Tsumi to Batsu no Spica - Ch. 16 - Nameless Malice (5)

[kitsushouten]

well. i certainly don’t know how he’s going to pull this off. brain scrambled and incontinent? good luck bud.

 

[Darthvader69420]

Honestly like this arc way more then the arc with the detective in it. That one felt like it pulled the idol being the killer from its ass. This arc is more interesting and coherent.

 

[stilgar]

I hope that ain't a motorized wheelchair the old dude is in or else he is gonna drag that person through the halls

 

[BP]

GIVE IT UP SPICA! THE GOAT ALREADY IS IN THE HALL OF FAME! NOTHING YOU CAN DO CAN TARNISH HIS LEGACY!

 

[Nivek]

Wonder what's triggering him on the last page?

phone, the wheel was a bait, but remember the starting chapter, the father was also talking to the phone, the phone seems something he thing make his father what he did

 

[Nivek]

Manga psychology: 'survivors of trauma don't always become serial killers... Sometimes they become dictators!'

I think is a example how people arrange their minds for experience, in a way Spica misbutton philosophy also Align with the social control and order of dictators

 

[Nivek]

Honestly like this arc way more then the arc with the detective in it. That one felt like it pulled the idol being the killer from its ass. This arc is more interesting and coherent.

I think was the framing, the previous arc did was making the Idol a big thing but we got fooled as we know idol tends to be young so she would be a victim or someone related to the next arc, not the killer of the family, so yeah a stech but one pausable

 

[EchoGirl]

This kid thinking Ted Bundy is a serial killer expert when mf got caught. The real one experts are the ones never caught..... Mangaka should look more into Pedro Lopez

lol there are some interesting podcasts but other than like the zodiac killer I guess other serial killers wouldn’t do enough to get “famous but not caught” or maybe back in the day there’d be ppl that’d be considered serial killers now but bc of the culture /war or so in certain places they were allowed to do what they want if not some high ranking noble person that personally liked executing ppl

I guess volunteers for a senior center don’t necessarily get background checks unless it’s like community service but idk if they would let criminals do so but other than timing it so that the relatives don’t see her I’d think his family would raise an eyebrow or so but I guess it’s not that spica was necessarily suspicious seeming before

Interesting to see Chuuni boy back I half expected a twist of him to be one of the grandparents but I also would think spica would “move on” at some point to another school bc even if it’s a repeat of the first arc I can imagine there being another school staff serial killer

Wonder what's triggering him on the last page?

It’s probably the phone cord, I remember the wife saying something like “our phone is so old we should get a new one”/something like “only we and ur mothers house still has such an old phone”

 

[MondSemmel]

Thanks for the chapter!

Typos & edit suggestions: @NotsoFps

• p12 Catching murderers who escaped... justice and punishing them -> Catching murderers who escaped justice... and punishing them

 

[EchoGirl]

I do wonder if we'll get some 'origin story'/flashback into spica's past, either she had her parents murdered/the mind reading thing is genetic, maybe they were the first 'misbuttons' she corrected XP

 

[MondSemmel]

I don't quite think so. Spica doesn't kill to make the world better, she kills because feels satisfaction from it. Sure it might be from "justice" as she says, but this case specifically shows that she isn't doing it to stop people from killing. If she does absolutely nothing, the old man won't be killing anyone anymore, not with his dementia. Instead she kills to feel that feeling when she kills a murderer.

The English title of this series is "Spice of Sin and Punishment". For Spica, punishing unsolved crimes is the entire point. She doesn't consider herself to be a saint, either, and even gave the ill police detective the chance to report her.

That said, regarding her own vigilantism, she explains at the end of the first case that she has a three-strikes rule for targets she decides to kill, and presumably not every one of her potential targets will actually fulfill that condition. For instance, it seems like she might have possibly spared both the teacher and the idol if their final thoughts had been repentant instead of murderous.

how does her ability works actually? does she only needs 1 touch and voila, she receives all the memories of whom she touches, or what exactly? am i missing something here??

Yes, that seems about it; at least in c3, she says one touch was enough to discover everything about the teacher's past, incl. the murder from 10 years ago. But this doesn't work against the current dementia patient whose memories aren't all there anymore.

 

[Pedro_Alcantara]

Well, Spica herself is also a serial killer and what the guy said also fit her.

But what is her pattern? The little letters of confession? If preventive measures are patterns, then self defenders,vigilantes and bounty hunters were all serial killers too.
If anything, so far spica is a punisher type vigilante

I don't quite think so. Spica doesn't kill to make the world better, she kills because feels satisfaction from it.

Satisfaction for the killing itself? Dosent look like.
Sathisfied for "sending murderers to hell" sounds about right, specially in this chapter, looks like she feels as if killing an innocent if the old men dosent remember, so she definitely has satisfaction for taking out murderers, otherwise, if it was for justice alone, she should just get the old men done regardless, his dementia dosent change his murders.

 

[EchoGirl]

The English title of this series is "Spice of Sin and Punishment". For Spica, punishing unsolved crimes is the entire point. She doesn't consider herself to be a saint, either, and even gave the ill police detective the chance to report her.

That said, regarding her own vigilantism, she explains at the end of the first case that she has a three-strikes rule for targets she decides to kill, and presumably not every one of her potential targets will actually fulfill that condition. For instance, it seems like she might have possibly spared both the teacher and the idol if their final thoughts had been repentant instead of murderous.

Yes, that seems about it; at least in c3, she says one touch was enough to discover everything about the teacher's past, incl. the murder from 10 years ago. But this doesn't work against the current dementia patient whose memories aren't all there anymore.

I think she did look into it a bit before or so or maybe manipulated the situation but maybe it was on the surface of his mind if he was reminded of the first victim/previous bullied girl or so, but i guess it's good there's a limit to her power instead of reading a person's entire life from a touch

 

[pink_rabbit]

spoken like a true psycho

Fucking wish man. I cry when I accidentally step on my cat's paws or any animal hurt.

lol there are some interesting podcasts but other than like the zodiac killer I guess other serial killers wouldn’t do enough to get “famous but not caught” or maybe back in the day there’d be ppl that’d be considered serial killers now but bc of the culture /war or so in certain places they were allowed to do what they want if not some high ranking noble person that personally liked executing ppl

You're not wrong about culture/war. If you look up serial killers on wikipedia then it will say Elizabeth Bathory on the list when there are other political figures out there that should be on it too.

I do watch a lot of serial killer podcasts. Some are more interesting than others. However, the reason why I suggest Pedro Lopez is because he was never caught in the end. He was released yet no one knows where he is....

 

[FlorianGran]

This kid thinking Ted Bundy is a serial killer expert when mf got caught. The real one experts are the ones never caught..... Mangaka should look more into Pedro Lopez

I think it's a reference to how Ted Bundy offered insight that helped to catch another serial killer (The Green River Killer)

 

[BlazingWaters]

Honestly like this arc way more then the arc with the detective in it. That one felt like it pulled the idol being the killer from its ass. This arc is more interesting and coherent.

it's mainly cause we're getting an actual POV of the subject(s) again much like the teacher and tohakari chapters, instead of a general overview shown or explained by Spica herself. We didn't really know much about the detective or even the idol aside from the fact that one was a regretful person stuck in the past for something he couldn't be able to do, and the other was someone who was only mentioned as a background element until it was revealed she was the perp with no buildup. Even the husband from that same arc managed to get some depth by being a legitimate family man that was that regressed to a seclusive rut.

 

[EchoGirl]

Fucking wish man. I cry when I accidentally step on my cat's paws or any animal hurt.


You're not wrong about culture/war. If you look up serial killers on wikipedia then it will say Elizabeth Bathory on the list when there are other political figures out there that should be on it too.

I do watch a lot of serial killer podcasts. Some are more interesting than others. However, the reason why I suggest Pedro Lopez is because he was never caught in the end. He was released yet no one knows where he is....

I suppose being a soldier is diff, ppl do talk about war crimes after all

That said, idk if ppl would be that aware bc science didn’t rly get accepted in the religious times, but I wouldn’t put it past someone to spread a plague on purpose like how there were serial killer “nurses” mercy killing ppl

At least the only thing supernatural about this is Spica herself , imagine if she had to confront a vamp (tho that said you could argue that’s just survival but other than being found out or needing a full grown human each time, having living blood bags for multiple feeds is more effective but depends on the lore)

 

[syncswim]

Kind of weird that Spica and chuuni boy would still be in the same class considering their homeroom teacher and classmate were involved in a "murder suicide" not that long ago.

 

[RamenRider]

Criminal profiles for serial killers are (ironically?) survivorship bias at best. Even in modern times with advanced forensics only about 50% of murders are solved. Possibly even due to modern forensics (and the civil rights movement) because the cops can’t just frame a random person as easily anymore. The ones we catch are the ones who get arrogant enough to think they’ll not get caught, get sloppy, have a pathological need to, or are just unlucky.

 

[tiniestkid]

Wonder what's triggering him on the last page?

Maybe it was the old style phone? On page 14 of Ch. 13 there's a weirdly specific exchange about about their old phone. It's not a great explanation but tbh I'm just grasping at straws