if you do I guess.
Just because your parents get pissed off from time to time doesn't make them abusive. It simply makes them well...pissed off. The slippery slope is when a parent strikes their child with the intention of "beating sense in them" or whatever nonsense, and then we start going down a rabbit hole about culture difference yadda yadda blah blah, but the fact is that the didn't do that with her. The dresser bit and shoving her out of the way was sort of over the top but Takae appears not to have taken so much as a scratch so I'm guessing the mother was watching her strength.
So yeah, still not seeing "abuse".
Judging by the mother's phrasing Takae must've been lying (and getting caught from time to time) for some time now and it's only conveniently being shown to escalate now. It looks like a fatherless household too, whom I'm guessing wasn't very good with money and secrets either.
Being forced to relive a childhood in a household that would've currently resembled what she left behind is probably giving Takae a two-way guilty conscience. Guilty of leaving her previous family behind, and guilty that she is running from her own problems by visiting them. She's probably concerned about her new mother too. Regardless of what the new mother is like now, Takae probably used to live in a happy household and empathizes with a house gone to ruin because "someone left", whether it be through death or otherwise.
This is not as simple as some readers are making it out to be IMHO. What needs to be expanded on is whether this mother is coping through unhealthy methods or not. The unclean household is one strike, but just barely. Takae's new mother is probably a single parent, maybe she falls behind sometimes. *shrug* Also I've seen happy households when I was growing up where houses looked like a pigpen compared to mine. It does not necessarily equate to abuse, that's just bad teaching. Not the same thing.
Just because your parents get pissed off from time to time doesn't make them abusive. It simply makes them well...pissed off. The slippery slope is when a parent strikes their child with the intention of "beating sense in them" or whatever nonsense, and then we start going down a rabbit hole about culture difference yadda yadda blah blah, but the fact is that the didn't do that with her. The dresser bit and shoving her out of the way was sort of over the top but Takae appears not to have taken so much as a scratch so I'm guessing the mother was watching her strength.
So yeah, still not seeing "abuse".
Judging by the mother's phrasing Takae must've been lying (and getting caught from time to time) for some time now and it's only conveniently being shown to escalate now. It looks like a fatherless household too, whom I'm guessing wasn't very good with money and secrets either.
Being forced to relive a childhood in a household that would've currently resembled what she left behind is probably giving Takae a two-way guilty conscience. Guilty of leaving her previous family behind, and guilty that she is running from her own problems by visiting them. She's probably concerned about her new mother too. Regardless of what the new mother is like now, Takae probably used to live in a happy household and empathizes with a house gone to ruin because "someone left", whether it be through death or otherwise.
This is not as simple as some readers are making it out to be IMHO. What needs to be expanded on is whether this mother is coping through unhealthy methods or not. The unclean household is one strike, but just barely. Takae's new mother is probably a single parent, maybe she falls behind sometimes. *shrug* Also I've seen happy households when I was growing up where houses looked like a pigpen compared to mine. It does not necessarily equate to abuse, that's just bad teaching. Not the same thing.
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NO! NO! STOOOOOP!!!
GO BACK TO THE FLUFF~
GO BACK TO THE FLUFF~
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If you didn't got the hints, her new family is : the husband is avoiding coming home, the mother is taking out her frustration on her daughter because she fearsthat her husband is cheating on her. That's why she repeat many times "you always lies to me" or "You always deceive me". Thoses words were not toward her daughter but her husband who probably is really cheating on her since he is never coming home (see the sloppy house).
If you didn't got the hints, her new family is : the husband is avoiding coming home, the mother is taking out her frustration on her daughter because she fearsthat her husband is cheating on her. That's why she repeat many times "you always lies to me" or "You always deceive me". Thoses words were not toward her daughter but her husband who probably is really cheating on her since he is never coming home (see the sloppy house).
Please no! The thought of them get separated again is too much for the husband to handle, I'm sure of it. When you got your loved one taken away from you for the first time, it must have been devastating, but for a second time, don't think his heart can take it.
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@Aslinn you misread (or misinterpreted) a lot of what I wrote, to the point where it's like you're replying to someone else.
Fortunately it looks like you're at least trying to do the same thing as me, trying to make a guess as to what her family situation is based on hints. In your case, you think the husband is cheating. In my case I think she is divorced to begin with and her former husband was a liar and a pickpocket(metaphorically).
Fortunately it looks like you're at least trying to do the same thing as me, trying to make a guess as to what her family situation is based on hints. In your case, you think the husband is cheating. In my case I think she is divorced to begin with and her former husband was a liar and a pickpocket(metaphorically).
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People are actually defending the mother as her behavior being normal... Fucking hell...
I'm sure the mangaka added details like the house being a dirty disaster, empty wine/alcohol bottles and her taking money from her daughter saving left over change and pushing her out of the way to look for more was done to really emphasize that normal and loving family home.
Part of me wonders how obvious the mangaka could go with "this is supposed to be bad" before people stop defending things. Like, so what if the mother was getting a train run on her by a bunch of dudes on the kitchen table and having her daughter film it? Or she's cutting and packaging cocaine? She's an independent woman, an entrepreneur trying to provide for her daughter the best she can. Hacking up bodies of yakuza assassination targets to dispose of the evidence? She just cares about the cleanliness of her community and is trying to make the world a better place for her daughter. Obviously.
I'm sure the mangaka added details like the house being a dirty disaster, empty wine/alcohol bottles and her taking money from her daughter saving left over change and pushing her out of the way to look for more was done to really emphasize that normal and loving family home.
Part of me wonders how obvious the mangaka could go with "this is supposed to be bad" before people stop defending things. Like, so what if the mother was getting a train run on her by a bunch of dudes on the kitchen table and having her daughter film it? Or she's cutting and packaging cocaine? She's an independent woman, an entrepreneur trying to provide for her daughter the best she can. Hacking up bodies of yakuza assassination targets to dispose of the evidence? She just cares about the cleanliness of her community and is trying to make the world a better place for her daughter. Obviously.
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She doesn't need to beat her up to be considered abusive... Yes finding your child leaving the house without telling you would make parents upset and even angry (our of concern). I don't, however, see any signs of her mother yelling at her out of concern. She leaves her child in a filthy house alone, the alcohol bottles, giving her only enough money for food. Not to mention ransacking her child's room and pushing Takae in the process (showing no remorse or concern for pushing the poor girl) and then threatening her again.
The way I see it is she's angry cuz Takae missing or getting injured or whatever would spell trouble for her, and that she used her money for something other than what was intended (food)
Also, if she did call child protection and they are as ineffective as someone said, then it really could worsen her situation. She might be beaten or confined at home, in the case that her mom really isn't just a "tired single mom concerned for her child"
The way I see it is she's angry cuz Takae missing or getting injured or whatever would spell trouble for her, and that she used her money for something other than what was intended (food)
Also, if she did call child protection and they are as ineffective as someone said, then it really could worsen her situation. She might be beaten or confined at home, in the case that her mom really isn't just a "tired single mom concerned for her child"
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I really like @hina_sw way of seeing it. How physical abuse is not the only kind to just be considered abuse because there is also mental abuse. I think the situation has not escalated enough(to call CPS) but it is there because from the last chapter we saw that she is scared of her mom or maybe she knew she screwed up when she saw her shoes beneath the steps to the house.
I think the only thing that interests me right now is the mother's boyfriend or maybe husband, I wonder how he treats her...
04/27/2020
I think the only thing that interests me right now is the mother's boyfriend or maybe husband, I wonder how he treats her...
04/27/2020
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This does look cruel on paper, but throughout Asia this is actually pretty common
It's not like the child was called something like "Useless/Piece of sh**/Burden/etc"
Though I'm only stating this from my own experience (which is pretty similar though not exactly the same), so maybe the author just wanted an aggressive conflict to happen because of a third-party character though I'm not too sure cause I'm just stating out my thoughts on it
Takae's friend who has a crush on her is a different kind of conflict, it's neither passive or aggressive but still provides enough plot for it to become an existing conflict for her
It's not like the child was called something like "Useless/Piece of sh**/Burden/etc"
Though I'm only stating this from my own experience (which is pretty similar though not exactly the same), so maybe the author just wanted an aggressive conflict to happen because of a third-party character though I'm not too sure cause I'm just stating out my thoughts on it
Takae's friend who has a crush on her is a different kind of conflict, it's neither passive or aggressive but still provides enough plot for it to become an existing conflict for her
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eh, I don't like that they gave her a shitty mom, only makes it easier to get rid of her
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The mom may have overreacted, but considering she lied and is using money to do other things, I really cant say the mom is completely wrong, I would be angry my child said it was going to stay at home and when come home it isn't there.
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